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Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Walks Back Claim His Campaign Is Unsettling Global Markets
Source: ABC News
By MARYALICE PARKS
Jan 24, 2016, 10:43 AM ET
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders walked back his previous comments about the successful impact of his campaign in unsettling global financial markets on ABCs "This Week" Sunday.
"I fully admit to having a big ego, like many other politicians, but the idea that Bernie Sanders candidacy because it has growing support all over this country is unsettling world markets is absolutely absurd," Sanders told "This Week" co-host Martha Raddatz.
Sanders campaign has focused largely on the size and power of large corporate banks and Sunday he said he was pleased it was getting the attention of Wall Street.
"Wall Streets greed and recklessness and illegal behavior drove this economy into the worst depression since the Great Depression," he said. "I believe that we have to break up the major financial institutions. We have to reestablish Glass Steagall. That we are now gaining the attention of Wall Street tells me that our campaign is doing very well."
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draa
(975 posts)A man who is no threat, and believe me we've heard that a million times so far, is causing markets to drop. You have to love the propaganda people use. Creative but laughable.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Thru? We are seeing this a lot.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)This is stupid, that headline is spin
riversedge
(70,242 posts)http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-walks-back-claim-campaign-unsettling-global/story?id=36471229
..............While campaigning in eastern Iowa on Saturday, the Vermont senator paraphrased an interview in a Wall Street Journal article several times with pride, drawing applause from the crowd, that said his viable candidacy was a reason markets have been unsettled.
Stephen Schwarzman who is the CEO of Blackstone, one of the major financial institutions in this country, says that markets are unsettled because of geopolitical risks, the slowdown in China and because Bernie Sanders is a viable candidate, Sanders told a crowd of supporters in Davenport, Iowa. It appears that we have Wall Street a little bit nervous and that's a good thing. And then we got the entire political establishment heading to Iowa this week. And it seems to me that some of my friends in the political establishment are afraid.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)The CEO of Blackstone was acting a little bit nervous, hence the comment. And besides that even Sander's comment made with humor is far from the "paraphrased" statement that the headline claims it was no matter how you view it. I repeat this is spin, and stupid.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)were unsettled for 3 reasons. One of them was him. Now on This Week, he's completely walking that back. Read his own quotes.
This is the kind of stuff he's gotten away with, and he gets very hostile when challenged. He's walked back many of his gaseous applause lines when questioned, which has been frequent lately. That's why people say he hasn't been properly vetted. His comments don't hold up under pushback.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)It's impossible. Stephen Scwarzman said this and Bernie responded that Wall St. is nervous because his campaign is going so well.
Why is that so hard for people to grasp?
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Totally. It was on This Week, so it's obvious who said what, and when, and why. When he got pushback, he dropped his campaign bragging and walked back his self-promotion.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)it's either that or carbon monoxide poisoning...kookoo for cocoa puffs.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Got it.
He wanted to be a badass at his rally so he quoted from the article about his badness. Then when he's later confronted, he backs down totally. That's a weathervane all right.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)The RWers and corporate hacks are so scared of him--of course he's gonna beat his chest and laugh at them! Are you challenged in some way? Never mind, don't answer that. I have if all figured out.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)That was the point of his walking back his comments. He does that a lot when challenged, something that has been very obvious.
OH, and I have you all figured out too. I'm superior that way myself, donchaknow.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Idiocy and desperation like this should be on prominent display for all to see. Thanks again!
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)And claims of superiority. LOTS of that!
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)just better at politics than them. They can't find a clear path to victory around that reality, so they triangulate and obfuscate.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)Love these circular arguments that attributes a quote to the person reporting said quite.
Can't wait for the participants of this mind-bending exercise try to explain this new superpower they think Bernie has acquired.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Does not exist.
dogman
(6,073 posts)There is nothing to walk back. Surprise, surprise, editorial spin. He cited a Wall Street bankster blaming him for turmoil and said it was absurd. Hardly a claim or a walk back, just ABC.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)world markets.
dogman
(6,073 posts)He reported to them what the establishment was claiming. He said it is absurd.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)they know its bullshit. But, what else do they have? nothing
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)at about the 3:10 min mark. Sanders never made any such statement, ipso facto, there is no walking back going on except in the alternate universe of Camp Weathervane.
Autumn
(45,105 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Autumn
(45,105 posts)1. Bernie didn't say it.
2.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)... perhaps you can explain how one "walks back" a claim made by someone else? Or are we now responsible to cover for the idiocy of every fucking yahoo that says something ridiculous?
riversedge
(70,242 posts)....
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-walks-back-claim-campaign-unsettling-global/story?id=36471229
..............While campaigning in eastern Iowa on Saturday, the Vermont senator paraphrased an interview in a Wall Street Journal article several times with pride, drawing applause from the crowd, that said his viable candidacy was a reason markets have been unsettled.
Stephen Schwarzman who is the CEO of Blackstone, one of the major financial institutions in this country, says that markets are unsettled because of geopolitical risks, the slowdown in China and because Bernie Sanders is a viable candidate, Sanders told a crowd of supporters in Davenport, Iowa. It appears that we have Wall Street a little bit nervous and that's a good thing. And then we got the entire political establishment heading to Iowa this week. And it seems to me that some of my friends in the political establishment are afraid.
dogman
(6,073 posts)What, quoted above, is not true? Did Schwarzman not say that? Is he not part of the Wall Street establishment? Is saying Schwarzman was absurd really a walk back? ABC is the part of the political establishment.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)God these people are scum.
On youtube: Blackstone CEO: Bernie Sanders Scares the Markets
riversedge
(70,242 posts)http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-walks-back-claim-campaign-unsettling-global/story?id=36471229
..............While campaigning in eastern Iowa on Saturday, the Vermont senator paraphrased an interview in a Wall Street Journal article several times with pride, drawing applause from the crowd, that said his viable candidacy was a reason markets have been unsettled.
Stephen Schwarzman who is the CEO of Blackstone, one of the major financial institutions in this country, says that markets are unsettled because of geopolitical risks, the slowdown in China and because Bernie Sanders is a viable candidate, Sanders told a crowd of supporters in Davenport, Iowa. It appears that we have Wall Street a little bit nervous and that's a good thing. And then we got the entire political establishment heading to Iowa this week. And it seems to me that some of my friends in the political establishment are afraid.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)The headline is blatantly misleading. You can't walk back something you never said in the first place.
Please tell me you understand that much.
Kokonoe
(2,485 posts)said said something like, Bernie Sanders will end the world as we know it.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Walking back stupid statements
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)But keep the sleaze train running why dontcha?
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Does not exist.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)statements, since some choose to be too obtuse to comprehend its meaning.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)attacked the leadership of PP. That is not ok. I get you and others thinks so, but I stand with the President of PP and all the outrageous RW attack of the last couple years.
Not to mention the diss as 'establishment' simply because they did not support Sanders, when Sanders is the ultimate participant in the establishment for the last three decades. So, he is simply wrong.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)is not because of their support of Hillary, but HOW THEY CAME to support Hillary. And given that the president of PP's daughter is working on the Clinton campaign, makes their endorsement extremely suspect. Just as the president of HRC, who decided without member input, was once a protogee of the Clintons. This is the establishment of which he speaks.
And if the leadership doesn't care what their members think, then yes it is okay to attack them.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)for addressing our concerns.
Response to ejbr (Reply #23)
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ejbr
(5,856 posts)you obtuse. Bernie's record on women's issues speak for itself. Does that answer your concern? Now back to ours
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Could be why Bernie only seems to care about 98% white Iowa and New Hampshire.
dogman
(6,073 posts)Looks like desperate times.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)For shame.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)that a campaign with an alarmingly huge groundswell of support for making sweeping economic changes could possibly cause Wall Streeters to talk.
ornotna
(10,803 posts)Nice try though, I'll give you a C for effort. At least you tried.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)this was a bullshit talking point from the rw wackos. scare mongering from the downtrodden 1%
Autumn
(45,105 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)NO SHIT. His ego is his No. 1 concern. He was either unwilling or unable to name any Wall Street execs he would prosecute so that tells you all you need to know. He can't answer how he would break up banks, but hey clap for Bernie! He is in favor of drones and is not anti-war. So many signs his campaign is all about his ego. I'm surprised so many fall for this.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)- Schwarzman said "markets are unsettled"
- Bernie said "Wall St{'s} nervous".
- Market is infrastructure, Walls St. is a culture/physical address of a market access point.
- Schwarzman has no proof, just knows that he and his friends are unsettled.
My conclusion, you're either gullible, you failed reading comprehension, or your claim is that markets are people.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)But I saw Bernie himself with his pandering explanation. What's your excuse?
Bottom line: Berni wanted to be a Badass in front of his supporters, so he used this article to brag on himself. Then when confronted on national TV, he denounced the article. Cant have it both ways.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)And when he is confronted with it on national TV he can laugh at it again. That you don't know the difference between a market and a hedge fund manager, means nothing to the validity of you or the OP's claim.
Ignorance must be bliss.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)pandering. Deal with it. Saying one thing to his crowds and something else when challenged. Your comments are bizarre.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)Fail. Try. Again.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Your comments are bizarre and obviously just a diversion to your true intent, which is to attack personally. Fail yourself.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)Good luck.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)insane. If I did that to you, my posts would get hidden. Must be nice!
You obviously didn't watch the show or read the article. It's obvious from your bizarre comments. Hint: your interpretations of it are the opposite of what happened in the article and BS's response in the show.
Fail yourself. You just latched on to this to insult me petsonally.
You should write Martha Raddatz and call her names, too. She is the one who boxed him with his own comment walk back.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Wow, your dedication to histrionics is admirable.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)now the 4th or 5th Bernie supporter to try this tactic. This is why it's hilarious that you claim superiority about "issues".
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Someone needs to tell him that he should be in Stage 5.
STAGE 5: Brazen invocation of right-wing attacks to marginalize and demonize, as polls prove the candidate is a credible threat (hes weak on terrorism, will surrender to ISIS, has crazy associations, and is a clone of Mao and Stalin).
If Bernie wins Iowa, then they move to Stage 7:
STAGE 7: Full-scale and unrestrained meltdown, panic, lashing-out, threats, recriminations, self-important foot-stomping, overt union with the Right, complete fury (I can no longer in good conscience support this party of misfits, terrorist-lovers, communists, and heathens).
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/21/the-seven-stages-of-establishment-backlash-corbynsanders-edition/
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)her what your post is really about:
LEAVE BERNIE ALONE!!!
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)we all have to pretend we don't know that it's just an excuse to badger people who don't worship Bernie oooh.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)"... the idea that Bernie Sanders candidacy because it has growing support all over this country is unsettling world markets is absolutely absurd."
He didn't something, something.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Actually, it's like this all over GDP today.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Never been good at distinguishing saturation from over-saturation. That's why I'm not allowed in the kitchen.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)I waited for it to be near the top again to post this. That is all. No more bumps from me - I gave my reasoned reply above already.