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pandr32

(11,588 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:46 PM Feb 2016

"Buyer's Remorse" A book that criticizes President Obama endorsed by Sanders

As a democrat who is proud of President Obama, I find Sanders' recommendation of the book displayed clearly on its cover to be rather offensive. It seems to be a recommendation from Sanders the Independent, and not Sanders the Democrat who is vying to become the leader of our party and the successor of President Obama and his legacy.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/bernie-sanders-lends-his-support-to-new-book-that-attacks-president-obama/23718/

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"Buyer's Remorse" A book that criticizes President Obama endorsed by Sanders (Original Post) pandr32 Feb 2016 OP
Bernie's quote is out of context. uberblonde Feb 2016 #1
completely dana_b Feb 2016 #7
Thank you. I knew there must have been more to it. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #16
given that he gave us the TPP by siding with Republicans to do it, yeah. I have buyer's roguevalley Feb 2016 #19
me too. Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #22
So why is he claiming President Obama did not? treestar Feb 2016 #24
K & R for exposure. nt SunSeeker Feb 2016 #2
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS PERFECT. THE FIRST PERFECT PRESIDENT EVER AND HILLARY IS MY QUEEN Hiraeth Feb 2016 #3
Buyers Remorse..... Trojan Horse...... NCTraveler Feb 2016 #4
Seeing that quote makes me question many things. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #5
You should question more things... Armstead Feb 2016 #8
obama was at best center right, a real disappointment to those who expected change bowens43 Feb 2016 #6
Center right for DU; but, not for the Democratic Party or Partisan politics, in general. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #30
Do you disagree with this? TCJ70 Feb 2016 #9
Not the smartest thing for Bernie to do Armstead Feb 2016 #10
AAh If Obama wasn't going to be gone soon I would read this book! m-lekktor Feb 2016 #11
I think the willingness to constructively criticize the President is a good thing. Maedhros Feb 2016 #12
Bernie does not inherit the "Obama legacy." immoderate Feb 2016 #13
That book looks interesting. H2O Man Feb 2016 #14
You are welcome pandr32 Feb 2016 #21
Another recycled hit piece from the soap opera actress/blogger at the dailytrashbin? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #15
There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #17
I wonder how many people have actually read this book they are so quick to assume slams Obama Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #18
We now have to agree with Obama 100% on everything or we are "offensive". That's today's memo. arcane1 Feb 2016 #29
This is an excellent book! dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #20
The title alone should have given anyone with sense some pause. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #23
Ummm...wha? n/t TCJ70 Feb 2016 #28
Man, people will invent outrage over the silliest of things. Your "offense" is purely manufactured. arcane1 Feb 2016 #25
Hey this is gonna help Bernie out in those workinclasszero Feb 2016 #26
The Sanders campaign bet/decided long ago ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #33
So Obama didn't trick everyone by pretending to be the president for the people rather than the.. AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #27
Ok.... pangaia Feb 2016 #31
All you have to do is look at his selection floriduck Feb 2016 #32
As one who is not sold on either candidate at this point, that book is a GREAT read. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #34

uberblonde

(1,215 posts)
1. Bernie's quote is out of context.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

And the title is kind of misleading. Press is saying Obama made a mistake by not harnessing the power of his supporters to get things done.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
7. completely
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:59 PM
Feb 2016

“Bill Press makes the case why, long after taking the oath of office, the next president of the United States must keep rallying the people who elected him or her on behalf of progressive causes. That is the only way real change will happen. Read this book.” - Bernie

Must KEEP rallying - so evidently he believes that Obama has done at least SOME rallying. Also - I agree with Press. Obama has not lived up to all of the progressive promises - but that's not to say that Obama is some kind of progressive failure. Anyway, Bernie's quote is being taken out of context here.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
22. me too.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:15 PM
Feb 2016

(if implemented) TPP is the worst of it but there are other problems also.

Mostly Obama checked out and started trying to appease the fascists rather than use his early political capital and his motivated base.

I expect Hillary to do the same.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. So why is he claiming President Obama did not?
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:19 PM
Feb 2016

He's also wrong. You have to work with Congress at that point.

Showing that like his supporters, Bernie also engages in magical thinking. The People go back to their jobs after the election. If they weren't going to stay in election mode and march on the capital for Obama, they won't do it for Bernie. Though we'll never know as Bernie will never be POTUS.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
9. Do you disagree with this?
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:00 PM
Feb 2016

"Long after taking the oath of office, the next president of the United States must keep rallying the people who elected him or her on behalf of progressive causes. That is the only way real change will happen."

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
11. AAh If Obama wasn't going to be gone soon I would read this book!
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:03 PM
Feb 2016

Soon he will be irrelevant so I'm not that interested in reading it to so much! Not all of us think Obama is above criticism like so many of you seem to imply ESPECIALLY those of us who are TIRED of right wing Democrats!

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
12. I think the willingness to constructively criticize the President is a good thing.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:03 PM
Feb 2016

Lockstep leader worship is for Republicans.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
13. Bernie does not inherit the "Obama legacy."
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:04 PM
Feb 2016

Both Obama and Hillary praise Reagan and follow his ideology. Bernie does not do that. With some lip service to the populous, they will never do anything to hurt their corporate base.

--imm

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
14. That book looks interesting.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:04 PM
Feb 2016

Thanks for this -- now I know what book I'll buy next. I say this as a person who campaigned for Barack Obama in both 2008 and 2012, and who has been pleased with many of his accomplishments. Likewise, there are areas where I've been disappointed.

I also like Bill Press, and appreciate that his book isn't "anti-Obama." More, the Sanders quote is absolutely on target!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
15. Another recycled hit piece from the soap opera actress/blogger at the dailytrashbin?
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:05 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not a journalist but I play one on the internet!


Nanjeanne

(4,961 posts)
18. I wonder how many people have actually read this book they are so quick to assume slams Obama
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:23 PM
Feb 2016

How quickly people forget Bill Press' book "The Obama Hate Machine" where he really did slam rightwing and mainstream media for their hate speech against Obama.

As a Democrat who is proud of President Obama, I have felt disillusioned by some of the policies endorsed by Obama - especially in the early years - in his quest for bipartisan uniter. His search for the "Grand Bargain" which thank goodness was rejected by Republicans, horrified many real progressives in Congress as well as progressive voters - would have included reducing Social Security through the chained CPI, increasing the Retirement Age, decreasing corporate taxes significantly, and the lack of using his bully pulpit for the Public option - giving powerful drug lobbyists a seat at the healthcare table. As a candidate, Obama ran an ad targeting the industry's chief lobbyist, former Louisiana congressman Billy Tauzin, and the role Tauzin played in preventing Medicare from negotiating for lower drug prices. After election - he secured an agreement from the White House that they would not overturn the very Medicare drug policy Obama campaigned against.

And don't get me started on candidate Obama renegotiating NAFTA and CAFTA to . . . President Obama and the TPP.

We are constantly told we are the best country because we can dare to speak out against policies advocated by our leaders that we don't agree with. But somehow this book is offensive because it does just that.

Bernie Sanders quote: "Bill Press makes the case why, long after taking the oath of office, the next president of the United States must keep rallying the people who elected him or her on behalf of progressive causes. That is the only way real change will happen. Read this book" is neither offensive or outrageous. And it is very much what many of us Democrats (big D) and democrats (small d) believe is what our country needs.

This outrage by people is so over-the-top. But I guess is that's the best thing they can think of to throw against the wall against Sanders - it just shows how Sanders' "scandals" are pretty damn mild.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
29. We now have to agree with Obama 100% on everything or we are "offensive". That's today's memo.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

And it's absurd.

And desperate.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
20. This is an excellent book!
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:57 PM
Feb 2016

Recommended reading. Anyone who cares about moving this country in a progressive direction would do well to check it out.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
25. Man, people will invent outrage over the silliest of things. Your "offense" is purely manufactured.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:23 PM
Feb 2016

It must suck

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. Hey this is gonna help Bernie out in those
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:26 PM
Feb 2016

huge diverse states he must win to be a viable candidate.

Or not

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
33. The Sanders campaign bet/decided long ago ...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:36 PM
Feb 2016

which segments of the (President) Obama coalition he could do without (in favor of the "disaffected voter" his will attract) ... and it's looking, more and more, like it's the entire (traditional) coalition; a group, that is largely satisfied with the job that President Obama is doing/has done.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
27. So Obama didn't trick everyone by pretending to be the president for the people rather than the..
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:26 PM
Feb 2016

big corporations?

Obama gave the impression to everyone that all of his donations were from regular people and thus he would be responsive primarily to the people. He kept quiet about all his donations from big companies, and we had to wait until after election day to have the first glimpse as to who was the real Obama.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
31. Ok....
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:30 PM
Feb 2016

#1-- "As a democrat who is proud of President Obama.."

You do know that "pride" is one of the Seven Deadly Sins,"....right?


#2 " It seems to be a recommendation from Sanders the Independent, and not Sanders the Democrat ...." You see, here's the deal.... SANDERS IS SANDERS, every single day. He is NOT like Hillary Clinton.


#3-- Aw, forget it..

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
32. All you have to do is look at his selection
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:31 PM
Feb 2016

of close advisors and cabinet members. Rahm Emmanuel, Larry Summers, Tim Geitner, and there are others. Do these choices sound like someone who wanted to change the system? He had good ideas on the campaign trail but once he was elected, he no longer needed those who put him in office.

Bernie won't do that to us. Hillary will put the pedal to the metal if she gets the nod. Book it!

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
34. As one who is not sold on either candidate at this point, that book is a GREAT read.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:40 PM
Feb 2016

I criticize President Obama too. I'm not a blind follower. I didn't know one had to agree with everything a sitting president says to be part of the same platform. I mean, after all, didn't Teddy Kennedy challenge Carter?

You were saying???

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