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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:49 PM Jan 2016

Bernie Sanders Walks Back Claim His Campaign Is Unsettling Global Markets

Source: ABC News

Bernie Sanders Walks Back Claim His Campaign Is Unsettling Global Markets

By MARYALICE PARKS
Jan 24, 2016, 10:43 AM ET

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders walked back his previous comments about the successful impact of his campaign in unsettling global financial markets on ABC’s "This Week" Sunday.

"I fully admit to having a big ego, like many other politicians, but the idea that Bernie Sanders’ candidacy because it has growing support all over this country is unsettling world markets is absolutely absurd," Sanders told "This Week" co-host Martha Raddatz.

Sanders’ campaign has focused largely on the size and power of large corporate banks and Sunday he said he was pleased it was getting the attention of Wall Street.

"Wall Street’s greed and recklessness and illegal behavior drove this economy into the worst depression since the Great Depression," he said. "I believe that we have to break up the major financial institutions. We have to reestablish Glass Steagall. That we are now gaining the attention of Wall Street tells me that our campaign is doing very well."

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Bernie Sanders Walks Back Claim His Campaign Is Unsettling Global Markets (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2016 OP
Hahaha, this is funny. draa Jan 2016 #1
Sanders makes statements then spends a lot of time walking them back. He speaks before thinking it seabeyond Jan 2016 #2
But I can't find where he made that claim, and i went to the link lookng fo it Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #5
You missed it--here it is from the article riversedge Jan 2016 #31
No, I saw that: “It appears that we have Wall Street a little bit nervous..." Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #39
Whoa, that was a total walkback. Sanders said the markets R B Garr Jan 2016 #44
Nobody can walk back something they never said farleftlib Jan 2016 #45
"You quoted with pride..." Then he walked it back. R B Garr Jan 2016 #46
Camp Weathervane must be suffering from hallucinations farleftlib Jan 2016 #47
Ah, so you didn't actually see the This Week show. R B Garr Jan 2016 #48
Yes i did farleftlib Jan 2016 #49
So now you finally admit he was pandering. R B Garr Jan 2016 #53
twisting and turning riversedge Jan 2016 #52
I can't thank you enough for keeping this kicked farleftlib Jan 2016 #54
Yup, twisting and turning and personal attacks. R B Garr Jan 2016 #71
Because they really want not to grasp it. They triangulate just like their candidate. Bernie is Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #82
New Title: Blackstone Group Piss Collective Pants, Claim Bernie's a Ventriloquist! Blue State Bandit Jan 2016 #59
Please show me this statament the OP title purports Sanders made. TIA Schema Thing Jan 2016 #7
The statement to which you are referring HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #11
If you would read it, you would know he did not say that. dogman Jan 2016 #13
If you read it--Sanders lead his audiance to believe his candidacy was affecting riversedge Jan 2016 #74
I've read it several times. dogman Jan 2016 #76
really? too funny. You people make 0 sense. litlbilly Jan 2016 #15
again, these people drop in, post total idiotic nonsense then leave. They dont hang around. litlbilly Jan 2016 #16
No, we're not. Watch the youtube vid in post #6 farleftlib Jan 2016 #18
you got a link to sander sayin that? Autumn Jan 2016 #22
You will never, ever get a reply to that. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #36
Yeah and I know the reasons why. Autumn Jan 2016 #40
You need to understand what happened here. It's clear you don't. Shocking. nt stillwaiting Jan 2016 #28
Walk this back. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #51
kick Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #3
Well Eugene... 99Forever Jan 2016 #4
But sanders repeated it....like it was true and his crowd applauded. riversedge Jan 2016 #35
No, Senator Sanders reported it because it was true. dogman Jan 2016 #41
Except Stephen Scwarzman made that claim - not Bernie farleftlib Jan 2016 #6
Yes, but Sanders paraphased Stephen's comments... riversedge Jan 2016 #33
So freaking what? farleftlib Jan 2016 #37
Bernie Sanders never made the claim, but refuted a Wall Street executive who Kokonoe Jan 2016 #8
Yes, He took credit for making Wall Street nervous. Quotes contained below. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #78
Man thats all Bernie has been doing lately workinclasszero Jan 2016 #9
Except he never said it farleftlib Jan 2016 #10
The statement to which you are referring HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #12
He clarified his PP. HRC, NARAL ejbr Jan 2016 #14
And even then, his clarification was not good enough. Instead of attacking all of PP, he merely seabeyond Jan 2016 #17
His criticism, ejbr Jan 2016 #20
Excuses for a man running in the Democratic party, attacking our progressive org. NOT good enough. seabeyond Jan 2016 #21
Thank you ejbr Jan 2016 #23
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #27
I will just color ejbr Jan 2016 #29
Here is a real view of Hillary Clinton re some of the groups you mentioned. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #30
Looks that way doesn't it? workinclasszero Jan 2016 #42
Yes because Bernie Sanders determines the dates for state primaries. dogman Jan 2016 #43
Yep, walking back a stupid statement made by a CEO. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #19
Nope, using said comment to make himself appear important. He gave CREDENCE to CEO's statement. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #79
It is not out of the realm of possibility Arkana Jan 2016 #34
Swing and a miss! ornotna Jan 2016 #38
Stephen Schwarzman's comment makes for a great stump speech, though! Fawke Em Jan 2016 #24
there was nothing to walk back restorefreedom Jan 2016 #25
You are all so funny. Bernie walked back what he never said. That's the ticket Autumn Jan 2016 #26
"I fully admit to having a big ego" R B Garr Jan 2016 #32
Your lack of reading comprehension disturbs me. Blue State Bandit Jan 2016 #55
Your lack of reading comprehension is also disturbing. R B Garr Jan 2016 #56
And he can denounce, and belittle that article till the cows come home. Blue State Bandit Jan 2016 #58
LMAO! What bizarre nonsense. He got caught R B Garr Jan 2016 #64
OP's about walking back, not pandering. Blue State Bandit Jan 2016 #65
You obviously didn't watch the show being discussed. R B Garr Jan 2016 #66
Watched the show, read the article and transcripts. Found no evidence that you are sane. Blue State Bandit Jan 2016 #67
So far your only input is to call me ignorant and R B Garr Jan 2016 #68
Still flogging this dead horse, huh? farleftlib Jan 2016 #69
LOL at the non-stop personal insults, which is R B Garr Jan 2016 #70
He's stuck in Stage 4. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #72
You are also welcome to spam Martha Raddatz and tell R B Garr Jan 2016 #73
Ooh! I know you are but what am I? I love those posts. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #60
Ooh, me too. Love the phony "worry" too where R B Garr Jan 2016 #61
Keep trying. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #62
ooh you too. R B Garr Jan 2016 #63
Thank you! (nt) NurseJackie Jan 2016 #80
“It appears that we have Wall Street a little bit nervous and that's a good thing." OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #50
Do the attacks in this thread seem even more sweat drenched and shrill than usual? Number23 Jan 2016 #57
I can't really tell. OilemFirchen Jan 2016 #75
Add it to the list Renew Deal Jan 2016 #77
The purpose of this OP is to keep bmping false spin from ABC to the top of the GD-P page Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #81

draa

(975 posts)
1. Hahaha, this is funny.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jan 2016

A man who is no threat, and believe me we've heard that a million times so far, is causing markets to drop. You have to love the propaganda people use. Creative but laughable.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. Sanders makes statements then spends a lot of time walking them back. He speaks before thinking it
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jan 2016

Thru? We are seeing this a lot.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
5. But I can't find where he made that claim, and i went to the link lookng fo it
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jan 2016

This is stupid, that headline is spin

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
31. You missed it--here it is from the article
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jan 2016


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-walks-back-claim-campaign-unsettling-global/story?id=36471229

..............While campaigning in eastern Iowa on Saturday, the Vermont senator paraphrased an interview in a Wall Street Journal article several times with pride, drawing applause from the crowd, that said his viable candidacy was a reason markets have been unsettled.

“Stephen Schwarzman who is the CEO of Blackstone, one of the major financial institutions in this country, says that markets are unsettled because of geopolitical risks, the slowdown in China and because Bernie Sanders is a viable candidate,” Sanders told a crowd of supporters in Davenport, Iowa. “It appears that we have Wall Street a little bit nervous and that's a good thing. And then we got the entire political establishment heading to Iowa this week. And it seems to me that some of my friends in the political establishment are afraid.”

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
39. No, I saw that: “It appears that we have Wall Street a little bit nervous..."
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jan 2016

The CEO of Blackstone was acting a little bit nervous, hence the comment. And besides that even Sander's comment made with humor is far from the "paraphrased" statement that the headline claims it was no matter how you view it. I repeat this is spin, and stupid.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
44. Whoa, that was a total walkback. Sanders said the markets
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jan 2016

were unsettled for 3 reasons. One of them was him. Now on This Week, he's completely walking that back. Read his own quotes.

This is the kind of stuff he's gotten away with, and he gets very hostile when challenged. He's walked back many of his gaseous applause lines when questioned, which has been frequent lately. That's why people say he hasn't been properly vetted. His comments don't hold up under pushback.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
45. Nobody can walk back something they never said
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jan 2016

It's impossible. Stephen Scwarzman said this and Bernie responded that Wall St. is nervous because his campaign is going so well.

Why is that so hard for people to grasp?

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
46. "You quoted with pride..." Then he walked it back.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 05:51 PM
Jan 2016

Totally. It was on This Week, so it's obvious who said what, and when, and why. When he got pushback, he dropped his campaign bragging and walked back his self-promotion.




 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
47. Camp Weathervane must be suffering from hallucinations
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jan 2016

it's either that or carbon monoxide poisoning...kookoo for cocoa puffs.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
48. Ah, so you didn't actually see the This Week show.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jan 2016

Got it.


He wanted to be a badass at his rally so he quoted from the article about his badness. Then when he's later confronted, he backs down totally. That's a weathervane all right.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
49. Yes i did
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jan 2016

The RWers and corporate hacks are so scared of him--of course he's gonna beat his chest and laugh at them! Are you challenged in some way? Never mind, don't answer that. I have if all figured out.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
53. So now you finally admit he was pandering.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jan 2016

That was the point of his walking back his comments. He does that a lot when challenged, something that has been very obvious.

OH, and I have you all figured out too. I'm superior that way myself, donchaknow.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
54. I can't thank you enough for keeping this kicked
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jan 2016

Idiocy and desperation like this should be on prominent display for all to see. Thanks again!

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
82. Because they really want not to grasp it. They triangulate just like their candidate. Bernie is
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jan 2016

just better at politics than them. They can't find a clear path to victory around that reality, so they triangulate and obfuscate.

Blue State Bandit

(2,122 posts)
59. New Title: Blackstone Group Piss Collective Pants, Claim Bernie's a Ventriloquist!
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jan 2016

Love these circular arguments that attributes a quote to the person reporting said quite.

Can't wait for the participants of this mind-bending exercise try to explain this new superpower they think Bernie has acquired.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
13. If you would read it, you would know he did not say that.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jan 2016

There is nothing to walk back. Surprise, surprise, editorial spin. He cited a Wall Street bankster blaming him for turmoil and said it was absurd. Hardly a claim or a walk back, just ABC.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
76. I've read it several times.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jan 2016

He reported to them what the establishment was claiming. He said it is absurd.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
16. again, these people drop in, post total idiotic nonsense then leave. They dont hang around.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jan 2016

they know its bullshit. But, what else do they have? nothing

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
18. No, we're not. Watch the youtube vid in post #6
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jan 2016

at about the 3:10 min mark. Sanders never made any such statement, ipso facto, there is no walking back going on except in the alternate universe of Camp Weathervane.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
4. Well Eugene...
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jan 2016

... perhaps you can explain how one "walks back" a claim made by someone else? Or are we now responsible to cover for the idiocy of every fucking yahoo that says something ridiculous?

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
35. But sanders repeated it....like it was true and his crowd applauded.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016


....

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-walks-back-claim-campaign-unsettling-global/story?id=36471229

..............While campaigning in eastern Iowa on Saturday, the Vermont senator paraphrased an interview in a Wall Street Journal article several times with pride, drawing applause from the crowd, that said his viable candidacy was a reason markets have been unsettled.

“Stephen Schwarzman who is the CEO of Blackstone, one of the major financial institutions in this country, says that markets are unsettled because of geopolitical risks, the slowdown in China and because Bernie Sanders is a viable candidate,” Sanders told a crowd of supporters in Davenport, Iowa. “It appears that we have Wall Street a little bit nervous and that's a good thing. And then we got the entire political establishment heading to Iowa this week. And it seems to me that some of my friends in the political establishment are afraid.”

dogman

(6,073 posts)
41. No, Senator Sanders reported it because it was true.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jan 2016

What, quoted above, is not true? Did Schwarzman not say that? Is he not part of the Wall Street establishment? Is saying Schwarzman was absurd really a walk back? ABC is the part of the political establishment.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
6. Except Stephen Scwarzman made that claim - not Bernie
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:04 PM
Jan 2016

God these people are scum.

On youtube: Blackstone CEO: Bernie Sanders Scares the Markets

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
33. Yes, but Sanders paraphased Stephen's comments...
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jan 2016





http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-walks-back-claim-campaign-unsettling-global/story?id=36471229

..............While campaigning in eastern Iowa on Saturday, the Vermont senator paraphrased an interview in a Wall Street Journal article several times with pride, drawing applause from the crowd, that said his viable candidacy was a reason markets have been unsettled.

“Stephen Schwarzman who is the CEO of Blackstone, one of the major financial institutions in this country, says that markets are unsettled because of geopolitical risks, the slowdown in China and because Bernie Sanders is a viable candidate,” Sanders told a crowd of supporters in Davenport, Iowa. “It appears that we have Wall Street a little bit nervous and that's a good thing. And then we got the entire political establishment heading to Iowa this week. And it seems to me that some of my friends in the political establishment are afraid.”
 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
37. So freaking what?
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jan 2016

The headline is blatantly misleading. You can't walk back something you never said in the first place.

Please tell me you understand that much.

Kokonoe

(2,485 posts)
8. Bernie Sanders never made the claim, but refuted a Wall Street executive who
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jan 2016

said said something like, Bernie Sanders will end the world as we know it.



ejbr

(5,856 posts)
14. He clarified his PP. HRC, NARAL
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jan 2016

statements, since some choose to be too obtuse to comprehend its meaning.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
17. And even then, his clarification was not good enough. Instead of attacking all of PP, he merely
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jan 2016

attacked the leadership of PP. That is not ok. I get you and others thinks so, but I stand with the President of PP and all the outrageous RW attack of the last couple years.

Not to mention the diss as 'establishment' simply because they did not support Sanders, when Sanders is the ultimate participant in the establishment for the last three decades. So, he is simply wrong.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
20. His criticism,
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jan 2016

is not because of their support of Hillary, but HOW THEY CAME to support Hillary. And given that the president of PP's daughter is working on the Clinton campaign, makes their endorsement extremely suspect. Just as the president of HRC, who decided without member input, was once a protogee of the Clintons. This is the establishment of which he speaks.

And if the leadership doesn't care what their members think, then yes it is okay to attack them.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. Excuses for a man running in the Democratic party, attacking our progressive org. NOT good enough.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jan 2016

Response to ejbr (Reply #23)

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
29. I will just color
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:14 PM
Jan 2016

you obtuse. Bernie's record on women's issues speak for itself. Does that answer your concern? Now back to ours

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
42. Looks that way doesn't it?
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jan 2016

Could be why Bernie only seems to care about 98% white Iowa and New Hampshire.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
34. It is not out of the realm of possibility
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jan 2016

that a campaign with an alarmingly huge groundswell of support for making sweeping economic changes could possibly cause Wall Streeters to talk.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
25. there was nothing to walk back
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jan 2016

this was a bullshit talking point from the rw wackos. scare mongering from the downtrodden 1%

Autumn

(45,105 posts)
26. You are all so funny. Bernie walked back what he never said. That's the ticket
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jan 2016
You guys are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
32. "I fully admit to having a big ego"
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 04:27 PM
Jan 2016

NO SHIT. His ego is his No. 1 concern. He was either unwilling or unable to name any Wall Street execs he would prosecute so that tells you all you need to know. He can't answer how he would break up banks, but hey clap for Bernie! He is in favor of drones and is not anti-war. So many signs his campaign is all about his ego. I'm surprised so many fall for this.

Blue State Bandit

(2,122 posts)
55. Your lack of reading comprehension disturbs me.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jan 2016

- Schwarzman said "markets are unsettled"

- Bernie said "Wall St{'s} nervous".

- Market is infrastructure, Walls St. is a culture/physical address of a market access point.

- Schwarzman has no proof, just knows that he and his friends are unsettled.

My conclusion, you're either gullible, you failed reading comprehension, or your claim is that markets are people.



R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
56. Your lack of reading comprehension is also disturbing.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jan 2016

But I saw Bernie himself with his pandering explanation. What's your excuse?

Bottom line: Berni wanted to be a Badass in front of his supporters, so he used this article to brag on himself. Then when confronted on national TV, he denounced the article. Cant have it both ways.

Blue State Bandit

(2,122 posts)
58. And he can denounce, and belittle that article till the cows come home.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jan 2016

And when he is confronted with it on national TV he can laugh at it again. That you don't know the difference between a market and a hedge fund manager, means nothing to the validity of you or the OP's claim.



Ignorance must be bliss.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
64. LMAO! What bizarre nonsense. He got caught
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jan 2016

pandering. Deal with it. Saying one thing to his crowds and something else when challenged. Your comments are bizarre.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
66. You obviously didn't watch the show being discussed.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:39 PM
Jan 2016

Your comments are bizarre and obviously just a diversion to your true intent, which is to attack personally. Fail yourself.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
68. So far your only input is to call me ignorant and
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:52 PM
Jan 2016

insane. If I did that to you, my posts would get hidden. Must be nice!

You obviously didn't watch the show or read the article. It's obvious from your bizarre comments. Hint: your interpretations of it are the opposite of what happened in the article and BS's response in the show.

Fail yourself. You just latched on to this to insult me petsonally.

You should write Martha Raddatz and call her names, too. She is the one who boxed him with his own comment walk back.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
70. LOL at the non-stop personal insults, which is
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jan 2016

now the 4th or 5th Bernie supporter to try this tactic. This is why it's hilarious that you claim superiority about "issues".

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
72. He's stuck in Stage 4.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jan 2016

Someone needs to tell him that he should be in Stage 5.

STAGE 4: Smear the candidate and his supporters with innuendos of sexism and racism by falsely claiming only white men support them (you like this candidate because he’s white and male like you, not because of ideology or policy or contempt for the party establishment’s corporatist, pro-war approach).

STAGE 5: Brazen invocation of right-wing attacks to marginalize and demonize, as polls prove the candidate is a credible threat (he’s weak on terrorism, will surrender to ISIS, has crazy associations, and is a clone of Mao and Stalin).


If Bernie wins Iowa, then they move to Stage 7:

STAGE 7: Full-scale and unrestrained meltdown, panic, lashing-out, threats, recriminations, self-important foot-stomping, overt union with the Right, complete fury (I can no longer in good conscience support this party of misfits, terrorist-lovers, communists, and heathens).


https://theintercept.com/2016/01/21/the-seven-stages-of-establishment-backlash-corbynsanders-edition/

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
73. You are also welcome to spam Martha Raddatz and tell
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 11:16 PM
Jan 2016

her what your post is really about:

LEAVE BERNIE ALONE!!!

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
61. Ooh, me too. Love the phony "worry" too where
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jan 2016

we all have to pretend we don't know that it's just an excuse to badger people who don't worship Bernie oooh.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
50. “It appears that we have Wall Street a little bit nervous and that's a good thing."
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jan 2016

"... the idea that Bernie Sanders’ candidacy because it has growing support all over this country is unsettling world markets is absolutely absurd."

He didn't something, something.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
57. Do the attacks in this thread seem even more sweat drenched and shrill than usual?
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jan 2016

Actually, it's like this all over GDP today.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
75. I can't really tell.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jan 2016

Never been good at distinguishing saturation from over-saturation. That's why I'm not allowed in the kitchen.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
81. The purpose of this OP is to keep bmping false spin from ABC to the top of the GD-P page
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jan 2016

I waited for it to be near the top again to post this. That is all. No more bumps from me - I gave my reasoned reply above already.

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