elite ruling class of both parties.

And this is why Hillary will loose - unless it's rigged.....again.

Let's hope Trump scares even the oligarchs enough they want a sure fire winner in Bernie.

Microsoft says Trump, Clinton will win in the early primaries.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027576244

Are other corporations meddling at this level?

and Hillary will not. There's your answer.

pretended to be. Now I think they support Trump to the point of the general because they want him to scare people into accepting HRC their real choice. They know that Trump would be a lose cannon.

When's the last time a President was elected 80/20?

Adding single payer might have been nice for the Dems but it makes Hillary look like she nearly is: a republican

even the ones I know who do not agree with me....

She would win the Republican vote with that resume.

...which was still a good choice since that's the only retaliation that made sense.

This authority was given as far enough need to bring the combatants to justice from the information from what was known at the time.

The real information that seems to known about the time, on the fore-sure, that this is a fact, was that bush* was out of town (playing it safe) at an elementary school reading a book about goats. As to guessing (that's all that can be done with mountain of B.S. that was the 9/11 investigation) to what really went on, a coin toss could be appropriate

The attacks on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 resulted in a military conflict in Afghanistan that is still being fought to this day. Although Bernie Sanders voted in a symbolic debate to retroactively support the U.S. military engagement there, he has been appalled by the continued presence of the U.S. in Afghanistan, the resulting casualties, and the debt accrued over the long war.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-afghanistan/

Several days after 9/11.

I think Hil's toast.

thanks

eom

Maybe she should just go back to being one.

TRUTH

One marriage equality isn't the sum total of gay rights. She did oppose marriage equality, as did he, for longer than I would have liked. He opposed it until 2009, she until 2013. Other than that issue both have been in favor with her actually making it happen at state while he pretty much didn't as mayor. She opposes the TPP and she opposes Keystone.

There are parts of the chart that need to be updated perhaps. Regarding her position on the TPP, for example, here's Politifact:

I do not believe her on either. She had a hand in the design of the TPP and praised it to the hilt until her campaign saw that it could sink her with primary voters. The way she phrased her "opposition" was open-ended and did not sound final.

I know that Bernie's marriage equality position did not fully gel until 2009 and that although he came out many decades ago for full gay rights, he didn't focus on specific issues while mayor in the 1980s -- but it hadn't risen to public consciousness yet. Issues have to reach that point before elected officials begin to consider them.

A DUer gave me the long, sad history of the LGBT struggle for marriage equality, a struggle I hadn't known before. It is a moving account.

but she helped write the damned thing, and called it "The Gold Standard" in 2012.

The Senator from Vermont.

This doesn't attack Hillary, merely makes comparisons. What a wonderful handout this would be for undecideds.

I don't. only thing in that list I disagree with Bernie on.

They'd love or hate things in place of understanding the situation OF such things.

Personally, there are things people might disagree on, I'm sure, but they understand a thing or two from Bernie because it isn't flowered up or buried under piles of bullshit.

That I know we agree on.

how the HRC supporters continue to ignore the facts.

Is this really what they want!? Why!? I really do think it's all about her gender. A male democratic candidate with her record and her associations would have had to drop out of the race a long time ago.

. . . Hillary's a Republican!

Hark! I sense you are getting down on your bad self.

Real Clear politics, for all to see.

'Course, many votes ago, I could not believe that people could not see Nixon for what he was.....

Thanks, dixiegrrrrl.

i know bernie supports them. clinton is courting them for votes and support - yet, she supports the very corporations which are anti union and have pretty much succeeded in wiping them out in the workplace. kind of a hypocritical claim to allude one supports union workers when she supports anti union efforts.

Wait Hillary says she supports free contraception and better education. Wow. How brave.

Or they have no problem with them. Democrats cross a broad spectrum of views. A sizable percentage of Democrats are very conservative on one issue or another. We haven't been a liberal party for a long time--we've been pulled rightward. Hillary, is a center-right candidate which is where a majority of the party apparently feels comfortable. Bernie is on the left which is a tough place to be these days.

We can't, the planet can't, our grandkids surely can't.

From what I am seeing, Bernie, on the progressive side, is gaining a LOT of company every day.

What you say here, dixiegrrrrl!!!!!

We can't afford to wait. Now is the time, the ground swell has started.

Peace and a big K & R for your great post(s)

Bernie wipes the floor with Republicans in Iowa and New Hampshire. The two states where the majority of voters are most informed about the policies and viewpoints he espouses. Bernie's HUGE success in general election match ups against Republicans in Iowa and New Hampshire exposes the LIE that we have been sold for decades. A majority of Americans support just about every policy that Bernie supports. Progressive policies that most certainly are not center-right.

We need more Democrats like Bernie everywhere. Even in battleground states. They WILL win.

Bernie has to beat Hillary and The Establishment first, and the brainwashing, media apparatus, and political machinery might be too powerful to overcome which would be a tragedy. Bernie could help steer the Democratic Party towards a progressive future that CAN be elected. Hillary would do no such thing.

Here are Bernie's comments to the Guardian:

What do you think about the rest of Clinton's accurately presented record on these issues - and the similarities with Republican positions?

They don't think. Money rules their world. It's all about them, not US.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Bernie is what we thought Obama was going to be. There is no vision with Hillary just SOP. All you have to do is ask what has Hillary done compared to what Bernie has done for the PEOPLE. Hillary is all about Hillary.

the issues and the comparisons between the rightwing and Hillary how closely aligned they are and how refreshingly different Senator Sanders is from those positions....

I have 2 sons.

One of just informed me he is going for Hillary.

Happily, the other one has my sensibilities, and sees more clearly.