2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Then they send me away, to teach me how to be sensible, logical, responsible, practical..."
"...and they showed me a world where I could be so dependable, clinical, intellectual, cynical."
"Now watch what you say, or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical, criminal,
Oh won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable..."
Many have forgotten the words to this song, but I have never have. It's an ode to idealism, lost. And an apt commentary on today's political system, is it not?
"The logical song."
elias49
(4,259 posts)don't aspire to a better life. Sad that so many Americans have be sheepified.
Something's gotta give.
Go big, or go home!
Go Bernie!
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)I remember. 😄
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Dreamers are those who make change happen, in the face of 'pragmatism' that proclaims 'No we can't.'
Dare to dream, or choose the 'safe' road that leads to mediocrity or worse.
mountain grammy
(26,648 posts)They'll be calling you a radical, liberal.... Yep, I remember.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Yep. The same one that keeps saying "No, we can't"
When I was young, it seemed that life was so wonderful,
A miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical.
And all the birds in the trees, well they'd be singing so happily,
Joyfully, playfully watching me.
But then they send me away to teach me how to be sensible,
Logical, responsible, practical.
And they showed me a world where I could be so dependable,
Clinical, intellectual, cynical.
There are times when all the world's asleep,
The questions run too deep
For such a simple man.
Won't you please, please tell me what we've learned
I know it sounds absurd
But please tell me who I am.
Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
Liberal, fanatical, criminal.
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're
Acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable!
At night, when all the world's asleep,
The questions run so deep
For such a simple man.
Won't you please, please tell me what we've learned
I know it sounds absurd
But please tell me who I am.
Songwriters: DAVIES, RICHARD / HODGSON, ROGER
The Logical Song lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)It's a powerful little song.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)the only sane position is to be a radical.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)What a message, that applies to well to today.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)GREAT songs like this back then! I'm a Boomer who has ALWAYS, even today followed music of each generation. Early on, we had a saying and I suppose it may not be universal, but down here in FL it was.
We called some the BEST music "Heavy Duty Dumb, Dumb" because our parents didn't quite understand "my generation!" I was always drawn to songs where the words had deep meaning for me, AND there were so many. I remember this one very well and LOVED it. I have many old albums from way back, even have a Bruce Springsteen album that's never been opened or played, Born In The USA album.
I was drawn to JACKSON BROWNE from the moment I heard "Doctor My Eyes" and while love so very many artists I call him my FAVORITE. I actually wore out several of his albums and had to replace them. I'm dating myself because that was the time of 8 tracks. But I always wanted the album too.
I have a folder that has the words of so many of his songs that I copied and printed out so that when I leave this earth my family can remember who and what I stood for.
But, thanks again... this is another GREAT!
alcina
(602 posts)Funny. Maybe it's going around.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)ms liberty
(8,596 posts)Such a great song. Definitely fits, doesn't it.
underpants
(182,877 posts)Because it had the best acoustics.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Many, many of his songs would fit right in with Bernie Sanders. "For America" is one I love, but here are so more.
ybbor
(1,555 posts)Bernie should use it in an ad.
My favorite part of the song is the "chirping" from the Mattel handheld football game from my youth. It is the sound for change of possession and is heard I believe three separate times in the song.
One the best albums of all time!
If you are familiar with it - Game Theory's "Lolita Nation" is finally being re-released on Feb 5th. My personal favorite album and in the top 5-10 in many critics' lists. The new release will have some covers, live performances, and demos.
ybbor
(1,555 posts)Thanks for the heads up
gvstn
(2,805 posts)Whether you like pop or not almost every song was memorable.
ybbor
(1,555 posts)The Statue of Liberty dressed as a diner waitress almost foretelling the move to an almost solely service economy.
But yes, every song is good. Been humming "ladadeeda, ladada ladeedeedadeeda, don't you look at my girlfriend" all morning.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)reminds me if some of my favorite kinks songs!
PFunk1
(185 posts)But to be honest I didn't actually really didn't actually liked the song until I finially got to read the songs words (I know weird-the same with Springsteen's "Born in the USA" and the Call's "The Walls Came Down." among others).
Jeff Murdoch
(168 posts)never paying attention to what the lyrics actually say.
Of course, the older I get, the more I like Otep's "Smash the Control Machine."
zeemike
(18,998 posts)It is a song I can relate too...one of my favorites.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)except I never knew it was Supertramp, I was introduced to Scooter's cover of it sometime when I was 13 or 14; and then a couple years ago, Mindless Self Indulgence covered it-- regardless, definitely feels like the appropriate song of the times.
asjr
(10,479 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Scooter is a FIXTURE with many Eurobeat DJs, I'd say.. But like I said, I never knew it was originally Supertramp's
treestar
(82,383 posts)following your dreams - so if your dream is to be President go for it.
If your dream is to convince other people, it's not working. Bernie's numbers have not gone any higher.
concreteblue
(626 posts)" Bernie's numbers have not gone any higher. "
Really? Since when? The first time this argument was trotted out 6 months ago? Or since this morning?
Smell the fear and loathing.......
treestar
(82,383 posts)in the polls. So this dream is not forthcoming. They don't always. It also does not work to simply reaffirm your wishes verbally each day. You have to convince other people.
It's so 60s and 70s rock star stuff - in the real world, you need confidence, but all the blathering in that song is unrealistic, and most people don't take rock lyrics seriously.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)keep the Vietnam war going. Yeah, that was so 60's and 70's rock star stuff. Rock music had a lot to do with ending that war.
And it's not just the words, try listening to a movie or even some TV shows without the soundtrack. Try listening to Holst's "The Planets" and see how many different emotions are brought out of you. Music is a powerful mood setter and communication tool.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)But some people are settlers.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I'm not still trying to be a rock star, and I don't think that is sad. In fact, I never tried it. It would be a fun life, I think. Then again, so many of them end up doing drugs.
I have dreams for myself, some realized, but when it comes to politics, that takes convincing other people. Bernie can dream all he wants, he still have about 30% of the vote on average and that isn't going to increase because he keeps dreaming of it. It can give you confidence, but it's oversimplified to insist on this dreams angle as the way he's going to win a primary in two days. By now other things have to have been done to realize your dream.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)As I tell people "I come from a long line of surly peasants"
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)stupid, but I've asked this question of many people I know... many not very technological, but I want to know how to transfer a uTube clip from where it's posted into a post of my own here, like you did above.
Can you give me a clue? Sorry, I can write and write and write, but I just haven't figured this out. I'm always so busy and maybe if I took some extra time I could figure it out... but call me lazy I would love the simple answer.
Many thanks if you can give me advice.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Paste into your post.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Someone's at my door, I'll be back and tell you what DOES come up. I can get the URL address, but not sure I'll get the picture.
Back later.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)ms liberty
(8,596 posts)I'll be watching this space...
ms liberty
(8,596 posts)I would also recommend Supertramp's first album, "Even in the Quietest Moments". It's the album that turned me on to them back in the late 70's as a high schooler, hanging out listening to music at a friend's house, while smoking copious amounts of the herb. The herb is much better now than it was then, lol. I have it on my IPOD and still listen to it regularly. The title song is hauntingly beautiful. Their music has aged very well.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...has been popping into my head a lot lately.
I wonder why this particular song has moved to the fore of what seems like many minds, of late? I guess it's in the subconscious ether.
As for the album Breakfast In America, it's one of my favorites of all time.