Fuck Bloomberg.

that could be the one condition where i could consider staying home. it would be that bleak.

Bernie come hell or high water!

Assuming OMalley isn't the nominee. Of course there is an entire thread about which Bernie supporters would never vote for Hillary.
I'm voting for the dem nominee. Period. I don't see how a 3rd party candidate could win anyway.

i agree completely. bloomberg cannot win. he would basically be running as a literal spoiler and to try and put trump in the w.h.

I've never missed an election in 36 years and won't break that streak in 2016. It's too important. I may not like the candidate I'm left with, but what else is new. Luckily, I didn't have that problem in 2008 or 2012, but I'm no stranger to it.

...if he loses the Democratic nomination. That shoe may now be on the other foot.

I assume it's because more democrats voted for him. To me he's only recently a democrat but I would accept if more dems voted for him then he's a dem.

When all the shouting dies down I am confident that the vast majority of Hillary supporters will vote for Bernie if he wins, and vice versa. There will always be some exceptions, but that will be the rule. We are in primary season now, when we all get to fight for who we believe in most. But I sure didn't appreciate Former DNC Chair Ed Rendell making noises about maybe supporting Bloomberg over Sanders.

What an idiotic thing to say. Bernie would only get the nomination if dems vote for him what doesn't Ed understand about party politics?

He didn't leave the Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party left him.....and me.


--bvar22, a mainstream-Center FDR/JFK, LBJ DEMOCRAT

If he were part of the official Democratic party, he might have had to tow the party line, even when the party was Caspar Milquetoast.

I'm sure glad he is where he is!

If Sanders gets the nom, and his polling #s fall off a cliff, which they will, some may think that a President Bloomberg is preferable to a President Trump.

Geez - Independents, the majority voter now, love the guy.

ALASKA! No, his polls won't go down. the revolution though maybe not televised is real. Alaska is coda to that point.

that showed Bernie had raised more money in Alaska than any other candidate except for Ben Carson as of 10/15 - and that included super PAC money for the other candidates. I think he would do very well here. Only one of my Alaskan FB friends supports Hillary.

By the way, I hope you weathered the quake okay. It really shook up here and I'm sure it was much worse where you are.

that Clinton has faced and prevailed against for many decades.

This argument always puzzles me, since it would only apply if Bernie just falls to pieces under the glare of Republican attacks. I've been following Bernie for many years, and if he's our nominee, he's going to react and answer their slime, just as he is responding now to the charges being leveled against him by the Clinton camp. He's doing pretty well in responding effectively against them, and he will do even better against the GOP, IMO. And as far as Hillary's "success" in battling republicans, I think the answer to that is that she hasn't really succeeded all that well...if she had, the crap that is being dredged up from all of these fake scandals old and new, would no longer have any power.
Off topic, but I am not enjoying this primary which is putting so many DU'ers at odds with each other. I am dismayed that so many members such as you that I like and appreciate are on a different side of the Primary fence. I look forward to us having a nominee, and getting past the vitriol of primary politics. We may be on different sides today, but in November we will be united, as it should be.

My oops has an oops as me thinks you are serious

You watch and see.

I'd rather not see a Bloomberg 3rd party self financed run. Bernie would be going up against 2 bazzillionaires.

than he would from Bernie.

Bloomberg said he'd run if it's Sanders vs trump so it doesn't sound like he would take any votes from Hillary.

good for Bernie. It plays into everything he says about the one percent running the country.

He and Trump would split the republican vote. Win for Bernie.

Bloomberg would barely take any votes from Sanders.

He would pull in republicans who are embarrassed by Trump and Cruz, but would never vote for a democrat. IMO.

is certainly non-appealing.

I would rather he not hurt the democratic nominee even a little.

to divide us so we lose no matter who the Democratic candidate is.
Their goal is a GOP controlled White House, and Congress.
Will you let them have it?
GOTV.

would vote for Bloomberg over Bernie. Trump would be your president. Bloomberg has no chance in winning. Outside of the financial community & New Yorkers he's not as well known as Trump. Trump would win handily.

keep bernie out of the wh.

Bloomberg is neither known nor liked elsewhere.

His run would help Trump because it could take New York votes from Democrats.

He doesn't exactly have a lot of charisma, much of a following, no real platform that people will flock towards, and if Rendell does choose to vote for him, he will probably get a max of 2 votes.

Sam

Conventional wisdom this year doesn't mean squat. The people are responding to Trump and Sanders because they know they are being screwed. I see Bloomberg polling at Jeb Bush levels no matter how much money he spends. He is the epitome of business as usual which, IF Bernie and Trump are the nominees, is being soundly rejected by voters.

Even more so if Bloomberg runs. I can't stand that fucker.

Not tens of millions.

Or consider it?

I am serious.

I will vote for HRC in my primary but if the democratic voter decides Bernie should lead the party, I accept their decision and would vote for Bernie.

like a plausible outcome. Most of my family is from North Central Kansas, and are totally disgusted Trump will be their nominee. Most o them are pulling for Rubio. A Bloomberg option checks a lot of boxes for them.

Equals Electoral College Landslide for Sanders.

Bloomberg takes the Country Club vote and not much else, taking 5 GOP votes for every Dem vote he could get.

There is nothing Far Left about Sanders. That is why he is doing well. And why the insiders are so baffled by his success. They don't grasp how far to the Lunatic Right money has pushed both parties.

I know old time GOP who are dismayed they may have to vote for trump. They have vowed never to vote dem so I can see where Bloomberg hurts trump more than Sanders. I'm not hearing a large swatch of Hillary supporters will not vote for Sanders.

The fact that the establishment wants to push another candidate in because they can't stand the thought of Bernie, let's me know even more so that Bernie is the correct choice.

with my support and campaign work. The alternative is unthinkable.

Think Ross Perot.

Only Hillary supporters will buy it.

At least the popular vote. If he does better than average with independents and pulls a little from both sides. Electoral vote is trickier.

It's the same city DiBlasio is now the mayor of.

I stayed with a friend who had a great view of the back of the San Remo. It's more like the neighborhood depicted on Steinfeld.

Suits weren't the norm.

A lot of blue collars.

Tough one. They are quite equivalent in every respect.

Bernie still might win New York State.

That's a no-brainer for me. Bloomberg doesn't even factor into it. He won't be our nominee, therefore he will not be in the slightest beholden to the Democratic platform. I don't even know where he stands on anything, although I'd hazard a guess that he's not too down on billionaires.....

Beyond that, I'm not convinced that Bloomberg running wouldn't split the GOP way more than our party. There is a serious manhattan echo chamber that doesn't understand that 5 Million Dollar Condos, fancy dogs and exclusive preschools are the exception, not the rule, in most of America.

To most of America, Bloomberg is just another gassy Billionaire-- one who tried to ban big gulps. In addition to the NYC puma types, he'll cleave the blueblood flat tax republicans away from the angry crazy Xenophobe republicans.

A win win for us, and for Sanders.

For a billionaire to come forward and essentially say that he would trust Hillary to be a caretaker of him & his pals. That should give Hillary supporters pause.

seem to think he's running against Trump not Clinton. ahem when sorta proves a point doesn't it. Can't tell them apart even the media can't. (no not talke Faux, I treat them like TMZ. I ignore them. I wanna know what the conservatives are doing Faux won't tellme that.

I can't conceive of any Democrat going for that blowhard.

Bloomberg feels like a moderate Republican to me. I certainly won't vote for him.

..it will stink to high heaven, but my God, compared to the Rethuglicans? In 36 years, I've never soiled my self voting for the R candidate. Staying home IS a vote for Trump, Rubio, Cruz or whatever carcass the nut jobs and fascists nominate.

Bloomie. I would crack open the piggy bank. Bloomie is an elitist, skull-cracking pig masquerading as a "moderate" something-or-other.

It sounds like smooth sailing to me.

very clever!

in its own op

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251801031

kay, your turn

There ain't no way on God's good Earth I would vote for him for president.

guess you will have some interesting choices come election day..

don't forget there is always the write in option!

I will vote for the nominee.

don't mind me, its late..i thought you were speaking of bernie major of burlington

almost forgot about bloomberg for a second.

it was a nice, peaceful second

think i might be due for some

Seems to me ( based on a lot of the commentary i've read here over the last year or so) that many of Clinton's people will go to Trump in a Sanders vs. Trump one on one.

Maybe it's better for Sanders if two narcissistic billionaires are divvying the DINO vote.

I think his candidacy would end up helping Bernie

he could hurt bernie if many go puma. but i think he could hurt trump by grabbing the estsblishment repubs..,the bush and rubio guys who just can't bring themselves to vote for trump.

He can use the savings for when Sanders is in the White House and tells the top one percent they must pay their fair share of taxes.

Sam

The Clinton folks have been clear for months that they'll vote for whomever the Democratic nominee is. It's the Sanders folks who keep insisting they'll proudly "never vote for Clinton".

party hacks like ed rendell have come out publicly and said they would vote for him over bernie. rendell is basically suggesting dems vote against the party to see bernie lose.

it presents a new twist on an old question.

...don't know how to tell you this, but we haven't been given secret decoder rings.

this could spread and get quite ugly.

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