2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumStop Comparing Trump and Sanders: The Two Candidates Aren't Equal and Opposite Radicals
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/stop-comparing-trump-and-sanders-two-candidates-arent-equal-and-opposite-radicals?akid=13935.1947869.R1daKi&rd=1&src=newsletter1049911&t=8Both candidates' supporters are fed up with their country, but the sources of their rage are radically different.
This brings us to the current election cycle. As the most recent Democratic debate demonstrated, Sanders is practically monomaniacal in his focus on the problem of income inequality in America. Whether hes discussing the importance of raising the minimum wage, proposing a substitute for Obamacare that would guarantee free health coverage for everyone, or advocating policies that would lower college tuition and student loan rates, all of his positions are bound by a common thread. Sanders sees an America that, despite proclaiming itself the land of opportunity, is clearly rigged to offer better opportunities for the affluent than the poor. Similarly, despite its nickname as the land of the free, Sanders vocalizes a widespread outrage at the notion that anyone can have a freedom worth having while languishing in insurmountable poverty. Listening to his rhetoric, one hears undeniable echoes of Franklin Roosevelts famous Economic Bill of Rights:
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)exboyfil
(17,863 posts)more like Rand Paul. We don't have a Cruz or Trump on our side in this election. I am sorry I got to say that our opposite number to Rubio is Hillary Clinton. I really think both are opportunists. At the end of the day I will hold my nose and vote for her in the general election, but I am not happy about it.
Going to caucus for Bernie tonight. Taking my 18 year old daughter. At least he is willing to talk about the important issues and put out proposals for discussion.
Remember Tsongas and the the pander bear. I am getting that feeling again.
SamKnause
(13,107 posts)I can't keep up.
Bernie is Bernie.
There is no other candidate in this race to compare him to.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... that the message isn't not reaching the masses and for Sanders the poor are more attracted to Hillary...
That's counter Sanders message
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)...but low-to-moderate information voters believe Trump and Sanders are somehow equivalent, being "anti-establishment."
The Sunday NYT front page tried to push this crap just yesterday; it's not true.
Bernie may not prevail, but that's not the fault of his message; it's an indictment of our political awareness and how low it's sunk.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... asterisks and pixie dust politics that gives more marketing spiel than real concrete answers on how shit is going to get done.
Sanders and Trumps "revolutions" aren't for everyone, the poor and disenfranchised are supporting Hillary on the dem side and the moderates in the GOP are just not supporting any of the nut cases.
That's how those campaigns are mostly alike
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)because it sure as hell ain't in the streets like a real revolution would be!
Not that the way this country is run doesn't suck balls, I agree.
But actual revolutions start from the bottom up, not the other way around.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... on keyboards.
Sanders says this is not about him but it looks like the revolution goes no where without him
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Bernies "revolution" is just a recycled Ron Paul slogan for cryin out loud! LOL
Remember that s**t?? LOL
Its also a big clue where the hardcore bernie bros came from if a person has eyes in his head!