but still nothing technically wrong with either

Also they could be volunteers we don't know they are paid, just because Jeff Weaver said it doesn't make it true.

Jury actually agreed so I deleted it too quickly... 6-1 leave.

the ap for when to send hc to omalley is way more problematic

But I don't like caucuses they are blatantly undemocratic and disenfranchise voters.

Can't get a sitter? Can't vote.
Get a sitter? Sitter can't vote.
Work at a restaurant, closing shift? Can't vote.
Work in a retail store, closing shift? Can't vote.

It's just a broken system IMO, and using the app isn't really against the rules or the system. The whole point is to convince people to come to your candidate, the caucus videos I've seen are off the wall.

I'm glad I just walk into a booth and mark my vote on paper with a sharpie, it's great.

no matter what the final outcome.

had weather issues. I guess the Clinton campaign couldn't find a resident willing to be precinct captain for Hillary in that precinct.

Who knows.

That's exactly what you want in a Campaign Manager, isn't it?

Sid

And it's noticeable, too.

into thinking Hillary's doing something nefarious.

This is not the first time a campaign has been accused of bringing non-residents to Iowa ahead of the caucus. During Clinton’s unsuccessful 2008 presidential bid, her staff charged Barack Obama’s team was “systematically trying to manipulate the Iowa caucuses with out of state people.” In light of the disputed letter, Weaver said it was “ironic that the Clinton campaign in the past has suggested that President Obama somehow packed the 2008 caucus with out of state people.”

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/sanders-campaign-cites-alarming-signs-clinton-020552922.html

How it that stacking the caucus?
For Jeff Weaver to do this, knowing he has out-of-state volunteers, I think that is hypocritical.

Maybe I don't understand enough, but basing this complaint on one letter of one out-of-state captain, when it's not even illegal to do it?

Or is it if he's paid? Didn't Steve say he couldn't do it legally if he was paid or something...I'll have to go find his thread now.

I can't wait till tomorrow night. Things are really getting crazy.

On edit...what Steve said:

Good Lord.

Because he is... Any intelligent campaign is doing this.

Is this your first election?

Sounds like it.

This is going to be an ugly and long drawn out process if Sanders does not win.

Expect this anywhere he does not win.

The agita over petty nonsense is at a fucking eleven.

who aren't precinct residents if there's no ID requirement to get in?

good about the Clinton campaign in 2016.

Just like she accused Obama. It's a Republican strategy - accuse your opponent of what you're doing.

Bernie was not amused.

using out of state help is not

bernie was correct to be upset

There is a new thread here that asks what excuses will come from Hillary's supporters when she loses the caucuses.

Jeff Weaver offers his campaign's standard excuse. Hillary cheated. It's the only way she could possibly win

"but Weaver, who admitted he wasn’t familiar with the rules"

and contact a person about doing so. I've never seen such dishonesty and loathsome establishment propaganda.

asking for their support in caucuses. They would be stupid to limit their letters to committed voters, and Bernie's campaign is anything but stupid.

Bernie's campaign is sending similar letters to Hillary leaners. If they weren't, it would be campaign malpractice.

Weaver's just trying to get the gullible all riled up against Hillary.

It's called campaigning.

We must pay attention

I will stand on the right side of history in the end

broke any rules."

Welcome to caucus country, Jeff Weaver.

I keep telling everyone: caucuses are anything but Democratic. Horse trading is the norm. There is no such thing as secret ballots or one-person, one-vote.

They are often run by inexperienced volunteers who know almost nothing, and there is no rule that precinct captains must come from the precinct.

Every state should get rid of these archaic events and join the rest of the country in using primaries. Including my state, which - like Iowa -- is stupidly clinging to caucuses.

But OF COURSE all three candidates are sending letters to all registered voters, whether they are leaning toward that candidate or not.

How naive are some Bernie supporters? Or do they just think undecided voters are really stupid?

DNC dirty tricks never cease to surpass my worst expectations.

with your nothingburger?

Out of state or non-local staffers are acting as 'precinct captains', who, while they apparently don't actually vote themselves, are probably expected to be locals by other locals, and therefore help influence the actual voters. So rather than training actual locals who are enthused about Hillary, Hillary pulls in her most enthusiastic and best trained folks from anywhere and sticks them in where they'll work the best for her.

Same old 'it depends what is, is' politicking from the Clintons. Not technically illegal, but certainly going against the spirit of how the caucuses were designed.