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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:05 PM Jan 2016

Robert Reich: I’ve Known Hillary Since She Was 19. Bernie Sanders is the Most Qualified Candidate

Last edited Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:04 PM - Edit history (1)

In a startling upset for the Clinton campaign, Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor for the Clinton administration, has come out in support of Bernie Sanders in a searing blog post that gets to the “volcanic core” of what this election is truly about.

*On Edit* The 2nd paragraph has changed from when it was originally posted online. what follows is paragraph 2 as of 7pm PST*
“I’ve known Hillary Clinton since she was 19 years old, and have nothing but respect for her. In my view, she’s the most qualified candidate for president of the political system we now have,” Reich said. “But Bernie Sanders is the most qualified candidate to create the political system we should have, because he’s leading a political movement for change.”

Reich referenced a Princeton survey which, after analyzing 1,799 policy issues from 1981 to 2002, ultimately concluded that “The preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically insignificant impact upon public policy.” Reich added that since 2002, the Citizens United and McCutcheon decisions have only “opened the floodgates to big money” even more.

-snip-

http://usuncut.com/politics/robert-reich-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-best-candidate/

Link to his actual blog post:

http://robertreich.org/post/138036377515




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Robert Reich: I’ve Known Hillary Since She Was 19. Bernie Sanders is the Most Qualified Candidate (Original Post) arcane1 Jan 2016 OP
"startling upset" Really? DURHAM D Jan 2016 #1
And with good reason Proserpina Jan 2016 #2
AGREED! Plenty of Self Manufactured Ammo From The Clintons...Against Themselves! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #23
Yes, Reich knew what he was talking about. Cal33 Jan 2016 #68
Links to his trashing the Clintons cali Jan 2016 #5
Do you watch tv? nt DURHAM D Jan 2016 #8
No. But I watch clips from time to time cali Jan 2016 #11
Ok. DURHAM D Jan 2016 #12
No, I think if one makes a concrete claim, cali Jan 2016 #17
You are funny. DURHAM D Jan 2016 #21
you have none then roguevalley Jan 2016 #24
Cali's being polite, you're just being deliberately obtuse and rude Divernan Jan 2016 #27
You're being rather creepy. cali Jan 2016 #35
Okay shug. Sweet dreams. nt DURHAM D Jan 2016 #44
here is one... tomm2thumbs Jan 2016 #31
Just horrible! cali Jan 2016 #36
calling Bill Clinton tomm2thumbs Jan 2016 #38
You've posted about a half dozen OP "concrete claims", and despite being asked to do what..... George II Jan 2016 #41
Georgie, be nice. DURHAM D Jan 2016 #42
Bull. cali Jan 2016 #50
Shall I dig out my requests to you? No, I won't but you know they're there. George II Jan 2016 #70
Haha, so true. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #61
Your website doing well? Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #71
Fuck tv. morningfog Jan 2016 #30
Big time! TV is for suckers Ned_Devine Jan 2016 #46
Here, disagreeing on policy IS "trashing" if it's about the Clintons n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #14
That's very dishonest. mountain grammy Jan 2016 #22
Seriously. Obama too. ucrdem Jan 2016 #57
Is this an endorsement? Punkingal Jan 2016 #3
Most definitely cali Jan 2016 #6
Hallelujah! Punkingal Jan 2016 #10
Yayyyyyy! Duval Jan 2016 #65
And an explanation kristopher Jan 2016 #37
Very good..thank you, Robert. K&R Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #4
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #7
Great find! farleftlib Jan 2016 #9
A BIG K & R n/t RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #13
K n R snagglepuss Jan 2016 #15
I've been watching Hillary since i was 19 mdbl Jan 2016 #16
Well obviously we have a Congress filled with Democratic Lites INdemo Jan 2016 #32
Ruh-Roh! Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #18
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #19
Oopsie. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #20
I still remember when he endorsed Obama in 2008. I was shocked...because I thought he had already StevieM Jan 2016 #25
Lieberman? Classic DINO mdbl Jan 2016 #60
Can you imagine him writing in his own name greiner3 Jan 2016 #63
Moldy Joe? Hell yes hifiguy Jan 2016 #64
Wow! santafe52 Jan 2016 #26
Clearly everyone else is the problem. Clearly. Fearless Jan 2016 #28
Wow, you too? arcane1 Jan 2016 #67
I don't think the A Simple Game Jan 2016 #69
The upcoming election isn’t about detailed policy proposals. It’s about power. Kip Humphrey Jan 2016 #29
Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens kristopher Jan 2016 #33
God, I would love to see this guy in the Bernie Cabinet. nt Nyan Jan 2016 #34
'It's about power...ending the chokehold of big money...' sorechasm Jan 2016 #39
Why did you change the quote? apples and oranges Jan 2016 #40
Because the truth favors Hillary. nt SunSeeker Jan 2016 #43
I copy/pasted the headline of the article, then I quoted the 1st three paragraphs. arcane1 Jan 2016 #47
Op corrected quote - All is well. Lucinda Jan 2016 #51
Then they changed the article after I posted. I did a direct copy/paste. arcane1 Jan 2016 #53
I would! and I'll edit my posts! Lucinda Jan 2016 #54
Thanks! I hate it when that happens! I originally wanted to quote his blog directly arcane1 Jan 2016 #55
They do that sometimes. Thanks for fixing it! Lucinda Jan 2016 #56
Kick and R BeanMusical Jan 2016 #45
For all the Clinton supporters that can't understand humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #48
KICK AND REC AND REC ANNNNNNND, KICK! Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #49
Thanks for correcting the quote! Lucinda Jan 2016 #52
We need the most qualified candidate to break the system, and that's Sanders. californiabernin Jan 2016 #58
Well stated, Professor Reich. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #59
The only Americans getting what they want are those invested in Wall St. raouldukelives Jan 2016 #62
K&R!! Duval Jan 2016 #66
Bernie!! AzDar Jan 2016 #72

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
23. AGREED! Plenty of Self Manufactured Ammo From The Clintons...Against Themselves!
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:09 PM
Jan 2016

History matters HillBill!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. Links to his trashing the Clintons
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jan 2016

I've never read anything of his where he trashed them.

Disagreeing on policy is not trashing.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. No. But I watch clips from time to time
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jan 2016

I'm sure you'll have no problem linking me to video of Reich trashing the Clintons.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. No, I think if one makes a concrete claim,
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:55 PM - Edit history (1)

such as you did, it is incumbent on the person making said claim, to provide evidence that it is factual.

I am not saying you made it up, but I am saying that I, someone who follows Reich fairly closely, have never seen or heard him trash the Clintons.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
27. Cali's being polite, you're just being deliberately obtuse and rude
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jan 2016

In other words, you got nothin'.

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. You've posted about a half dozen OP "concrete claims", and despite being asked to do what.....
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jan 2016

....you're asking for here, you have either refused or been unable to do so (which is telling)

mountain grammy

(26,655 posts)
22. That's very dishonest.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jan 2016

Robert Reich has been a vocal advocate for workers and unions, neither of which did well under the Democratic presidency of Bill Clinton, and not so great under Obama either.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
57. Seriously. Obama too.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:09 PM
Jan 2016

In fact "NAFTA on steroids" was Reich's brainchild as I recall. He's been bashing Hillary for months if not years.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
37. And an explanation
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jan 2016

Some people need things like this spelled out:
"This election is about changing the parameters of what’s feasible and ending the choke hold of big money on our political system."

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
9. Great find!
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jan 2016
Reich referred to Bernis as a “political activist who tells it like it is, who has lived by his convictions for fifty years, who won’t take a dime of money from big corporations or Wall Street or the very rich, and who is leading a grass-roots ‘political revolution’ to regain control over our democracy and economy.”


I know that's right.

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
16. I've been watching Hillary since i was 19
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jan 2016

and i respected her past positions immensely. But that was the past. She has completely moderated center right and then marginally moved to the left since Bernie has been in the running, but not enough. I can't vote Republican Lite. I will vote Bernie in the primary.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
32. Well obviously we have a Congress filled with Democratic Lites
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:39 PM
Jan 2016

When there are Democrats that would endorse a Billionaire Independent if Bernie wins the nomination, add to that all the Democrats in Congress that have endorsed Hillary..Yes I say we have one hell of a lot of Republican lites in Congress.
The Congressman that surprised me most was Alan Grayson ...he came here to DU wanted donations claimed to be this progressive that certainly disliked DWS and then saw it as being politically correct,,he endorsed Hillary...what a phony.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
25. I still remember when he endorsed Obama in 2008. I was shocked...because I thought he had already
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jan 2016

endorsed Obama. He had been singing his praises for so long.

Whenever Reich endorses someone else it is spun as a shocking rebuke for Clinton. In reality, for Reich to have endorsed her, then or now, would have been very unexpected.

Who cares if he knew her a long time ago. So did Joe Lieberman. I don't expect Reich to support her in a primary any more than I expect Lieberman to support her in a general election.

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
60. Lieberman? Classic DINO
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 06:11 AM
Jan 2016

I expect him to vote for Ted Cruz. That's along the line of his preferences.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
64. Moldy Joe? Hell yes
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jan 2016

I can imagine that. He's an inflamed boil on the buttocks of humanity, that one.

 

santafe52

(57 posts)
26. Wow!
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jan 2016

What a disgustingly dis-honest headline to this story. Very Karl Rove-like.

Intentionally omitting the "and I have nothing but respect for her" is a tad egregious.

Can't believe after 63 years of being a Democrat, that members of my own party have become so flagrantly dis-ingenuous. I'm embarrassed for the party.

Everyone I talk with here in Santa Fe, has the same opinion……The rabid, classless Bernie supporters are ruining it for the incredibly classy Bernie Sanders.

He deserves so much better.


A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
69. I don't think the
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jan 2016

"and I have nothing but respect for her" would have fit into the title line. It was included in the body though, perhaps if you re-read the OP you will find it the second time.

As long as I'm here, would you be one of those "I would support Bernie if it weren't for those rabid, classless Bernie supporters" people that are now unwillingly forced to support Hillary? Or are you just playing one on the internets?

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
33. Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:48 PM
Jan 2016
Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens
Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page

Each of four theoretical traditions in the study of American politics—which can be characterized as theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralism, Majoritarian Pluralism and Biased Pluralism—offers different predictions about which sets of actors have how much influence over public policy: average citizens; economic elites; and organized interest groups, mass-based or business-oriented.

A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model.

We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.

The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.
https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

I'd love to hear someone ask Obama and Clinton about this study.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
39. 'It's about power...ending the chokehold of big money...'
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jan 2016

He's not attacking Hillary by promoting Bernie. He's promoting Bernie's cause:

Therefore: “This election is about changing the parameters of what’s feasible and ending the choke hold of big money on our political system… The upcoming election isn’t about detailed policy proposals. It’s about power – whether those who have it will keep it, or whether average Americans will get some as well.”


Reich doesn't think details are so critical as is the vision for this election:

“Detailed policy proposals are as relevant to the election of 2016 as is that gaseous planet beyond Pluto,” Reich said. “They don’t have a chance of making it, as things are now.”

The fundamentals (ending political corruption) need to change before we ever get to detailed policy.

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
40. Why did you change the quote?
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jan 2016

The article says:

I’ve known Hillary Clinton since she was 19 years old, and have nothing but respect for her. In my view, she’s the most qualified candidate for president of the political system we now have.

But Bernie Sanders is the most qualified candidate to create the political system we should have, because he’s leading a political movement for change.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
47. I copy/pasted the headline of the article, then I quoted the 1st three paragraphs.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:35 PM
Jan 2016

That's how it's done.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
53. Then they changed the article after I posted. I did a direct copy/paste.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jan 2016

I'll update the OP with the new version.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
55. Thanks! I hate it when that happens! I originally wanted to quote his blog directly
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jan 2016

But I was lazy

Thanks for helping me keep it real!

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
48. For all the Clinton supporters that can't understand
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:44 PM
Jan 2016

why people are turning from Hillary to Bernie, let me show you man.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017324155

Now I showed you mine, Show me yours...

 

californiabernin

(421 posts)
58. We need the most qualified candidate to break the system, and that's Sanders.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:09 PM
Jan 2016

American doesn't need the best qualified candidate for the system; America needs the best qualified candidate to fire enough people up to break the system.

Looking forward to Sanders v. Trump!

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
59. Well stated, Professor Reich.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jan 2016

Note that Reich thinks the TPP is a POS. I think that matters for his economic agenda.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
62. The only Americans getting what they want are those invested in Wall St.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jan 2016

Or I should say, getting what they pay for.

For the rest of us, we live in the most democracy they cannot afford to block from us. With every new shareholder in the markets, the siren of fascism grows louder.

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