They have every right to have fits, it's supposed to be HER TURN!!!

Thanks!! it's refreshing to have someone who doesn't feel as though Loyalty Oaths and Team Membership are useful in a democracy.

Your post is beyond lame.

Can we find out who was a bigger Elvis fan?

who chose to highlight the reaction he'd had as a 21 year old. He felt the same way decades later, when he did the interview, and viewed that experience as part of his personal enlightenment.

And frankly, this is as relevant to the Millennial voters of today as asking them how they feel about the Charleston and flapper skirts.

Perhaps it is time to realize that we're in the 21st century.

That you, Debbie?

I'm the oldest one at my work and I say this every time one of the "kids" does something trivial that pisses me off. My dream day after retirement is to by a piece of sod, lay it on the sidewalk, recline in a lawn chair and yell that every time someone steps on it. Can't wait.

I love dogs. Clouds and kids? Not so much. Unless they're both made of cotton candy, of course.

That's love right there.

Guess which would get a pass!

I like kids well enough really. The seem to really like me in spite of my best efforts. I especially like the 2 year olds because they remind me of a short version of my grandpa but drunk.

I belong to one.

Clinton isn't getting my vote on March 1st.

And use this world wide web thingy.

I read about it, but honestly it's confusing enough to just get my email. I love it when aol tells me "you've got mail!" though. So groovy!

Portable CD player! Confused me until I looked up CD in my new edition of Webster's (Unabridged baby!). Now I get it! lol

Sanders doesn't stand up to the purity test his supporters hold everyone else to.

Hillary at the drop of a pin.

I dont give a shit what EITHER candidate was doing 50+ years ago, and neither does the electorate- that's my point.

when it is so often posted here as a slam on Hillary. But your point is well taken. Thanks for the slow down.

So desperate to find anything on Bernie yet this is all they've got.

I actually feel.sorry for them.

But there is a serious contingent here that is in a deep fucking time warp, which explains why they're so cranky and out of touch when it comes to Millennials.

It's 2016, and some people are still firmly ensconced in 1972.

... being nasiated by JFK.

Something worth looking up

Pace yourself, Jack. It's gonna be a long year.

... we'll see

Hey, it's the 20th anniversary of the release of Infinite Jest, speaking of mining the English language for fun and proffer.

So it's not just the Clintons that are part of this wave of 90s nostalgia. Timely!

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4550752/hillary-clinton-macarena

I know it's terribly upsetting for some people here to be reminded, but it's actually 2016, now. The people hitting voting age this year were BORN in 1998, and when they hear the old duffer crowd yammer authoritatively about McGovern and Humphrey and the profound lessons of the Vietnam-Watergate era, they might as well be listening to lectures on Herbert Hoover or William McKinley or James K. Polk.

This century belongs to those who were born in it, the rest of us are just on an overextended vacation here. That's the truth, because time doesn't fuck around.

and no amount of crotchety get off my lawnitude is gonna do a damn thing about it.

What Bernie said about Democrats 50 years ago is not relevant ... It's 2016.

HRC's being a Goldwater Girl (in high school) 55 years ago is alternatingly relevant ... depending on whether one seeks to minimize what Bernie said about Democrats or what's to paint HRC as a one time republican.

Bernie's marching with Dr. King 50 years ago is HIGHLY relevant.

No flexible standards there!

Contrary to popular belief, im not interchangeable with anyone else, except perhaps in a very esoteric metaphysical sense.

It is highly offensive to me to see the likes of Bernie Sanders compared to Bobby and John Kennedy.

What a sick joke that is!

He could come in first place in every state and still not have enough delegates to win. He does not have the backing of the Democratic Party.

you all will look fondly upon those days when you enjoyed a measly 30% rate of membership.

Where the vote of the PEOPLE and not the vote of the privileged few should count?

Why don't you get them to change the name of the party to be more in line with what you perceive it is, and apparently should be from your point of view "to keep Bernie out".

THAT is what the PEOPLE feel should be cleaned up so that this party can once again live up to its *label* of being the "Democratic Party" and really believe in the system of Democracy and not that it is just a marketing label to harvest votes for a politburo that feels like they should call the shots instead of the people.

Either the party lives up to its label, or the people will have it die as it should to be replaced by a party that really believes in democracy, and not just feels we this party is just a HS football team to root for.

... leftward aspirations? Many people pointed out that the Democratic Party has always been a big tent, unlike what the GOP has become, but if you want to form a new party be my guest, and call it anything you want.

Do you deny that is what they were saying when they were in effect saying that delegates that DO NOT REFLECT *democratic voting processes* would in effect make those democratic votes not count? If not, then what was that poster saying?

I just want a Democratic party that stands for what its name is supposed to stand for...

DEMOCRACY!!!!

Not "selected delegates" have the process rigged for the insiders that have bought their way or let others buy their way to the top!

I think most other Americans who believe in a democratic system feel like I do that this party should live up to its name and allow for a process that lets them pick the leaders, and not to stand by and allow another be "annointed" for them by others.

Your message is "cute". Just because too many Republicans leaving their party that's transforming in to one of bigots want to take over this *DEMOCRATIC* Party doesn't mean people like me are just going to stand by and let that happen! Big Tent doesn't means we should give up our principles. If you don't like what the Democratic Party stands for in terms of being progressive as those like FDR have made it to be that has made it one that the people have supported in the past, start your own! Otherwise don't expect them to roll over to conservative agendas with a "big tent".

never have been, never will be. I've never tried to hide that.

But we knew that of old.

Are you really shocked that there are non-democrats here when only 30-something percent of the electorate is registered with your party? And once again, Bernie not being a Democrat is a feature, not a bug.

Not giving a shit about the people and sucking up to the One Percent.

that gives him the best chance for his ambition--not because he has suddenly changed--remember that his appeal is that he has grabbed the same bull horn for decades with his well-trod path of a political script. He has few friends in government after all this time.
For Bernie supporters that means he is "true" and not part of "the establishment" yet when you realize that he has been a career politician with little to show for it except a sudden swell of support from mostly first-timers--you realize he is part of the establishment, and it is benefiting him very well--more than pays the bills.

... in his Vermont Senate seat. It's allowed him to be a gadfly in comfort. No one has tried to assassinate him. He hasn't gotten much if any landmark legislation passed. He's been an ally of the right causes, but hardly a great leader -- or maybe we'd remember him sadly like the Kennedys, who were assassinated for being prominent leaders of Democratic causes.

be ageing politicians with a good track record,no more,no less..

It was the young,horrifying deaths that put them in exalted place that they now hold.

Fidel had reached out to Kennedy, or tried to, but that cold war madness lead to Cuba turning to the Soviets.

this is what people are focusing on.

Gee - he said something about Jesse Jackson where he criticized Jesse Jackson’s decision to try and affect change by “working within the Democratic party”. Ummmm. He also campaigned for and with Jesse Jackson.

I think it would behoove Buzzfeed to actually print the whole interview so we can see exactly what's was said since the quotes are pretty skimpy. And it also appears that in 1987 Bernie was talking about Kennedy in the 1960s since JFK died in 1963. So it's hard based on this very bizarre article to know how Bernie felt in 1987. He is talking about how he felt 25+ years earlier.

If you can post a link to the actual interview - then it might be worth discussing. This? sheesh.

You are so welcome.

Why do his supporters think that his message will resonate will the majority of Dems? And do they expect the Democratic party is going to rally around him?

FDR style democracy. Like I said, it just eats you people up that an Independent has to come and clean up this shit mess.

... his "revolution"

Revolution with asterisks by them aren't revolutions, they're marketing

Link?

... and willing to work with what she's got to progress the country.

.... isn't revolution

while you still can.

... to say what they want to say.

... SC will say a lot.

Sanders gets into the 40s in SC then I feel sorry for Hillary, she might lose...

He gets beat by > 15... I don't see Sanders winning

I'm sure that's a sufficient number of Dems to carry a national election in the face of rabid GOP opposition.

Kennedy is the second-most overrated president of the 20th century, right behind Reagan. He didn't actually accomplish anything at all in office; the Cuban missile crisis was caused directly by the Bay of Pigs (which JFK went ahead with, despite the plans being an Eisenhower holdover, and then doomed to failure by not calling in air support), and the US reaction to Soviet missiles in Cuba was laughably hypocritical considering that the USA had missiles in Turkey. Kennedy's biggest accomplishment as president? Bringing the world to the brink of nuclear war to show how big his balls were, basically.

And people seem to overlook the fact that Kennedy was a friend and supporter of Tailgunner Joe McCarthy, donated money to Richard Nixon when Nixon was running for the Senate, approved an assassination programme targeted at Castro, approved the coup that brought down Diem in Vietnam, and much else besides. I honestly don't get the Kennedy hero-worship; as with Reagan, it seems like a triumph of style over substance. I'm honestly much more bothered that so many on the ostensible left idolise JFK than I am that Sanders doesn't.

Lyndon Johnson was able to carry forward some of the best of what Jack Kennedy began, like the Civil Rights Act, the Space Program, and so on. I know many people who joined the Peace Corps, because they were inspired by JFK when he started it.

I remember a lot of things -- through young eyes, it is true. I've modified my impressions over time to reflect the fact that JFK was human, after all. But still.

Let's just say I disagree with your cynical assessment -- and I find it troubling that Sanders could have been so cynical that long ago.

Wtf you gonna do if he wins? Me, I have no problem voting for yet another center right corporate custodian if Clinton wins, that's been my voting option since the 76 election. But you are digging yourself a massive hole to climb out of.

what is the best solution to the mess?

JURY: This is

According to Bernie.

Not to me. Invade Cuba to reinstate a dictator who co-operated with US companies to exploit the Cuban workers? That does not sound like building democracy.

... because that was what FDR did in WWII, and Bernie supports FDR. The games we are seeing being played now...

... about supporting him. This revelation may be coming too late to have any noticeable effect on the events in Iowa tonight, but there are still many more states to go!

This, plus the recent "foreign policy advisors" list ... I think that the closer people look at Bernie (ie: the undecideds and Bernie's "soft" supporters), the more they'll like Hillary instead.


"I can't wait to see how THIS turns out."

than he does Republicans.

Before coming to this web site, I hadn't heard that he wanted (someone) to primary President Obama for his reelection bid. So, in that context, the little blurb he wrote for the book cover makes sense.

It was written in 2012 about many of Clinton's biggest supporters were floating the idea that she should run against Obama's re-election because they were disappointed in his actions and policies.

But I suppose you are not shocked by that one

Sanders, on the other hand, was floating that idea all by himself. Looks like he had no takers -- or backers -- or money at that time.

There is a yuuuuge difference.

following people or parties. We can't have that. For shame!!

It is only becoming clear now what sort of forces Kennedy was holding back, or Eisenhower before him. Given the sort of threat assesments he was getting, if he did'nt call Castro a chupacabra, he was finding middle ground.
JFK was a good and noble man - but he was the Establishment. Old Joe was a prominent financier, and much of the hatred of Kennedys has to do with fueds between Joe and the Morgans pre-Depression!

...walking on the Moon and Mars, Bernie was looking at the very same president and feeling physically nauseated.

I have to say I am fucking impressed with St Bernie's depth of insight.

Just ask the Hondurans.....

call me gay.

"One time I said I thought Bradley Cooper was "hot" (for a man). When I'm 74, the OP is going to
call me gay."

What term did you find offensive, pray tell?

I don't appraise men as hot or not. One time I did. Bradley Cooper looks like ME... sooooo, I think he's hot. I mentioned as much to some friends of mine. If it was recorded; when I'm 74 pwnwhoeversheis will use it against me. "Chris Co***** is gay!"

The article she linked to stated (I paraphrase) "BERNIE ONCE SAID..."

JFK did a lot of good things, but if he had had his way on Cuba, it would be led by a right-wing military junta to this day. There was no way that the Bay of Pigs coup attempt could ever have led to anything progressive or democratic in Cuba.

seem so familiar? Oh yea, more recycled red baiting from the candidate who doesn't dare run on the issues.

What's it been since the last time this was posted, 3 weeks, a month?

the evolution of his views. JFK was the one whose liberalism made him sick.

...looks like Sanders has a history of being nosiated by dems until he needs their ...

Establishment

to be a member of the Democratic Party?! lol

Nice try great warrior of the GD: P! http://www.democraticunderground.com/110739127

I know I am slaughtering a Baby Boomer sacred cow, here, but JFK was not the super-progressive most people think he was.

and Libertarians.

Doesn't matter what the noise machine says, history says otherwise.

Does "Missile Gap" ring a bell?

on September 20, 1963, about a week before the US senate vote to ratify it: