2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie should start using what Michael Moore used to describe democratic socialism:
"So, what is democratic socialism? Its having a true democracy where everyone has a seat at the table, where everyone has a voice, not just the rich."
SamKnause
(13,107 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)gyroscope
(1,443 posts)not sure what planet you are from
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)gyroscope
(1,443 posts)that is called a proposal, position, point of view, which every politician has to explain.
it is a meaningless label unless you explain it.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)gyroscope
(1,443 posts)so every candidate has a chance to explain themselves and their ideas very thoroughly.
the ones who fail to explain and convey their position very clearly are the ones who will lose. its not hard.
the one who lacks a clear vision is the one who loses (see 2008).
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... and not let go.
Sanders can explain all day long...
Sanders will be labeled just as bad as Hillary will be
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)they both beat Trump one on one, Sanders by a wider margin.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)a Cheney type and other right-wing opportunists actually running the country.
For me, voting for Bernie Sanders is like flipping a coin with the nation's future. You say Sanders losing the primary is not an option. I say the Democratic candidate losing the White House is not an option.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... bad with Sanders.
After that poor outline of an SP plan came out he's not showing he's head and shoulders above Hillary, his supporters are letting perfect be the enemy of good or adequate
It's much better to just let your opponent "explain" it for you.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)not explaining yourself and letting the other side take control of the conversation is a sure path to defeat.
ancianita
(36,074 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... votes was for wall street and not the people...
that'll be thrown up in his face constantly
ancianita
(36,074 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... "No Down Payment" act was the one that put them together.
Sanders voted for CFMA... it was a really dumb vote, it took the feds off regulating the CDS's and CDO's so the banks can sell all the MBS's they wanted with no regulation behind their value...
The banks set the value and let the high risks float for nearly THREE YEARS because of the CFMA...
I've yet to hear an explanation of that vote
ancianita
(36,074 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Thanks, Michael.
merrily
(45,251 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... and I've heard this over and over again about Obama
FDR had an avg of 70% dems in congress MINIMUM through his TERM(s) as president.
You can't get that kind of legislation past a congress who doesn't have to because they're historically gerrymandered into their seats
That's why Sanders message sounds like pixy dust politics; promising everything except a well thought out plan on getting this crap past congress!!
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)But then, it takes a lot of little donors to make one big one.
If they are invested, they surely have a voice. Sadly, a very republican one that drowns out any insignificant attempts at personal responsibility towards our shared democracy that they may undertake.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)He couldn't have explained why Bernie is the best candidate to be our president any better than he did...with visual graphic included!
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