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pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:17 AM Feb 2016

NPR: Clinton edges Sanders

http://www.npr.org/2016/02/02/465193561/cruz-wins-iowa-republican-caucus-clinton-sanders-still-too-close-to-call

Hillary Clinton won the Iowa Democratic caucuses, according to the Iowa Democratic Party. Based on the results of Monday's caucuses, the IDP says Clinton received 699.57 state delegate equivalents, to Sanders 695.49.

There are currently 2.28 outstanding, not enough for Sanders to make up the difference. There is no mechanism for a recount.
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NPR: Clinton edges Sanders (Original Post) pnwmom Feb 2016 OP
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #1
K & R! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #5
K AND R! JaneyVee Feb 2016 #2
K & R Iliyah Feb 2016 #3
You all are so excited by 0.3% lead? Matariki Feb 2016 #4
She was running in a state that is heavily white and rural, pnwmom Feb 2016 #8
Keep telling yourself that. Matariki Feb 2016 #10
But, Bernie won all the same. tecelote Feb 2016 #6
29-21? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #7
21-21 but all 8 SDs WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #9
Only 4 of the supers had endorsed Hillary. The other four were uncommitted. pnwmom Feb 2016 #14
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #11
We lost 6 coin tosses in a row, but we won the popular vote and tied for delegates. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #12
You don't know Bernie won the popular vote. It could have easily been EITHER candidate. pnwmom Feb 2016 #13
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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. K AND R!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:20 AM
Feb 2016

All we heard was "wait until debates, Bernie will destroy Hillary!". NOPE. then it was "wait until Iowa and the Bernie revolution takes over!". NOPE.

I'll stick with my prediction: Hillary wins 45 states, Bernie wins 5.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
4. You all are so excited by 0.3% lead?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:23 AM
Feb 2016

I guess I would be too. But then my candidate was never the front runner or leading by huge margins at one point.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
8. She was running in a state that is heavily white and rural,
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:27 AM
Feb 2016

while her greatest strength has been with minority voters.

And she lost Iowa last time.

People forget how close she was to Obama at the end -- less than 1/2 of a percentage point between them.

So she's starting off better now than she did then -- and she'll be very strong in the southern states. She's in good shape.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
6. But, Bernie won all the same.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:25 AM
Feb 2016

He was a no name Senator who got a fraction of the air time up until now.

Because of his strong showing, and his upcoming win in NH, he will start to get the airtime he deserves.

The more people hear him speak, the more he surges.

Bernie won the national stage and it will carry him to the Whitehouse.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
13. You don't know Bernie won the popular vote. It could have easily been EITHER candidate.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:40 AM
Feb 2016

Delegate counts in Iowa are not strictly connected to voter counts. Depending on what precinct you vote in and who else is voting there, your vote counts more -- or less -- than someone else's.

For example, in a small county with only 2 delegates, one candidate with 25% of the voters would get 1 delegate. The other candidate with 75% of the voters would get the other delegate. So a candidate with 1 delegate could have had anywhere from 25 - 75% of the voters.

So you can't even guess how many voters are associated with the number of delegates that have been assigned. It varies from precinct to precinct.

This is their nutty system. (I can say that -- my state has a similarly nutty caucus system.) What's crazy is that we let this small, caucus state be one of the key bellwethers in the primary.

Here are the official rules for delegate assignment.

http://iowademocrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IDP-Caucus-Math-One-Pager.pdf


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