She sounded really passionate and convincing about it too. After watching this I wonder if she would even sign single payer if it hit her desk as president.

Hillary knows how to work the system and that's about it, there is only so much time to learn things in a life and she has spent her life learning how to work the system, not figuring out how other things work.

I screwed up the other day and used a similar phrase, we can all learn new tricks.

It is chilling though.

Her rhetoric, and the context in which it is used, shows a lack of social grace and awkward display of emotional development. The giggle tells me, she knows better, but can't help herself.

describe a Democratic man's laugh?

Never.

Most men have deeper laughs than most women. Your comment is sexist and you should delete.

on whose behalf is this vehemence that single-payer WILL NOT HAPPEN?

It's one thing to opine it's not a realistic goal in the short term. And I take no issue with suggesting we tune and polish the ACA in the meantime.

But no one is actually this determined we cross out and totally discard the world's proven-best approach to health care. The one employed by all other wealthy democracies.

No one but the health insurance industry.

Is that where she's coming from? I don't accuse -- I'm really asking.

Because otherwise, it makes no sense to me to frame a single-payer healthcare system as not just a challenge; not just a long term vs short-term goal, but as some kind of unthinkable anathema.

Weird.