2016 Postmortem

amborin

(16,631 posts) Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:19 PM Feb 2016

Hillary Never Saw This Coming & It's Going to Get Worse

Hillary Never Saw This Coming: Why the Democratic Primary Has Become a Battle—and Why It’s Going to Get Worse

The best thing about the Iowa caucuses, which take place on Monday, is that they are actually happening.

A year ago, it seemed like Hillary Clinton could have conducted her campaign Skyping in from a yacht off the Bahamas and still breeze through Iowa. Bernie Sanders has robbed her of that luxury. The race is remarkably close. Sanders could easily win.

Much of this is her own doing—she is a hyper-hawkish Wall Street ally who’s championed disastrous, racist criminal justice and welfare policies

If Sanders wins, it will send the campaign into totally uncharted waters. Things will get awfully nasty awfully quick. If he doesn’t… well, he’ll still probably win New Hampshire. Things will still get awfully nasty awfully quick.

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http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/hillary-never-saw-coming-why-democratic-primary-has-become-battle-and-why-its-going

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Hillary Never Saw This Coming & It's Going to Get Worse (Original Post) amborin Feb 2016 OP

What a bunch of biased BS. The Bahamas thing is ludicrous and not something Hillary would do. Metric System Feb 2016 #1

You are right, Blus4u Feb 2016 #2

What in the world are you talking about? virtualobserver Feb 2016 #3

Look at who it is. pangaia Feb 2016 #14

You're right corkhead Feb 2016 #4

Haaa! I was just going to post that. jillan Feb 2016 #11

Well, it depends where Blankfein moors his yacht, hifiguy Feb 2016 #8

You don't know her then. 840high Feb 2016 #21

I think cruising the Greek Isles would be a better choice... alittlelark Feb 2016 #5

The Absolute Best nutshell description of HRH ever. hifiguy Feb 2016 #6

That is what happens when you believe your own press releases, bvar22 Feb 2016 #7

That fall back to Earth is really going to hurt...n/t asuhornets Feb 2016 #9

I personally think she is still bitter for losing to an unknown black guy with a funny name Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #12

+1000 pangaia Feb 2016 #15

Bitter? hifiguy Feb 2016 #17

Now that's really bitter! 1monster Feb 2016 #22

After being the heir apparent, awaiting her coronation.... paleotn Feb 2016 #24

Apparent heir; coronation asuhornets Feb 2016 #25

Not hardly, but it is funny.... paleotn Feb 2016 #26

No. I do not think that because asuhornets Feb 2016 #27

I'm glad it's a real race and that competing messages are being heard. jalan48 Feb 2016 #10

not much different than the GOP bubble Scalded Nun Feb 2016 #13

At this point why not just wait to see who wins book_worm Feb 2016 #16

GMAFB! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #18

Hell, Camp Weathervane was an arrogant mess from the beginning... SoapBox Feb 2016 #19

She is NOT a good Candidate... and would NOT be a good President, IMNSHO. AzDar Feb 2016 #20

You said it! nt zentrum Feb 2016 #23

Clinton has been campaigning since the campaign began...sorry if that doesn't fit your stereotype brooklynite Feb 2016 #28

I don't understand why anyone would post something like this when there is nothing to gain. randome Feb 2016 #29

The same reason. Others are posting Bernie bashing threads. JesterCS Feb 2016 #30

I suppose. It just seems like a waste of pixels to me. randome Feb 2016 #31

Metric System

(6,048 posts)

1. What a bunch of biased BS. The Bahamas thing is ludicrous and not something Hillary would do.

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:35 PM

Feb 2016

Blus4u

(608 posts)

2. You are right,

Reply to Metric System (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:45 PM

Feb 2016

I'm sure she would rather be giving a speech.

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)

3. What in the world are you talking about?

Reply to Metric System (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:45 PM

Feb 2016

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

14. Look at who it is.

Reply to virtualobserver (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:55 PM

Feb 2016

corkhead

(6,119 posts)

4. You're right

Reply to Metric System (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:49 PM

Feb 2016

It would probably be the Caymans

jillan

(39,451 posts)

11. Haaa! I was just going to post that.

Reply to corkhead (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:53 PM

Feb 2016

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)

8. Well, it depends where Blankfein moors his yacht,

Reply to Metric System (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:05 PM

Feb 2016

I suppose.

840high

(17,196 posts)

21. You don't know her then.

Reply to Metric System (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:25 PM

Feb 2016

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)

5. I think cruising the Greek Isles would be a better choice...

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:56 PM

Feb 2016

... This time of year.

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)

6. The Absolute Best nutshell description of HRH ever.

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:56 PM

Feb 2016

"she is a hyper-hawkish Wall Street ally who’s championed disastrous, racist criminal justice and welfare policies." Truer words were never spoken.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)

7. That is what happens when you believe your own press releases,

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:01 PM

Feb 2016

and walk around with your nose in the air.
You never see it coming.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)

9. That fall back to Earth is really going to hurt...n/t

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:06 PM

Feb 2016

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)

12. I personally think she is still bitter for losing to an unknown black guy with a funny name

Reply to asuhornets (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:53 PM

Feb 2016

in 2008 and becoming president is more of an obsession than an actual desire to do the country well.

IF she doesn't blow out Sanders or if she doesn't win, it's going to get very personal very quickly. Her attack dogs are already beginning to polish the ax-handles.

Wait until tomorrow. If she doesn't blow him out or she loses, that next debate will be bloody.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

15. +1000

Reply to Feeling the Bern (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:56 PM

Feb 2016

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)

17. Bitter?

Reply to Feeling the Bern (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:02 PM

Feb 2016

Hell's bells, I'd bet she is still spitting quinine.

1monster

(11,012 posts)

22. Now that's really bitter!

Reply to hifiguy (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:26 PM

Feb 2016

paleotn

(17,931 posts)

24. After being the heir apparent, awaiting her coronation....

Reply to asuhornets (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 09:22 PM

Feb 2016

...you are correct. It will hurt Hill and her supporters.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)

25. Apparent heir; coronation

Reply to paleotn (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 09:35 PM

Feb 2016

Is this what the anti-Hillary thing is all about?

paleotn

(17,931 posts)

26. Not hardly, but it is funny....

Reply to asuhornets (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 10:08 PM

Feb 2016

....Now tell me, you really believe Hill didn't think this nomination was rightly hers after the 2008 debacle? Heck, she was leading Bernie by over 40 points nationally just a few months ago. The ghost of 2008 just wont leave her alone.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)

27. No. I do not think that because

Reply to paleotn (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 10:18 PM

Feb 2016

she has ground game in Iowa that is near perfection. She's prepared, organized, ready to be Prez on day one.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)

10. I'm glad it's a real race and that competing messages are being heard.

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:49 PM

Feb 2016

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)

13. not much different than the GOP bubble

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:54 PM

Feb 2016

book_worm

(15,951 posts)

16. At this point why not just wait to see who wins

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:57 PM

Feb 2016

We'll all know in a few hours.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

18. GMAFB!

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:13 PM

Feb 2016

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)

19. Hell, Camp Weathervane was an arrogant mess from the beginning...

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:22 PM

Feb 2016

She surrounded herself with the same, tired Entrenched bunch...the outcome was inevitable.

Another bad judgement call which makes her unfit to be President.

AzDar

(14,023 posts)

20. She is NOT a good Candidate... and would NOT be a good President, IMNSHO.

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:24 PM

Feb 2016

So VERY grateful for Bernie...

Go Bernie, GO!!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)

23. You said it! nt

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 09:18 PM

Feb 2016

brooklynite

(94,595 posts)

28. Clinton has been campaigning since the campaign began...sorry if that doesn't fit your stereotype

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 10:19 PM

Feb 2016

randome

(34,845 posts)

29. I don't understand why anyone would post something like this when there is nothing to gain.

Reply to amborin (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 10:22 PM

Feb 2016

And they will look naive if Clinton wins. So I just don't get what the point of something like this is.

A panic attack maybe?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

JesterCS

(1,827 posts)

30. The same reason. Others are posting Bernie bashing threads.

Reply to randome (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 10:24 PM

Feb 2016

Alls fair if theirs get to stay up

randome

(34,845 posts)

31. I suppose. It just seems like a waste of pixels to me.

Reply to JesterCS (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 10:31 PM

Feb 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

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