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Just heard on MSNBC: Hillary didn't stop to shake hands with Iowa supporters after victory speech. (Original Post) Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 OP
Smell ya later! DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #1
Exactly. polichick Feb 2016 #2
*Snort!* I had just taken a sip of milk. That would have been in my nose! nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #3
Didn't want to get cooties mindwalker_i Feb 2016 #17
No shit dude/dudett! I am cracking up on your reply, seriously mrdmk Feb 2016 #32
Ha! neverforget Feb 2016 #34
To put the best face on it they were probably trying to get out before the storm. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #4
The Storm's not coming until early morning, and her private jet can wait for her. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #6
Quick roll in the corn and then saltpoint Feb 2016 #5
While claiming she was under sniper fire. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #59
: ) LOL! eom saltpoint Feb 2016 #65
Sign of a sore loser... Bernie was his usual magnanimous self! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #7
They did the same in 2008 along with giving a petty call to Obama after she lost. askew Feb 2016 #8
He truly is... Nt Docreed2003 Feb 2016 #28
And they had planned for Chelsea and Bill to speak. morningfog Feb 2016 #9
Well they hadn't planned for Bill and Chelsea to look so morose. cui bono Feb 2016 #14
Whoa. Chelsea looks grim. cali Feb 2016 #22
Yeah, Bill doesn't look very happy either. cui bono Feb 2016 #25
Look at Bubba's face. He knows. merrily Feb 2016 #45
And it's a familiar feeling. cui bono Feb 2016 #46
The Old Dog was supposed to be Hillary's Ace-in-the-Hole. bvar22 Feb 2016 #69
More significantly, so does one of the most skilled, knowledgeable politicians in history, next to merrily Feb 2016 #47
Chelsea is pregnant. That takes a toll on ones energy, as I well recall. Hekate Feb 2016 #67
and Brian Williams reminded Andrea (who BernieBros usually refer to as Mrs. Greenspan) ecstatic Feb 2016 #10
Do you not see the irony of saying "Berniebro" while complaining about the use of cui bono Feb 2016 #15
Good point. ecstatic Feb 2016 #33
I think we all don't mind Berners. Berniebros is a definite attempt at dissing us though. cui bono Feb 2016 #38
There is a difference between repeated a lie like Bernie bros and merrily Feb 2016 #44
Clinton camp did NOT look happy ram2008 Feb 2016 #11
That's okay. My mother was alarmed when she heard I was a member of "some underground".... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #13
Bwahaha! I've gotten that reaction before, too! ebayfool Feb 2016 #21
Please see Reply 30 merrily Feb 2016 #31
I've had car repairs to deal with. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #52
I hear ya. That treadmill keeps rolling, don't it?! ebayfool Feb 2016 #54
I'm in Vegas so we say, "If I win the Megabucks". Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #55
O.K., but what did your mom think of merrily Feb 2016 #30
She lurved Bogart - ebayfool Feb 2016 #40
FYI: rock and roll started several years before the Twist. merrily Feb 2016 #41
She had all those guys on the turntable, too. ebayfool Feb 2016 #43
She couldn't dig it. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #48
LOL! Not even the anti-Hitler underground? Come on, now! merrily Feb 2016 #49
Her generation was desperate to fit in.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #50
Are we talking Mad Men era? merrily Feb 2016 #51
50s/60s when the color of the future was supposed to be turquoise. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #53
No, they did not. Nor did their supporters. Bernie and company on the other hand... cui bono Feb 2016 #18
She knows how many years she prepared and how much the deck was stacked in her favor. merrily Feb 2016 #42
Serves them proles right fir not delivering a landslide! R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #12
The peasants disappointed her by not giving her the landslide to which she was entitled. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #16
To be fair, I'm guessing they were *embarrassed.* DirkGently Feb 2016 #19
Woah! That photo speaks volumes! ebayfool Feb 2016 #23
Bubba had a similar look in 2008, the night it became mathematically impossible for her to merrily Feb 2016 #36
That one says a lot more than a 1000 words Jarqui Feb 2016 #37
Oh boy - that photo!!!! 840high Feb 2016 #27
Sticker guy won Twitter tonight by my estimates...nt Docreed2003 Feb 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #39
Sticker Shark 2016! n/t DirkGently Feb 2016 #70
She and Bubba had a party to get to on Jamie Dimon's yacht. Indepatriot Feb 2016 #20
She doesn't see "people." senz Feb 2016 #24
the snow storm has started. they probably had to leave before it got bad. Lil Missy Feb 2016 #26
But Bernie didn't? Come on, now! merrily Feb 2016 #35
No, there's no snow storm here yet CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #66
They had a party for supporters (photos link) Lucinda Feb 2016 #56
You call that a "party"? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #57
All I saw was Bill and Hillary hugging. SamKnause Feb 2016 #60
I'm sure her supporters do, and the Des Moines register did. Lucinda Feb 2016 #61
Check out the expression of the guy in the background..... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #62
After one squeezes out the orange Califonz Feb 2016 #58
I can't blame her loyalsister Feb 2016 #63
"She deserves some slack here." Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #64
What a cad! rusty fender Feb 2016 #68
The Queen does not wish to touch the filthy peasants. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #71

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
5. Quick roll in the corn and then
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:23 AM
Feb 2016

out the door.

I'm guessing her flight will arrive there in New Hampshire and upon deboarding she'll call a press conference and declare victory there as well.

askew

(1,464 posts)
8. They did the same in 2008 along with giving a petty call to Obama after she lost.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:25 AM
Feb 2016

She is a sore loser.

Compare that to O'Malley who is still at his concession party shaking hands and hanging out with his staffers and supporters. He's a class act.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
9. And they had planned for Chelsea and Bill to speak.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:26 AM
Feb 2016

Then all of the sudden, while Cruz was speaking, she went on stage unannounced.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
69. The Old Dog was supposed to be Hillary's Ace-in-the-Hole.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:44 AM
Feb 2016

She sent him out barnstorming across Iowa trying to drum up support for Hillary.
He failed too.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
47. More significantly, so does one of the most skilled, knowledgeable politicians in history, next to
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:50 AM
Feb 2016

Cleopatra.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
10. and Brian Williams reminded Andrea (who BernieBros usually refer to as Mrs. Greenspan)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:27 AM
Feb 2016

that there is a huge blizzard coming and it's probably a good idea to high tail it out of there (Andrea included).

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
15. Do you not see the irony of saying "Berniebro" while complaining about the use of
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:40 AM
Feb 2016

"Mrs. Greenspan"?



(for the record I ask those that use that to call Andrea Mitchell by her chosen name)

.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
44. There is a difference between repeated a lie like Bernie bros and
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:48 AM
Feb 2016

telling the truth about the name of the very famous and destructive husband of a public figure like Andrea Mitchell is.

Bernie bros is a fiction designed to convey that Bernie does not appeal to women, or that he's sexist or whatever. Bernie's supporters are not public figures, did not help destroy the economy and are not slanting the news. Mitchell is a public figure, really is married to Greenspan and has been spinning the truth for years.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
11. Clinton camp did NOT look happy
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:31 AM
Feb 2016

I think she thought she was going to win by a fair amount and it looked like it when she was on camera.

My mom was leaning Hillary and against Bernie because she was scared of a "socialist." She said she didn't like Hillary's speech and she thought Bernie gave a great speech. My moms largely apolitical and has some conservative and liberal ideas... so she also said she liked what Rubio said as well.

Her one caveat was she got a little scared when Bernie said "political revolution" but she liked the ideas he talked about.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
21. Bwahaha! I've gotten that reaction before, too!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:07 AM
Feb 2016

Then I offer 'em a DU bumper sticker! One car - years of star donations, so I have a surplus. Soon as the bills aren't quite so far ahead of me, I'm getting my star back!

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
40. She lurved Bogart -
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:34 AM
Feb 2016

but she died doing the twist (Chubby Checker) so missed out on the Rock 'n Roll evolution.

But I remember as a little kid being so awed that she could move like that!

She also loved a good fight so, yeah, I think she woulda been right at home at Democratic Underground!

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
43. She had all those guys on the turntable, too.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:44 AM
Feb 2016

By evolution I was speaking of the later years. In 1955 I wasn't but 1 year old!

Turntables probably date me, though.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
50. Her generation was desperate to fit in....
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:20 AM
Feb 2016

That's why most folks had a fully stocked bar in the house for company.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
42. She knows how many years she prepared and how much the deck was stacked in her favor.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:43 AM
Feb 2016

That, despite those things, all she did was tie has to tell her quite a lot.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. The peasants disappointed her by not giving her the landslide to which she was entitled.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:40 AM
Feb 2016

She could not sully herself by touching them after that.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
19. To be fair, I'm guessing they were *embarrassed.*
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:47 AM
Feb 2016

The crazily unwarranted declaration of victory could be read as arrogance, or as a stunt, but I don't think that's what it was.

They BLEW IT. The team read their data wrong, and made a really bad call. Then someone saw MSNBC rolling their collective eyes and wondering what in the world they were thinking, realized they'd just ensured the big story would now be the premature claim of victory, and made a quick call to get out of Dodge immediately.

- Started out of the blue with no announcement, stepping all over Cruz' speech in the process, a severe breach of protocol.

- HRC gave a solid speech, but spoke awkwardly around the whole issue of who won. She bit off every word like she was chewing wood.

- The campaign apparently dropped elaborate plans for Bill and Chelsea to speak, and raced off without thanking the local team, another big breach of manners.

It reads like panic, not hubris.

Wow. These are not happy people.*



*Well, except for the kid with stickers on his face, who is clearly having a great time.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
36. Bubba had a similar look in 2008, the night it became mathematically impossible for her to
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:30 AM
Feb 2016

defeat Obama.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
37. That one says a lot more than a 1000 words
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:30 AM
Feb 2016

There are a number of messed up precincts so maybe they know the results could (or will) turn.

I don't really care how they jiggle the numbers. They threw every dirty trick and an extra $29 million at Bernie and they couldn't beat him losing a 55 pt margin in 8 months. So they really lost. They missed theirr chance to bury him before he got going and they know it.

For all this crap they have spewed about his electability, they couldn't beat him. So some folks are going to say to themselves, "wait a minute ... what is this guy all about .. Hilary couldn't beat him with all her advantages" and Bernie will get a bump while Hillary takes one.

On Feb 9th, they're likely going to get creamed in New Hampshire. So they've got 20 pretty tough media days ahead of them and they know it - which is pretty damaging to her campaign. Bernie has 20 pretty good media days ahead of him. For the first time, some media will pay attention and give him some coverage - that helps as a free advertisement.

I don't expect media miracles. Some will continue to bushwhack him. But he came through a very tough stretch without getting knocked off and with about $50 mil in the bank.

Not too shabby. Not much for the Clintons to smile about.

Response to DirkGently (Reply #19)

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
20. She and Bubba had a party to get to on Jamie Dimon's yacht.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:49 AM
Feb 2016

They're runnin low on cash and had to pick up some "donations"..... besides, she's done with Iowans unless she needs them in the GE.....

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
66. No, there's no snow storm here yet
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:29 AM
Feb 2016

It's after 3:00 a.m. here now, and there's still no sign of snow.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
63. I can't blame her
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:31 AM
Feb 2016

That must have been pretty painful for her. She didn't get the result she wanted and was embarrassed on top of it. Not only was there an ego blow because of the results, she clearly thought for a moment it hadn't happened and it appears she may have found out while she was speaking on national television.

Campaigns are extremely emotionally taxing and I'm sure she was probably near tears and wanted to avoid people and be alone. She recovered well during her speech and I do not begrudge her the time it takes to decompress and regroup. Everything changed and there is work to do to regroup.

It was a pretty rotten night for her. She deserves some slack here.

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