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Obama alums lash out at Sanders
Theres nothing that drives the president and his aides crazier than the idea that hes not a true progressive, or that hes sold out on his principles.
By Edward-Isaac Dovere
02/01/16 05:51 PM EST
Backing Hillary Clinton in this years election means swallowing a lot of pride and lingering bitterness for the ultra-competitive Obama alumni. Lashing back at Bernie Sanders for knocking President Barack Obama as a disappointment to progressives makes it easier.
Theres nothing that drives Obama and his current and former aides crazier than the idea that hes not a true progressive, or that hes sold out on his principles. The people who make that argument, they think, are noisemakers who started out reading more into Obama than he ever promised himself, who are never be satisfied with anything, and who are now willfully ignoring Obamas record for the sake of their own talking points.
Sanders embodies all that to them.
And they feel the campaign that hes been running, including some of its closing elements, is rubbing their faces in itparticularly after the Vermont senator spent the last weeks trying to draw closer to Obama. So theyve spent their last few hours before the Iowa caucuses tearing him apart.
He seems to be talking out of both sides of his mouth, said Tommy Vietor, an Obama 2008 campaign alum and former National Security Council spokesman. He knows that Obamas at a 90 percent approval rating in Iowa. Hes seemingly tempered his language in trying to play up all the work Obama did, but also offering criticisms that arent really rooted in the realities of what happened.
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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-progressives-barack-obama-218562#ixzz3yzQdlVf6
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Bernie is the perfect candidate to further what Obama started and lead the party back to the left where it belongs.
kath
(10,565 posts)Response to riversedge (Original post)
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FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)about the President.
That's what I always thought, that many Bernie Supporters really don't like this President!
Good to know!
Thank you for that!
John Poet
(2,510 posts)he's done. There were a few big disappointments to me.
#1- Keeping that Bush neoconservative Gates on as Secretary of Defense. That was a fucking jaw-dropper.
#2- Using extension of the Bush tax cuts as a trading chip with Republicans.
#3- Keeping all of the Bush-era attacks on civil liberties in place, starting with the Gitmo facility. I know he may be blocked on that, but maybe he shouldn't have promised it would be closed.
#4- Not being tougher with the Republicans in general, but I had no right to expect that he would be.
I still like him, and I argued against primarying him in 2012 when it was discussed on DailyKos.
Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #8)
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senz
(11,945 posts)I've always liked Obama. I worked hard to get him reelected.
What turned me totally off Hillary was her vile racist treatment of Obama in 2008.
So it could be your pat little theories don't add up to much of anything.
Good to know?
You're so welcome.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)#2
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)Kall
(615 posts)... when Obama ran ads in 2008 railing against the fact that Bush cut deals with Billy Tauzin the pharmaceutical lobbyist to prevent Medicare from negotiating drug prices, then invited Billy Tauzin the pharmaceutical lobbyist into the White House to cut a deal when designing the ACA...
Docreed2003
(16,875 posts)Docreed2003
(16,875 posts)Were called effing retards by the President's Chief of Staff not months into the presidency. If you want to discuss the good things Pres Obama has accomplished I'm all for that. However, there was a HUGE groundswell of support behind the President in '08 and we we're rebuffed by the "very serious" types in the inner circle. Essentially the progressive grassroots folks who had built OFA were told to "Go home...we've got this". If you lived through those times you know that it's not progressives who have turned their backs on the president....
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)and certainly not by Obama....
That what you said has been rephrased to mean to possible worse....
perhaps you don't know this, or perhaps you don't care.
But keep up that story. That just lets me know that the other accusations about Hillary Clinton are also
not true....just innuendos, rumors, trash talk, red meat words throwing, exaggerations, etc., etc., etc...
I've learned more in the last 2 weeks being back here on DU about Bernie Sanders Supporters than I have about Bernie Sanders!
Thank you for that!
Docreed2003
(16,875 posts)And I never said that Pres Obama called us that. Rahm certainly did and his presence in the WH certainly changed what many hoped would be a progressive victory.
Here you go...if you need a reminder...
[link:http://www.rawstory.com/2010/01/fire-obamas-chief-staff-calls-liberal-strategy-fucking-retarded/|
murielm99
(30,761 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)Docreed2003
(16,875 posts)I merely wanted to point out that there were many ardent supporters of the President who received ridiculous push back from the power brokers in the Oval. I don't think that's an unfair assessment. I'm in no way angry at the President. I proudly served under him in Afghanistan in '11 and I would gladly do it again. My point was to shine a light on how those of the left have been dismissed by some in the administration
jfern
(5,204 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Senator Sanders and President Obama get along FINE, as they have for years.
They have campaigned for one another and respect each other.
They have each said so.
Their relationship is way beyond your reach in high-level decency and cordiality.
There is nothing whatsoever you can do about it.
So grouse all you want.