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Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:26 PM Feb 2016

Matthews just asked some Clinton advocate (Joel Benenson) a great question

"Trump's motto is 'Make America Great Again'. What is Hillary's motto?"

Mumble and stumble.

Bernie and Trump have been killing it on message. The lack of message is damaging to Hillary.

Matthews thinks she will win.

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Matthews just asked some Clinton advocate (Joel Benenson) a great question (Original Post) Renew Deal Feb 2016 OP
No we can't? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #1
+1 fleur-de-lisa Feb 2016 #3
Yes we can! She's continuing Obama's legacy. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #4
No, she's not. Obama was the yes we can candidate just like Bernie. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #6
I believe you. You are always honest with me. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #11
LOL riversedge Feb 2016 #27
Did you believe your candidate when she said she dodged sniper fire? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #30
No, we can't notadmblnd Feb 2016 #9
Si Se Puede! nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #12
Nope, it's too hard notadmblnd Feb 2016 #14
Are we still friends despite our differences? nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #15
I don't take anyting on the internet personal, So yeah, I got no hard feelings towards anyone online notadmblnd Feb 2016 #18
You are a good person. Thank you friend. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #20
Thank you. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #21
Tweety is a Corporatist stooge and has been Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #2
Totally agree. We can't stand him and he's not all that, intellectually, either. Peregrine Took Feb 2016 #22
It's No, we can't! notadmblnd Feb 2016 #5
Because having a slogan beats having policies? stopbush Feb 2016 #7
Message is hugely important in politics (and marketing) Renew Deal Feb 2016 #10
No Idea Too Small Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #8
It's My Turn! whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #13
LOL tk2kewl Feb 2016 #17
a month or two ago it was "May The Force be with you" tk2kewl Feb 2016 #16
Fitting Slogans for the Hillary Campaign. Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #19
Pretty funny nt Depaysement Feb 2016 #29
"It'll Never, Ever Happen" Kall Feb 2016 #23
I recall in 2008, a politcal observer I knew back then SheilaT Feb 2016 #24
slogan: NO, WE CAN'T. she told the AMERICAN PEOPLE that. SHE IS MY QUEEN !! Hiraeth Feb 2016 #25
Wallstreet lives matter! nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #26
You win! Depaysement Feb 2016 #28
Hill made it so easy. Can't understand why her folks are having nc4bo Feb 2016 #35
FUCK HOPE! nt SDJay Feb 2016 #31
'Cut it out'?? sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #32
Indicative of an aimless campaign Z_California Feb 2016 #33
You nearly forgot about xeroxing your honest opponent's campaign nc4bo Feb 2016 #34
I think it's "I'm ready!" underpants Feb 2016 #36

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
6. No, she's not. Obama was the yes we can candidate just like Bernie.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:29 PM
Feb 2016

All she's done is snark and complain about how Bernie wants too much for us.

It's a real turn off.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
14. Nope, it's too hard
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:35 PM
Feb 2016

And Clinton doesn't want to work hard for change. She and her supporters like things just the way they are.

Peregrine Took

(7,414 posts)
22. Totally agree. We can't stand him and he's not all that, intellectually, either.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:48 PM
Feb 2016

We watch CNN now - MSNBC sucks - even Chris Hayes has crossed over to the dark side. Laurence is the best of a weak bunch'

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
10. Message is hugely important in politics (and marketing)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:31 PM
Feb 2016

And usually the candidate with the stronger and more widespread message wins. The message that she has gotten out is experience. Some people have jumped onto that.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
24. I recall in 2008, a politcal observer I knew back then
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:53 PM
Feb 2016

who was quite savvy, said that Hillary's logo then, her name with a sort of American flag scroll underneath, didn't really mean much of anything, especially compared to Obama's.

While the logos aren't seen as important, it may well be they are much more influential, albeit at a more subconscious level, than anyone quite understands.

A big red arrow pointing to the right? I think it actually does signal her position to the right of most everything the Democratic party stands for. Bernie with the blue and red curvy lines below simply feels much friendlier. It's a serif font, Times New Roman, I think, which is generally considered very readable. The sharp lines of the H, and with the rather aggressive arrow, just don't warm the cockles of my heart, although that may be just me. And turning the arrow to point left would not be that much of an improvement.

Z_California

(650 posts)
33. Indicative of an aimless campaign
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:04 PM
Feb 2016

How telling is it that a surrogate appearing on national TV can't immediately answer that question?

From a purely political standpoint, HRC's campaign has been a dumpster fire and this is at the heart of it. There is no purpose or theme. Most of the "strategy" revolves around advancing misleading smears against the opposition and pulling dirty political dirty tricks.

"Vote for me because it's my turn". There is no vision of a better future.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
34. You nearly forgot about xeroxing your honest opponent's campaign
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:13 PM
Feb 2016

Within weeks sometimes days or hours after the opponent made the comment.

She is also the Meeeee-too candidate!

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