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(85,998 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:33 AM Feb 2016

Martin O'Malley insists he won't play Iowa kingmaker, tells supporters "hold strong"

Bridget Mulcahy @bridgetmulc
@MartinOMalley: Voting becoming "merely an act of protest rather than a creative choice" http://bit.ly/1RVCQaQ




Governor Martin O'Malley sits down with POLITICO's Glenn Thrush in Johnston, Iowa, to discuss what motivates him to keep campaigning despite low poll numbers, his parents' influence on his political career, the Celtic punk band The Pogues and why voting has become an "act of protest."

Listen: https://soundcloud.com/off-message/martin-omalley-insists-he-wont-play-iowa-kingmaker-tells-supporters-hold-strong


Glenn Thrush ?@GlennThrush
@MartinOMalley: HELL NO to role of caucus kingmaker - thinks supporters will skip 2nd ballot, snub Hillary/Bernie http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/martin-omalley-iowa-caucuses-sanders-clinton-218486

JOHNSTON, Iowa — Martin O’Malley may get soundly defeated by Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders here on Monday, but he won’t be a pawn in their game.

O’Malley, a chipper long-shot who has been driving his own car when his volunteers get too groggy, is rejecting his role as an Iowa caucus kingmaker— telling his supporters here they don’t have to vote for either Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders if he’s excluded from the final round of voting Monday night.

“The people who have stuck with me, the friends that I have… I think they are pretty resolute in their support for me,” he said during POLITICO’s “Off Message” podcast, which will be released Monday morning.

When I asked him if he was encouraging his backers to stick with him for the duration of the caucus, he said, “Yes,” adding, “My message to them is to hold strong.”

But O’Malley, tired but defiant as he paused between events on Sunday, said “many” of his backers have told him, “I’m caucusing for you and if we are not viable, I’m going home… This is a democratic process, people make their own free choices, but it’s my sense… there’s not a whole lot of enthusiasm going into the second round for the other two.”

O’Malley conceded that Clinton and Sanders would pick up some of his supporters, but he said that he was likely to poach more than a few Clintonites at college campus caucus sites where he and Sanders were the most popular candidates.

“It’s very possible that on college campuses we actually outperform Secretary Clinton and are neck and neck with Sanders...”


read: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/martin-omalley-iowa-caucuses-sanders-clinton-218486
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Martin O'Malley insists he won't play Iowa kingmaker, tells supporters "hold strong" (Original Post) bigtree Feb 2016 OP
K & R. n/t FSogol Feb 2016 #1
Absolutely!! Peacetrain Feb 2016 #2
Good. KittyWampus Feb 2016 #3
Puzzling speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #4
Ain't it the sad truth (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #6
Good for him.. Fumesucker Feb 2016 #5
It's not a matter of holding strong Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 #7
it means this bigtree Feb 2016 #10
Another issue here is firebrand80 Feb 2016 #8
Hold strong O'Malleyites! alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #9
Is his message to hold strong because he's doing Hillary a favor, to call in later? JudyM Feb 2016 #11
that would only make sense if he believed his campaign was make or break in Iowa bigtree Feb 2016 #12
Except that in precincts where he doesn't hit the 15% threshold he has nothing to lose by his JudyM Feb 2016 #13
Best way to be Blue_Adept Feb 2016 #14
kick bigtree Feb 2016 #15

Funtatlaguy

(10,879 posts)
7. It's not a matter of holding strong
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:57 AM
Feb 2016

If there are MOM people at a precinct that don't equal 15% of those there, they are asked to do the following: move to another group, go home, or stay as uncounted/undeclared.

Saying to "stand strong" sounds good I suppose, but it doesn't mean anything.

For what it's worth, I think the 15% threshold is ridiculous and violates one person/one vote.
Caucuses suck.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
8. Another issue here is
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:57 AM
Feb 2016

how many O'Malley supporters actually show up.

My guess is that he'll underperform his polling numbers. Some folks that like him will wonder if it's worth it to spend their entire night on someone that has next to 0% chance of winning. Undoubtedly some will answer that question in the negative and stay home.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
11. Is his message to hold strong because he's doing Hillary a favor, to call in later?
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 12:26 PM
Feb 2016

Makes no sense for O'Malley supporters to have their caucus vote not count at all (in cases of not aggregating to 15%). If their presence isn't going to count, they should go with their 2nd choice!

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
12. that would only make sense if he believed his campaign was make or break in Iowa
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 12:33 PM
Feb 2016

...if he's still running a campaign, why should he be expected to aid either candidate, except in some backhanded scheme to deter one or the other?

What you suggest about his intention to aid Hillary would take some pretty artful maneuvering, even if it was some remote possibility. O'Malley's campaign is still active and Hillary and Bernie are still his rivals in this primary.

That's how he wants his supporters to treat the caucuses. Make a stand for O'Malley, and hold there. If they don't achieve viability, he's asking them to resist playing spoiler.




Greg Margida ?@realgregmargida 56m56 minutes ago
These posters appeared all over Grinnell College this morning! Students ready to #HoldStrong for @MartinOMalley

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
13. Except that in precincts where he doesn't hit the 15% threshold he has nothing to lose by his
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:23 PM
Feb 2016

supporters going over to their 2nd choice, in that precinct.

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