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flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:52 PM Sep 2012

Jim Webb Drops the Hammer on Romney


President Barack Obama is introduced by retiring Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., at a campaign event at Farm Bureau Live, Thursday, Sept. 27, 2012, in Virginia Beach, Va. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

Jim Webb Drops the Hammer on Romney

Jim Webb’s departures from party orthodoxy are frequent. As recently as last November, the retiring Virginia Democratic senator was reluctant to commit to campaigning for President Barack Obama.

So Webb’s bladework today on Mitt Romney was as unexpected as it was memorable.

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/09/webb-drops-the-hammer-on-romney-136858.html
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MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
2. I despise Jim Webb. Good riddance. Not that Tim Kaine will probably be much better if he beats Allen
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:59 PM
Sep 2012

Piling on Mitt Romney has no risks for Webb now.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. Jim was a Republican before he was a Democrat.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:01 PM
Sep 2012

He worked for the Mother of All Republicans, Saint Ronnie, as an ASN and SECNAV.

He's mellowed substantially since then.

This isn't just "bladework," it's a thorough evisceration:


Governor Romney and I are about the same age. Like millions of others in our generation we came to adulthood facing the harsh realities of the Vietnam War. 2.7 million in our age group went to Vietnam, a war which eventually took the lives of 58,000 young Americans and cost another 300,000 wounded. The Marine Corps lost 100,000 killed or wounded in that war. During the year I was in Vietnam, 1969, our country lost twice as many dead as we have lost in Iraq and Afghanistan combined over the past ten years of war. 1968 was worse. 1967 was about the same. Not a day goes by when I do not think about the young Marines I was privileged to lead.

This was a time of conscription, where every American male was eligible to be drafted. People made choices about how to deal with the draft, and about military service. I have never envied or resented any of the choices that were made as long as they were done within the law. But those among us who stepped forward to face the harsh unknowns and the lifelong changes that can come from combat did so with the belief that their service would be honored, and that our leaders would, in the words of President Abraham Lincoln, care for those who had borne the battle, and for their widows and their children.

Those young Marines that I led have grown older now. They’ve lived lives of courage, both in combat and after their return, where many of them were derided by their own peers for having served. That was a long time ago. They are not bitter. They know what they did. But in receiving veterans’ benefits, they are not takers. They were givers, in the ultimate sense of that word. There is a saying among war veterans: “All gave some, some gave all.” This is not a culture of dependency. It is a part of a long tradition that gave this country its freedom and independence. They paid, some with their lives, some through wounds and disabilities, some through their emotional scars, some through the lost opportunities and delayed entry into civilian careers which had already begun for many of their peers who did not serve.

And not only did they pay. They will not say this, so I will say it for them. They are owed, if nothing else, at least a mention, some word of thanks and respect, when a Presidential candidate who is their generational peer makes a speech accepting his party’s nomination to be Commander in Chief. And they are owed much more than that – a guarantee that we will never betray the commitment that we made to them and to their loved ones.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/09/webb-drops-the-hammer-on-romney-136858.html

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
4. Oh man. Thank you Senator Webb
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:12 PM
Sep 2012

That needed to be said, and there is no one better than him to say it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
5. “All gave some, some gave all.”
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:17 PM
Sep 2012

There is a huge contrast between draft dodger, Veteran ignoring Romney and our President and Mrs Obama with their years of love, devotion and hard work for Vets and their families.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
6. Great. Wish that he would have used Romney's name, and that Romney said "It's not my job top worry
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:18 PM
Sep 2012

about those people".

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
10. He didn't have to. The Red States are between a rock and a hard place
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 07:01 PM
Sep 2012

as the military is often their major employer/job program.

Rectangle

(667 posts)
8. Hey now, It was tough for Romney in the wine country of southern France!!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:36 PM
Sep 2012

There were no servants!
They had to do their own laundry!!
Leave him alone!
He's suffered enough!





Pisces

(5,599 posts)
9. THat is going to leave a mark. Wow!! This is brutal and anyone serving or who has served will
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 06:06 PM
Sep 2012

have to take notice of these words. Powerful.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
12. I enjoyed reading this article and was going to make a comment (which I did)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:37 PM
Sep 2012

but seems the RW loonies are sprouting some of the nastiest, filth I've seen within the comments.

Just makes you want to kick someone's arse - how dare any of them say this garbage. Couldn't help myself to making a few comments against that insanity.

OTOH there are some wonderful people commenting that are absolutely positive!

Well anyway, thanks for posting the story!!

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
14. K & R !!!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:51 PM
Sep 2012


<snip>

From Webb’s introductory remarks before Obama’s Virginia Beach appearance:

Governor Romney and I are about the same age. Like millions of others in our generation, we came to adulthood facing the harsh realities of the Vietnam War. 2.7 million in our age group went to Vietnam, a war which eventually took the lives of 58,000 young Americans and cost another 300,000 wounded. The Marine Corps lost 100,000 killed or wounded in that war. During the year I was in Vietnam, 1969, our country lost twice as many dead as we have lost in Iraq and Afghanistan combined over the past 10 years of war. 1968 was worse. 1967 was about the same. Not a day goes by when I do not think about the young Marines I was privileged to lead.

This was a time of conscription, where every American male was eligible to be drafted. People made choices about how to deal with the draft, and about military service. I have never envied or resented any of the choices that were made as long as they were done within the law. But those among us who stepped forward to face the harsh unknowns and the lifelong changes that can come from combat did so with the belief that their service would be honored, and that our leaders would, in the words of President Abraham Lincoln, care for those who had borne the battle, and for their widows and their children.

Those young Marines that I led have grown older now. They’ve lived lives of courage, both in combat and after their return, where many of them were derided by their own peers for having served. That was a long time ago. They are not bitter. They know what they did. But in receiving veterans’ benefits, they are not takers. They were givers, in the ultimate sense of that word. There is a saying among war veterans: “All gave some, some gave all.” This is not a culture of dependency. It is a part of a long tradition that gave this country its freedom and independence. They paid, some with their lives, some through wounds and disabilities, some through their emotional scars, some through the lost opportunities and delayed entry into civilian careers which had already begun for many of their peers who did not serve.

And not only did they pay. They will not say this, so I will say it for them. They are owed, if nothing else, at least a mention, some word of thanks and respect, when a presidential candidate who is their generational peer makes a speech accepting his party’s nomination to be commander-in-chief. And they are owed much more than that — a guarantee that we will never betray the commitment that we made to them and to their loved ones.

The attacks on Romney’s lack of military service and his failure to mention Afghanistan or Iraq in his convention speech aren’t new to the campaign, which is the first in 80 years without a military veteran on either major party’s ticket.


But coming from Webb — a voice for the white working class, a former Navy secretary and decorated Vietnam veteran whose son left college to enlist as an infantry private in the Marine Corps and fought in the Iraq War — his words carry a punch that few other Democratic surrogates can muster.

<snip>

From: http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/09/webb-drops-the-hammer-on-romney-136858.html?hp=l7


Zambero

(8,964 posts)
16. Very well put!
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:04 AM
Sep 2012

I hope Virginia voters get to see and hear this speech. Not many politicians possess the credibility to utter those words, but Senator Jim Webb would certainly be one of them. He put "Macaca George" away 6 years ago and it's good to see he still has the spirit. Independence notwithstanding, Webb is a class act and he will be sorely missed.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
17. And the war on right-wing delusional trolls on this speech still continues on this Politico piece.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:24 PM
Sep 2012

The wingers aren't winning it either, I'm happy to say.

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