2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe attacks never stop, but Hillary is still standing. I'm with her. We won't be erased.
Health Wagon
(99 posts)I'll go with the true frontrunner - Bernie Sanders.
840high
(17,196 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)on the IWR.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Kickaroo
Autumn
(45,120 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Hi anyway!
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Find someone who doesn't like turtles, who doesn't think turtles are cute. It ain't happening.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)run around the yard all summer.
frylock
(34,825 posts)albeit rather slower.
frylock
(34,825 posts)It's laughable that these people think they have any credibility outside of their safe havens and hate sites.
NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)... from the Iowa caucuses. And you're spending your time posting that same link to something I said in 2008.
I think that's rather telling - don't you? Do you think that if you bait me into a "hide", Bernie will fare better on Monday?
It's not happenin', bro. You can do your best to try and belittle me - and every other HRC-supporter here. But it ain't gonna get Bernie the nomination.
Sorry things aren't working out for you. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,818 posts)No, I don't - aside from the amusement factor, which I've already explained.
But as I said, sorry your well-laid plans didn't work out.
cali
(114,904 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)when you can help drag everyone else down?
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)And I respect your choices.
If she wins the nomination, she'll have my support as well.
Until then I favor a different candidate.
kjones
(1,053 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)That picture needs 10% more eagle.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)A very large place. In her lifetime, she's done worlds of good for lots of people.
I'm sorry.
It won't include her in the Oval Office.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)To pluck some numbers out of the air:
Democratic nominee:
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[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]Clinton
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]5/6
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[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]Sanders
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]1/6
Republican nominee:
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[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"] Trump
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]3/6
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[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]Cruz
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]2/6
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[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]Rubio
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]1/6
Odds on Democrat winning matchup
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[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Clinton
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Sanders
[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Trump
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]7/10
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]?5/10?
[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Cruz
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]5/10
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]2/10
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[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Rubio
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]3/10
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]1/10
Chance of being the next president:
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[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Clinton
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]170/360
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]=1/2ish
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[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Cruz
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]66/360
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]=1/5ish
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[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Trump
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]60/360
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]=1/6ish
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[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Rubio
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]44/360
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]=1/8ish
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[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Sanders
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]20/360
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]=1/20 ish
Now, obviously, those numbers are very, very sketchy - the only one with any authority behind it is the Clinton/Sanders one, which comes from 538. I'm probably being a bit pessimistic about Clinton/Trump, and a bit optimistic about both Democrats chances against Cruz, and I don't think anyone has any real handle on predicting the Republican primary or the Sanders/Trump matchup (if both parties pick simultaneously candidates who would usually be considered unelectable, who knows what will happen - Bloomberg?).
But the takeaway is that Clinton's odds of becoming the next president are not very dissimilar to 50%.
Perogie
(687 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)I am truly fearful that we might lose the White House because of Hillary's home grown email server. You can tell your self it does not matter that Top Secret info have been found on her home server you may think "no one will care" I am afraid this is wishful thinking in my opinion this issue will not be going away anytime soon. It is not an attack when someone points out the truth.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Email server should have never existed. She made it exist.
She should have turned over her work emails when she stepped down. She didn't, so now there's a FOIA lawsuit digging through everything in the server
...which found classified in the server. So now the FBI's investigating.
There'd be a hell of a lot fewer attacks if she'd stop blasting away at her feet.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Losing a political contest isn't erasure. I'm sure you'll be very disappointed if Hillary doesn't win, but both of you will still exist.
jonestonesusa
(880 posts)She's been running for president for 30 years. I would certainly expect a public profile by now that lasts more than a news cycle.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)dares talk they start bellowing "WE! WILL! NOT! BE! SILENCED!" in unison
SunSeeker
(51,698 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)I am!