2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow Martin O'Malley will be hurt by the caucus system in Iowa.
Unlike in the primaries, where each vote counts, under Iowa's anti-democratic caucus system, only candidates with 15% or more of the precinct vote are assigned delegates.
This will also affect Hillary and Bernie because candidates can have a substantial spread in the number of votes from individual voters, but be assigned the same number of caucus delegates. No one can get a fraction of a delegate, so two candidates with different vote counts can have the same delegate count.
And the actual vote counts are not publicized -- only the delegate counts.
Also, none of the votes are secret ballots. If, for example, a husband and a wife disagree, or an employer and an employee, they have to disagree openly and in public. And they get to try to persuade each other, publicly, to change their votes.
It's an antiquated system but it's what we're still stuck with in states like Iowa and my own state of Washington.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/23/us/politics/clinton-sanders-omalley-iowa-caucuses.html?mabReward=CTM&action=click&pgtype=Homepage®ion=CColumn&module=Recommendation&src=rechp&WT.nav=RecEngine
The arcane rules of Iowas Democratic caucuses mean that most OMalley supporters will be ruled nonviable if he does not get 15 percent support at a caucus; his supporters will then be up for grabs by another candidate. With polls showing the race between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders narrowing to a near tie, OMalley supporters, along with attendees who enter their neighborhood caucuses undecided, could swing the results.
A LIST OF PRIMARIES AND CAUCUSES, BY DATE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)But it is what it is.
doc03
(35,340 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts)...and the threshold isn't statewide, it's by precinct, so he could come out with delegates.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)where my vote didn't end up counting because there weren't enough others voting for the most liberal candidate.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)The rules say you need 15% . If he cant get 15%, maybe he should consider dropping out of the race.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)I know how I felt when my vote didn't count. I'm sure plenty of O'Malley's voters will feel the same way when they realize they went to the caucus for nothing (or, at best, to have a chance to vote for their second choice).
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Where Hillary insulted Iowans about their caucus system? It's not a great way to make friends and influence people.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)I'm not worried that Iowans -- the vast majority of whom don't participate (less than half the number in primary states) -- will be insulted by the truth.
elleng
(130,956 posts)so be good to us, guys!!!
femmedem
(8,203 posts)Seriously, though, I thought O'Malley did very well in the debates and wish the moderators had given him a fair amount of time to speak. His policies and his values represent Democrats well--and you've done a great job of getting the word out about him on DU.
elleng
(130,956 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)I keep trying to get them to change the system here, but they're too afraid of Rethugs being able to vote in our primaries . . . I guess.
elleng
(130,956 posts)FSogol
(45,488 posts)Primaries are much better, imo. Caucuses are weighted toward the front runner.
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)There is also a 15% threshold in Texas to get delegates
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)is anywhere near 15% anywhere. Unfortunately.
He is not going to get enough delegates to have any influence on who the ultimate nominee is.
The only real thing remaining to him is to figure out who he wants to endorse when he drops out. If he does choose to endorse.