to beat us over the head with it.

The DNC oligarchy is in "anyone but Bernie" mode.

Yet they want Bernie supporters to swear we will support ANY Dem (read Hillary) candidate

They are lying again.

the primary, would they?

She's supposed to have over a hundred Super Delegates locked up and Bernie has 16 the last I heard. Whether the Democrats will stage a coup should Bernie be leading Clinton come time for the convention? Who knows, after what they've shown so far we shouldn't trust them though. Ever again.

The only question is, what will people do when they fuck us that overtly?

The people would leave the party in mass. But that still wouldn't matter to the establishment because they'd just carry on fucking us with a GOP government.

I think voters are smarter than that; but, I could be wrong!

here in Florida. With no repercussions. So the establishment can kiss my patootie.

It is hilariously obvious that Bernie was just supposed to herd progressives and liberals into the Hillary chute, and then go away. Not going to happen.

but it isn't.

if it is a Big club these days; but more an exclusive club. And buddy... You ain't in it!

and looking behind the curtains at the wizards at the $$$$$ machine raking it in for themselves and their buddies. Just a quick glance at the wealth distribution chart for the US tells us how screwed we currently are. And also, something like 61 people own most of the wealth of earth. It's insane.

I've been willing to give political parties the benefit of the doubt before, but this election has proven to me that regular people don't have as much of a voice as we think we do.

not for them. He saw it long before most of us did...he was there. It is said he does not have an enemy in Congress. How could that be? Because he doesn't belong to interests that would require him to dig his heels in come what may...and that is usually conflict. That's what the two party system thrives on...conflict. He doesn't do that...thus, people are getting a different perspective of American politics, what it has been, what it is, and what it could be. That's how I read The Revolution.

True, the Establishment only came to him for his support and used it to their advantage, when he joined them. Now, his secret is out...and a lot of us got the message.

When the People are ready, the Leader will appear.

I read a news story that said the democratic elite have developed "antipathy" towards Bernie solely because of his success in attracting voters. It was fine when he was talking about issues and affecting the conversation, but now that he has a chance to win the nomination he is the enemy.

It's clear they view voters with great disdain.

Or looking a gift horse in the mouth ... choose your favorite phrase .. it amounts to the
same thing, and it couldn't be more obvious.

Use Bernie to attract new people into the Big Tent, then denigrate him for his trouble.

It's despicable.

and they'd better not think they can beat us to death with it.

I love turning bon mots...there's no money in it, though.

Dorothy "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" Parker and Oscar "The best way to get rid of temptation is to give into it" Wilde. What's a few bucks when compared to immortality?

the other 99% can stand outside in the cold and await further instructions.

hear the empty speech, give our time and money, surrender our votes on the appointed day, and then not make any demands because the Republicans will win

the voters, in other words, are barely participants in the election--they're more like raw material or poker chips; we're corralled by footmen and disciplined with guilt trips and swaggering Grover Dill toadies

we're definitely not ADULTS in their eyes

A President Sanders will put in a progressive DNC chair who will clean house and that terrifies all the people who have benefited from corporate corruption for decades.

Too bad! Somebody needs to inform you pretenders that the club STARTS


HERE.

Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.

Then Bernie will win.

The Oligarchs, Corporations and Banks.

It's a dynasty.

. . . and you ain't in it .---George Carlin

I do think that Bernie will win the nomination, will be supported by the Democratic Party, will win the White House, and will drag the larger Democratic Party along with him.

With Bernie in the White House, we will have a resetting of the political norms, back to FDR/Kennedy/Johnson days.

I don't think that the Democratic Party will be able to switch the rules at this time, even if some important people there (such as Deborah Wasserman Schultz, Ed Rendell, etc.) wish otherwise.

If Bernie loses the nomination to Hillary, I will wholeheartedly support her. But at this point, I am delighted with Bernie's rise in the polls and the huge support he is getting from the American people.

Go BERNIE!!!!

recognize him as the nominee and supports an Independent well that will tell the world the Democratic Party is not the Party of Working Class Americans but an extension of the Republican Party.







Bernie Sanders can win this !!!!

The party elites were not getting their way. Kennedy was gone. King was gone. Daley and others wanted to make sure things went their way. Google it and watch some of the video. The whole world was indeed watching. I can almost imagine the Republican convention having it happen also.

And then took the rest with Clinton.

But there is a lot of history. In 1968 the youth were fighting and campaigning for a young upstart named "Robert Kennedy" against the party favorite of Hubert Humphrey. He was the party favorite and just had to wait for the coronation in Chicago. When Kennedy was killed the young then wanted Eugene McCarthy, the party did not want any one but Humphrey. "It was his time". He had all the experience after all. The only problem was the people wanted Kennedy and then McCarthy.

I was only 20 at the time and was not able to vote. I did not know of any one of my friends that ever voted for anyone until Jimmy Carter was the candidate. It kind of soured a whole generation for quite a while.

different method for selecting its nominee back in 1968 than it does today. (The system we use today largely came about because of '68 and wee first used to nominate McGovern in 1972.)

RFK only entered the race AFTER McCarthy had demonstrated LBJ's vulnerability by almost winning New Hampshire from an elected incumbent.

Young voters did not want RFK first and McCarthy second. Just the opposite.

After RFK's assassination, his delegates did not go to McCarthy. Instead, RFK's delegates became unpledged and subject to then-extant Dem Party rules, i. e., the Machine.

And I'm talking to YOU, Debbie! And anyone who feels entitled as you do to make up the rules to suit purely personal interests.

An election is not somebody's private weapon.

You like throwing these things out with no facts, not even substantiated opinion.

If the so-called "Democratic establishment" is so horrible, why did the outsider Bernie Sanders decide to toss his hat in the Democratic ring for their nomination? Surely there are better organizations/banners under which he could have run for President.

Once the voting was counted. Lets not drop the eggs from the basket in our haste to make an omelet.

those who had started threads here criticizing her (and those who had joined in the criticism) would be punished, in some unstated way. I don't believe that to be true for a single second, but think about the mind of someone who posts something like that... I mean, is that a club, or a gang?

Wowzers, people here take this board way too seriously - not you, Cali, but her supporters who are incapable of being good sports.