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ashling

(25,771 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 12:22 PM Feb 2016

Stop Comparing Trump and Sanders: The Two Candidates Aren't Equal and Opposite Radicals

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/stop-comparing-trump-and-sanders-two-candidates-arent-equal-and-opposite-radicals?akid=13935.1947869.R1daKi&rd=1&src=newsletter1049911&t=8

Both candidates' supporters are fed up with their country, but the sources of their rage are radically different.



When you reflect on the nature of that anger, however, a crucial distinction between the two candidates emerges: Sanders is drawing on a compassionate anger, while Trump is fanning the flames of a selfish anger. This may seem like a small difference, but it’s one that will literally determine the fate of millions.


This brings us to the current election cycle. As the most recent Democratic debate demonstrated, Sanders is practically monomaniacal in his focus on the problem of income inequality in America. Whether he’s discussing the importance of raising the minimum wage, proposing a substitute for Obamacare that would guarantee free health coverage for everyone, or advocating policies that would lower college tuition and student loan rates, all of his positions are bound by a common thread. Sanders sees an America that, despite proclaiming itself the “land of opportunity,” is clearly rigged to offer better opportunities for the affluent than the poor. Similarly, despite its nickname as the “land of the free,” Sanders vocalizes a widespread outrage at the notion that anyone can have a freedom worth having while languishing in insurmountable poverty. Listening to his rhetoric, one hears undeniable echoes of Franklin Roosevelt’s famous Economic Bill of Rights:

“We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence.”

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exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
2. Bernie's opposite number is someone
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 12:49 PM
Feb 2016

more like Rand Paul. We don't have a Cruz or Trump on our side in this election. I am sorry I got to say that our opposite number to Rubio is Hillary Clinton. I really think both are opportunists. At the end of the day I will hold my nose and vote for her in the general election, but I am not happy about it.

Going to caucus for Bernie tonight. Taking my 18 year old daughter. At least he is willing to talk about the important issues and put out proposals for discussion.

Remember Tsongas and the the pander bear. I am getting that feeling again.

SamKnause

(13,107 posts)
3. I just read an article that compared Bernie to Cruz.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:06 PM
Feb 2016

I can't keep up.

Bernie is Bernie.

There is no other candidate in this race to compare him to.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
4. They're both proffering revolutions with asterisks... you can tell by who's attracted to them
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:08 PM
Feb 2016

... that the message isn't not reaching the masses and for Sanders the poor are more attracted to Hillary...

That's counter Sanders message

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
5. It's hard to understand exactly what you just wrote..
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:14 PM
Feb 2016

...but low-to-moderate information voters believe Trump and Sanders are somehow equivalent, being "anti-establishment."

The Sunday NYT front page tried to push this crap just yesterday; it's not true.


Bernie may not prevail, but that's not the fault of his message; it's an indictment of our political awareness and how low it's sunk.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
7. What I posted is easy to read... Sanders and Trump are both pushing the same revolutions with
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:21 PM
Feb 2016

... asterisks and pixie dust politics that gives more marketing spiel than real concrete answers on how shit is going to get done.

Sanders and Trumps "revolutions" aren't for everyone, the poor and disenfranchised are supporting Hillary on the dem side and the moderates in the GOP are just not supporting any of the nut cases.

That's how those campaigns are mostly alike

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
6. The revolution is in their minds
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:16 PM
Feb 2016

because it sure as hell ain't in the streets like a real revolution would be!

Not that the way this country is run doesn't suck balls, I agree.

But actual revolutions start from the bottom up, not the other way around.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
8. +1, very very well said!!! OWS was revolution, REAL revolution too... in the streets and not
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:25 PM
Feb 2016

... on keyboards.

Sanders says this is not about him but it looks like the revolution goes no where without him

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
9. Agreed
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:30 PM
Feb 2016

Bernies "revolution" is just a recycled Ron Paul slogan for cryin out loud! LOL



Remember that s**t?? LOL

Its also a big clue where the hardcore bernie bros came from if a person has eyes in his head!

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