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DVRacer

(707 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:06 AM Jan 2016

Help me with what I heard

Did Clinton just say "the truth and that's what you will get from now till I am elected President"
So after she is elected she is going to lie to us again? I mean that is what she said so fair to quote it right?

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Help me with what I heard (Original Post) DVRacer Jan 2016 OP
Yes, that's exactly what she meant. Good catch! DanTex Jan 2016 #1
That also implies we didn't get the truth until now. Nyan Jan 2016 #2
No, it doesn't. cheapdate Jan 2016 #3
she set an end date for when she would stop telling the truth Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #4
No, she didn't. See earlier post #3. cheapdate Jan 2016 #5
I saw it. Wrong analogy. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #7
That one also makes cheapdate Jan 2016 #8
True, but it does imply that there is an end date for doing it. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #9
My reason for pointing this out DVRacer Jan 2016 #10
Yes, I get it. cheapdate Jan 2016 #11
I think she is a bad bet. Bernie has a much better chance of holding the Presidency for us. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #12
I'm voting for Sanders in the primary. cheapdate Jan 2016 #15
I will vote against the Republican nominee, but it sure would be nice Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #16
Then promote him and his ideas. cheapdate Jan 2016 #18
What's it been up to now? MrMickeysMom Jan 2016 #6
And the Jury spoke neverforget Jan 2016 #13
Wait, what? OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #20
Well my first alert after nearly a year DVRacer Jan 2016 #14
You need to alert on the Jury results. The alerter, whoever it is, was way over the top, darkangel218 Jan 2016 #23
Welcome back! George II Jan 2016 #17
Nope first account not a new or different one DVRacer Jan 2016 #19
Yes, everything she says is designed to make you angry BainsBane Jan 2016 #21
That's what I can't figure out... MauriceLawrence96 Jan 2016 #22

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
3. No, it doesn't.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jan 2016

"I'm having roast beef for dinner" doesn't say anything about what I'm having for lunch tomorrow either.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
8. That one also makes
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:24 AM
Jan 2016

no claim whatsoever about what happens after 10 pounds, nor does it even imply what might happen. They might keep exercising and they might not.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
9. True, but it does imply that there is an end date for doing it.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:27 AM
Jan 2016

She said she would tell the truth until she becomes President (paraphrased). Also setting an end date.

I am sure that she will sometimes tell the truth after becoming President just as someone would also exercise on occasion after losing those 10 pounds.

It was just a minor misstatement. Not a big deal. You must know that I don't take this seriously.



DVRacer

(707 posts)
10. My reason for pointing this out
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:30 AM
Jan 2016

Was the idea of "Bernie is going to raise taxes" with no context that things can be clipped and look like something else rather than what it really is.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
11. Yes, I get it.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jan 2016

Hillary Clinton, neoliberal, expansionist, war-horse that she is, might be our only chance to keep the White House out of Republican hands come November. I would like that.

'She's an untrustworthy liar' is not helpful.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
12. I think she is a bad bet. Bernie has a much better chance of holding the Presidency for us.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jan 2016

Hillary is a terrible candidate. Simply covering up that fact does not solve it.

Polls show Bernie does better in head to head match ups. He also does not have the baggage Hillary does.

His net approval rating is about +26 and hers is -27 (depending on what poll you look at). Running someone with a huge net negative instead of someone with a huge net positive is crazy.


cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
15. I'm voting for Sanders in the primary.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:56 AM
Jan 2016

He might not win. I'd rather have Hillary over any Republican, and it's not even close.

Whether any of us likes it or not, it might be HRC in the general.

I'm not sure if you've heard the Donald's opinion of the EPA and environmental protection. It's ugly.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
16. I will vote against the Republican nominee, but it sure would be nice
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:57 AM
Jan 2016

to have a nominee that I want to vote for.


cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
18. Then promote him and his ideas.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:10 AM
Jan 2016

Draw contrasts. Leave the mud-slinging to Charles and David Koch. Don't do their work for them.

It's an imperfect world, else I'd be voting for Captain Paul Watson of the Sea Shepherd.

neverforget

(9,437 posts)
13. And the Jury spoke
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:52 AM
Jan 2016
On Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:39 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Help me with what I heard
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511067468

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Just eff off troll

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:50 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Not hide worthy at all.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Why is there an alert of this post?
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Just eff off troll" Is that the alert? Really? What's the reason this should be hidden other than being a newbie?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: An amusing interpretation.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think it's a little bit early to be throwing the label "troll" around. The folks responding to the thread are doing fine addressing this issue. If this low post-count poster is a troll, MIRT will get him/her soon enough.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

DVRacer

(707 posts)
14. Well my first alert after nearly a year
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:55 AM
Jan 2016

I'm ok with it please debate me on my context not my post count

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
23. You need to alert on the Jury results. The alerter, whoever it is, was way over the top,
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:15 AM
Jan 2016

And they will most likely get their jury privileges suspended.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
21. Yes, everything she says is designed to make you angry
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:23 AM
Jan 2016

to foment poutrage among her detractors.

What she said is completely true: there are millions of dollars spent against here spreading crap, spreading lies and that she can't do anything about that. She is going to keep going, not give up, and tell the truth. Now, some people aren't interested in any of that. They will declare everything she says a lie because she said it, and because they don't actually care about the truth, particularly in this age where too many decide truth not based on evidence but in relation to their own egos.

She is just going to keep getting up every day and putting one foot in front of the other and fight for the issues she cares about. That is what she has always done, and that is why people like you hate her so much. She doesn't let Karl Rove, Trey Gowdy, the Tea Party, half-wits or ratfuckers deter her. She marches on, and that is precisely why she is so disliked by those desperate to hold on to their own grip on power and/or privilege.

You see, the most formidable thing about Clinton is her perseverance. She has proven herself stronger than all the hate and misogyny directed against her. She is better, smarter, and more accomplished than any of her detractors. They hate because that is who they are. She works to try to make America a better place because that is who she is.


 
22. That's what I can't figure out...
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jan 2016

we gave George W. Bush such a hard time for getting caught in lie after lie - and rightfully so.

Then why are so many democrats turning a blind eye to Hillary Clinton's many documented lies? Aren't we supposed to be better?

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