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riversedge

(70,299 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:47 AM Feb 2016

Obama alums lash out at Sanders

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Obama alums lash out at Sanders

There’s nothing that drives the president and his aides crazier than the idea that he’s not a true progressive, or that he’s sold out on his principles.

By Edward-Isaac Dovere

02/01/16 05:51 PM EST

Backing Hillary Clinton in this year’s election means swallowing a lot of pride and lingering bitterness for the ultra-competitive Obama alumni. Lashing back at Bernie Sanders for knocking President Barack Obama as a disappointment to progressives makes it easier.

There’s nothing that drives Obama and his current and former aides crazier than the idea that he’s not a true progressive, or that he’s sold out on his principles. The people who make that argument, they think, are noisemakers who started out reading more into Obama than he ever promised himself, who are never be satisfied with anything, and who are now willfully ignoring Obama’s record for the sake of their own talking points.

Sanders embodies all that to them.

And they feel the campaign that he’s been running, including some of its closing elements, is rubbing their faces in it—particularly after the Vermont senator spent the last weeks trying to draw closer to Obama. So they’ve spent their last few hours before the Iowa caucuses tearing him apart.

“He seems to be talking out of both sides of his mouth,” said Tommy Vietor, an Obama 2008 campaign alum and former National Security Council spokesman. “He knows that Obama’s at a 90 percent approval rating in Iowa. He’s seemingly tempered his language in trying to play up all the work Obama did, but also offering criticisms that aren’t really rooted in the realities of what happened.”
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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-progressives-barack-obama-218562#ixzz3yzQdlVf6

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Obama alums lash out at Sanders (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2016 OP
Obama alums need to lineup for Hillary. Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #1
Coin flippers already have. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #5
Bull, we didn't want Hillary then and we don't want her now. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #7
Well, Obama alums, if the shoe fits... kath Feb 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #3
That's the kind of talk I am more accustomed FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #8
I've always liked Obama, but that doesn't mean I've approved of everything John Poet Feb 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #18
Don't be so sure about that... senz Feb 2016 #20
Gitmo pinebox Feb 2016 #4
Oh well. SamKnause Feb 2016 #6
Sure, let's talk about the "realities of what happened"... Kall Feb 2016 #9
Made me sick....nt Docreed2003 Feb 2016 #11
Liberals and progressives... Docreed2003 Feb 2016 #10
That's not what Liberals and progressives were called.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #12
My post is the truth... Docreed2003 Feb 2016 #13
Well, Rahm was not there long, was he? murielm99 Feb 2016 #17
In all fairness, Rahm is not Obama. John Poet Feb 2016 #16
I didn't say he was... Docreed2003 Feb 2016 #19
We welcome the hatred of Rahm Emanuel jfern Feb 2016 #14
Hey riversedge senz Feb 2016 #21

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
7. Bull, we didn't want Hillary then and we don't want her now.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:57 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie is the perfect candidate to further what Obama started and lead the party back to the left where it belongs.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
8. That's the kind of talk I am more accustomed
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:59 AM
Feb 2016

about the President.

That's what I always thought, that many Bernie Supporters really don't like this President!

Good to know!

Thank you for that!

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
15. I've always liked Obama, but that doesn't mean I've approved of everything
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:28 AM
Feb 2016

he's done. There were a few big disappointments to me.

#1- Keeping that Bush neoconservative Gates on as Secretary of Defense. That was a fucking jaw-dropper.

#2- Using extension of the Bush tax cuts as a trading chip with Republicans.

#3- Keeping all of the Bush-era attacks on civil liberties in place, starting with the Gitmo facility. I know he may be blocked on that, but maybe he shouldn't have promised it would be closed.

#4- Not being tougher with the Republicans in general, but I had no right to expect that he would be.

I still like him, and I argued against primarying him in 2012 when it was discussed on DailyKos.

Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #8)

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
20. Don't be so sure about that...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:41 AM
Feb 2016

I've always liked Obama. I worked hard to get him reelected.

What turned me totally off Hillary was her vile racist treatment of Obama in 2008.

So it could be your pat little theories don't add up to much of anything.

Good to know?

You're so welcome.

Kall

(615 posts)
9. Sure, let's talk about the "realities of what happened"...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:00 AM
Feb 2016

... when Obama ran ads in 2008 railing against the fact that Bush cut deals with Billy Tauzin the pharmaceutical lobbyist to prevent Medicare from negotiating drug prices, then invited Billy Tauzin the pharmaceutical lobbyist into the White House to cut a deal when designing the ACA...

Docreed2003

(16,875 posts)
10. Liberals and progressives...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:01 AM
Feb 2016

Were called effing retards by the President's Chief of Staff not months into the presidency. If you want to discuss the good things Pres Obama has accomplished I'm all for that. However, there was a HUGE groundswell of support behind the President in '08 and we we're rebuffed by the "very serious" types in the inner circle. Essentially the progressive grassroots folks who had built OFA were told to "Go home...we've got this". If you lived through those times you know that it's not progressives who have turned their backs on the president....

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
12. That's not what Liberals and progressives were called....
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:06 AM
Feb 2016

and certainly not by Obama....

That what you said has been rephrased to mean to possible worse....
perhaps you don't know this, or perhaps you don't care.

But keep up that story. That just lets me know that the other accusations about Hillary Clinton are also
not true....just innuendos, rumors, trash talk, red meat words throwing, exaggerations, etc., etc., etc...

I've learned more in the last 2 weeks being back here on DU about Bernie Sanders Supporters than I have about Bernie Sanders!

Thank you for that!

Docreed2003

(16,875 posts)
13. My post is the truth...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:18 AM
Feb 2016

And I never said that Pres Obama called us that. Rahm certainly did and his presence in the WH certainly changed what many hoped would be a progressive victory.

Here you go...if you need a reminder...

[link:http://www.rawstory.com/2010/01/fire-obamas-chief-staff-calls-liberal-strategy-fucking-retarded/|

Docreed2003

(16,875 posts)
19. I didn't say he was...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:39 AM
Feb 2016

I merely wanted to point out that there were many ardent supporters of the President who received ridiculous push back from the power brokers in the Oval. I don't think that's an unfair assessment. I'm in no way angry at the President. I proudly served under him in Afghanistan in '11 and I would gladly do it again. My point was to shine a light on how those of the left have been dismissed by some in the administration

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
21. Hey riversedge
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:53 AM
Feb 2016

Senator Sanders and President Obama get along FINE, as they have for years.

They have campaigned for one another and respect each other.

They have each said so.

Their relationship is way beyond your reach in high-level decency and cordiality.

There is nothing whatsoever you can do about it.

So grouse all you want.

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