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Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:20 PM Feb 2016

Showing up on Twitter right now: #VoteBlueNoMatterWho

Some interesting images showing up, too (I'll link to them to save bandwidth):

https://twitter.com/esd2000/status/694202526179139584

https://twitter.com/lessguns/status/689905868910006273

https://twitter.com/VoteBlueAlways/status/693836337972154368

https://twitter.com/JOEL5H/status/692225162561851392

https://twitter.com/malasadasbooks/status/689704605165301760


Full disclosure, if I could vote in a US election, I'd be feeling the Bern in a big way, but there's no way to pretend that if Hillary got the nom, that Rubio, Paul, Cruz, or Trump would make a better leader. No way at all. Hillary may be more of same, but the alternative is almost totally unconscionable.

Check out the hastag #VoteBlueNoMatterWho and SUPPORT your candidate, don't TEAR DOWN the other. And yes, supporters on both sides are doing it.

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Showing up on Twitter right now: #VoteBlueNoMatterWho (Original Post) Saviolo Feb 2016 OP
Great, honest effort. Those links should be posted everywhere. eom mikehiggins Feb 2016 #1
Trying not to sound too much... Saviolo Feb 2016 #2
Right on. jcgoldie Feb 2016 #3
Thanks. Saviolo Feb 2016 #4
Word alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #5
What is positive about Hillary? VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #6
^This. AzDar Feb 2016 #7
So then my question is: Saviolo Feb 2016 #8
I can't stomach the idea of voting for Hillary. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #9
Is your district "safe" for someone? Saviolo Feb 2016 #10
Republican anyway. So really, my vote wouldn't bloody matter at the end of the day VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #11
If you're in a safe republican stronghold... Saviolo Feb 2016 #12
It pisses me off, but at the same time, I was born there, and assuming I'm still alive by the end VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #13

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
2. Trying not to sound too much...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

... like a scolding mom, but the tribalism is painful to watch. Watching from Canada up here, and the same sort of thing is bleeding into our politics, too. It's discouraging, and I think that's a huge problem overall. It discourages people from voting at all, because if their candidate doesn't win, they don't have another candidate to vote for, only the negative construction they've had presented to them. On the other hand, if both sides just built up their own candidate, then if one candidate doesn't win, the other still has positive things to point to, instead of only negative.

Let's not discourage Democratic voters!

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
4. Thanks.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:07 PM
Feb 2016

A flawed candidate on the Democratic ticket is better than any of the ogres banging the war drums on the other side.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
6. What is positive about Hillary?
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:10 PM
Feb 2016

All I've got is more reasons to oppose her than I have fingers. Way I see things, I don't have a party because the closest thing to what I am doesn't have a counterpart in America, and likely will never have a counterpart in America-- helped in part thanks to Hillary's support for the PATRIOT Act and mandating forced backdoors through encryption.

So what's my silver lining? The country'll go in the same direction from where I stand one way or another. It'll just take a little shorter to get there if it's a legitimate republican instead of a republican-lite.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
8. So then my question is:
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

If Bernie fails to get the nomination, will you then not vote for Hillary? Because if you stay home and not vote for the Democratic ticket, you are voting for Rubio/Paul/Cruz/Trump, or whoever gets the republican nom.

As I said, I think Hillary's problematic, she's not the perfect democratic candidate on big money and corporate control, but she's not even in the same ballpark as the republican ticket.

I so want to see Bernie go all the way, but if Hillary gets the nomination, please consider a vote against the republicans, regardless.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
9. I can't stomach the idea of voting for Hillary.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

She is literally the antithesis of everything I believe in-- but I hardly believe in staying home. I'm likely just going to write in for an independent, if the Texas absentee ballot will let me.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
10. Is your district "safe" for someone?
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

Is it likely that one party or another is pretty much guaranteed to win in your district, or is it a swing district? Because having a Democratic candidate in office over the next four years vs. a Republican could mean a great deal vis a vis the Supreme Court, etc...

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
11. Republican anyway. So really, my vote wouldn't bloody matter at the end of the day
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:57 PM
Feb 2016

it's more or less a comfort thing.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
12. If you're in a safe republican stronghold...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

That's totally fair. Also frustrating, I know. I've been in the same situation.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
13. It pisses me off, but at the same time, I was born there, and assuming I'm still alive by the end
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:01 PM
Feb 2016

of my enlistment, Texas at least adores its veterans. Honestly, I at least hope I'm alive to see the end of gerrymandering, even if that's a madly unlikely possibility.

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