2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf Bernie wins, he won't wear a tux to the inaugural ball because it's a symbol of "class privilege"
If Bernie Sanders wins the presidency, dont expect him to go all out for the celebration. In an interview with Good Morning America on Monday, he told Robin Roberts not even the inaugural ball would be a tuxedo-worthy occasion for a man who campaigns on fixing wealth inequality. Ive probably got myself in a lot of trouble right now and my wife disagrees with me, no doubt, but a tux is kind of a symbol of class privilege, the Vermont senator said.
http://national.suntimes.com/national-politics/7/72/2527234/edit-bernie-sanders-wouldnt-wear-a-tuxedo-to-his-inaugural-ball
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I have no problem with it. I actually found it quite interesting.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)He'd cancel the balls and parade and have a simple swearing in with justice Roberts and get to work. The savings can go to food banks aground DC, Maryland and Virginia.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)talk about an expensive,stupid tradition.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)he might have a big ol' come one, come all, casual attire, celebration that makes us all feel included.
I think that is more Bernie's style.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Many employees where I used to work skipped our Christmas party because it was an extravagant affair. Quite a few of the guys in the shop didn't even own a nice suit and couldn't afford to rent one.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)but only Bernie cares to mingle with us.
I'll say it loud and proud, I love Bernie Sanders. He's my modern day hero.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)He's a mensch!
enid602
(8,620 posts)I can just see it now; the happy couple waving to the adoring crowds from their '61 Corvair convertible, being pulled by a team of Wall Street investment bankers. Jane cracking the whip.
White House Staff circulating with huge trays of turkey legs and quarts of Schlitz. A magnificent cake made of thousands of rum-soaked Twinkies. Quite the hootenanny!
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Eatacig
(97 posts)Dumbasses. The savings will go in the republicans pockets
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I was on Clintons second inaugural and the planning starts 3 years prior to the events. But you have some weird Repug getting the money? I guess if they win maybe.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I prefer my representatives down to earth, not elitist and out of touch.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I just prefer regular folk to the billionaire class.
It seems like Hillary's supporters dream of being just like her while Bernie supporters recognize one of their own.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)What really kills me is the small talk I have to do. All the pretending just exhausts me to death. The worst is the networking. People have these business cards that they hand out. I prefer to stay home and read a book and watch some netflix, but sometimes you got to be an adult and join the real world.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Is that kind of like being photographed with Kissinger? (I don't know; I've never done that, either.)
Why would you even DO such a thing? I've gotten the impression at DU that NOTHING and NOBODY justifies the degradation of taking on any of the trappings of such vulgar excess, not to mention the symbolism of grinding the masses into the mud.
Did you immediately sell the garments and give the proceeds to the nearest homeless person, and then steam clean yourself?
I am breathless to know the details.
JURY: This is irony laced with sarcasm. No animals were hurt in the production of this post (i.e. no fur coats; that's also ironic or something)
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You're "breathless"?
That's one word for it I guess, there are others that would be more applicable but they would probably get my post hidden by a jury. And I'm sure you wouldn't try to bait me into a hide, would you?
Anyway, hope you feel better soon.
Note to jury, this post contains no personal attacks unlike the one it's in response to. Thank you for serving.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)...even to his own high school prom or his own inauguration for POTUS, and it is agreed up and down the thread that he is an example to us all for his nobility in eschewing the vulgar trappings of class distinctions.
You brought up having worn couture, and I was curious for the dish on that experience.
Still waiting with bated breath (which is not the same as holding my breath).
JURY: We're just two "gals" having fun here.
beam me up scottie
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_snapping_turtle
It's really cool, check it out:
Totally awesome critter, I had the pleasure of meeting one face to face as it was dining in a deer carcass. It hissed like a demon and I paddled my ass out of there in a hurry. For some reason I was reminded of the encounter when I first read your post.
I wasn't wearing a gown at the time, just shorts and a tank top and I got a terrible sunburn too. I guess I should have splurged on the expensive sunscreen. Well, learn something new every day.
I'm sorry, what were you saying? I lost track again. Your posts seem to have that effect on me, I start to read them and my eyes just glaze over and my mind wanders. Must be an effect from the bile fumes since that also happens when I try to pay attention to my boyfriend's right wing brothers. They're so angry and hateful all the time, it's exhausting just being around them. I have no idea why they're that way, some people are just born mean I guess.
Note to jury: no animals were harmed by this post. Or people because unlike the mean spirited personal attack I was responding to this post is educational and not full of unprovoked rage and dripping with acidic sarcasm. Thank you for serving.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)JURY: Jokes and pleasantries exchanged in good DU fashion. LOVE the snapping turtle; it looks like a model for The Alien, doesn't it.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)They're protected down here and starting to make a come back. Here's a baby one:
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)My I seem to have attracted a swarm of angry people, all over wondering about the cost of a dress. In a thread mocking Bernie for not wanting to wear a tux no less.
Are you the last or will more of your friends be stopping by? I'll put out snacks if you're feeling peckish.
DU is an odd place sometimes, reminds me of the girl's locker room in high school.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)would make you posting that pic just a tad hypocritical. Funny how you have no explanation that such a champion of the 99% would be traipsing around in made to measure designer duds. Only the 1% can afford those!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I have no idea what any of that means.
Are you done yet or will your next post have me beating small children?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)That means buying designer clothes that have been tailored just for you- and not after the are made. That would be "off the rack". Hope that helps!
Nothing to do with kids, you sound quite confused.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Yes, I've worn couture. Is that a big deal for you?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Can't really say it any plainer for you.
Sackcloth and ashes for you? Or do you need me to break down that reference as well.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The expletives aren't helping. I've never worn a sackcloth, are they terribly uncomfortable?
Maybe calm down and collect your thoughts first.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I curse often and very calmly. Having a bad night, are we?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)It's no party but it's better than not having clothes to wash, food to eat or the luxury of a house in which to listen to music. I consider myself fortunate.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)You are incredibly fortunate to have been able to have that- and more than once!
Your couture of course needs the best dry cleaner in town. But what a very folksy picture of gratitude for the simple things you paint for us plebes.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I gave my gowns away a long time ago because I didn't need them anymore.
Is that what you wanted to know? You should have just asked.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)depending on the shark tank you were swimming in.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I never understood how some people can think they know anything about a person they've never met.
I guess everyone needs a hobby. At least you have an active imagination, hang onto that, it's rare in an adult.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Better get that checked out, because I was quoting you all along dear.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)How would you know what I needed until I told you? Why wouldn't I need them?
Sounds like you're just making it up as you go along.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Yet you said you felt you did. At least at this point you;re not pretending I made that up, so that's a nice change in your story. First you didn't need it, now you did? Interesting stuff.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Why wouldn't I have needed them? Do you know something about me I don't?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)It's been a blast- thank you!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I said I gave my gowns away, I also gave most of my other dress clothes and shoes away because I didn't need them. I wear jeans to work now.
This is getting more and more bizarre.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)the AM when you're a bit more refreshed? Have a good night.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You said you doubted I needed them as if you knew something about me, what did you mean?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)But most people do grok the difference between needing clothing and indulging in super expensive luxury. Bernie gets it- ask him maybe?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)People give away things they say they don't need, that doesn't mean they couldn't have lived without them.
Obama probably owns a tux and I'm sure Michelle has a few couture gowns, do they need them?
You aren't an it-getter, are you? Either that or you're making up shit to try to make me look entitled.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I do "get t" you just posted an edit to make me look like a liar? You clearly communicated you felt at one time you needed couture. If you misspoke- own it- but don't try and misrepresent what you did say :barf:
Done with your blatant dishonestly.
Jury- Please look at the whole exchange to see who id full of it here.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Here's the post where I said I gave them away, there were no edits:
105. I haven't worn couture in years, bettyellen. I prefer jeans and flannel now.
I gave my gowns away a long time ago because I didn't need them anymore.
Is that what you wanted to know? You should have just asked.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1113704
If I edit it's usually for clarity, you're acting like I said I had to have those gowns.
What a truly bizarre exchange.
You really are desperate, you came into this thread to attack me and haven't let up. I have no idea what I said to upset you but you should really calm down. It's disturbing.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Not going to play stupid about it, either.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)in real life.
If you recognize one of your own in Bernie, who am I to question? My own don't wear couture gowns. We shop off-the-rack sales and thrift stores.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)If you recognize one of your own in Hillary, who am I to question?
TacoD
(581 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)But she was referring to Hillary who's to Bill's right.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)My bad, the picture's been posted here so often I thought everyone knew the former Mrs. Trump - I forget which one she was, he's had several.
TacoD
(581 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I didn't answer because I thought you knew who she was.
Or did you mean his other right?
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)After tonight, you'll need all the victories you can get.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Says a lot about your character because I would never try to make you feel bad if your candidate loses.
But thanks for finally showing your true colours, the mask just slipped off.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)You showed him/her!
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)The woman to the right in the photo is the latest Mrs. Trump. AKA "the bride."
BigGLiberal
(102 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Good times!
BigGLiberal
(102 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)I cannot dance at all. Lol
cali
(114,904 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)We going dancing? FML.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)It doesn't really cost any more than a suit.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Talk about getting ahead yourself. The sheer arrogance is obnoxious.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Nothing that man could do could offend me, because he's not worth getting offended over. I just think it's a tiny bit early to be talking about what you will or will not wear for an office you have not won yet.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)and it is wear, not where.
Example: If you're going to wear that dirty shirt again, you're going to have to get it from the hamper where I threw it.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)I corrected it.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)JURY: In the 1950s and 1960s Homecoming Queens were popular girls in high schools who received crowns at the prom; nobody knew from gay back then. This is a joke.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I never judge a man by what he owns, I feel sorry for girls like that.
Marrying for money and power won't make you happy.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)about counting chickens, etc?
Metric System
(6,048 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Symbol of class privilege dude.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)This is what is important to you?
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)(And for good reason.)
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)so expensive and royal like.
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)So funny!
frylock
(34,825 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Jane is one lucky woman.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Ding, ding, ding. Winner!
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Is what we want
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Oh brother.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)How important image is to Sanders personally. It's very calculated. Good move on his part.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)An inaugural ball should be a people's event. It shouldn't be about snobbery and exclusivity.
I seriously doubt that people would only vote for a Democrat if that Dem was in favor of formality.
(BTW, it's fairly unlikely that HRC would wear a tux, either).
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Bernie's roots run deep. He's legit.
pa28
(6,145 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Iggy Knorr
(247 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)That's up there with $1 champagne flutes being the symbol of the 1% during New Years Eve.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)He'll start dressing like Kim Jong Il every day. Wake up people!
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)LoveIsNow
(356 posts)There are as many micro-agressions like this against the lower classes as there are against all our social minorities.
Nice to see him walking the walk. Haven't been this period of a candidate's wardrobe choices since Obama refused to wear the flag pin, which I viewed as perhaps the ultimate symbol of Bush-era false patriotism.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)United States presidential inaugural balls
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
United States presidential inaugural balls are large social gatherings, both white tie and black tie, held to celebrate the commencement of a new term of the President of the United States. Planned and sanctioned by the Presidential Inaugural Committee, the official inaugural balls occur throughout the evening of Inauguration Day in the Washington D.C. area and are invitation-only, attended by guests who are issued pre-paid tickets. The President, First Lady, Vice-President and his spouse, all make personal appearances at each of the inaugural balls held in their honor. Catered food, beverages, and live entertainment performed by national and globally acclaimed musicians are provided at the inaugural balls.
Other inaugural balls, unofficial and often less formal that occur before and on Inauguration Day, are given by state societies, businesses, and private organizations.
more at link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_inaugural_balls
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)No new tuxes.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)White tie is two steps of formality above a tux.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)so investing in one extra suit for, I'd hope, 8 years really wouldn't be that much of a symbol of class privilege. Not compared with having honor guards, helicopters, country retreats and so on at your disposal.
His brother Larry could probably pick up a second hand one for him in Oxford.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I don't think he was serious, it was a stupid question and not wanting to wear a tux is different than refusing to wear one.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Phony folkiness is embarrassing- and often deeply disrespectful.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)and the media will have a pic of it.Love it