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Yes, I agree. No media outlet that I know of mentioned Hillary's groundbreaking story into history! Shame on the them.
EPIC FAIL: Elite Media Furiously Spin Defeat of Their Anti-Hillary Agenda in Iowa
http://bluenationreview.com/elite-media-furiously-spin-defeat-of-their-anti-hillary-agenda/
By Peter Daou
February 2, 2016
Three contests took place in Iowa last night.
The first was Trump versus reality: Reality won.
The second was Hillary versus Bernie: Hillary won.
The third was the elite anti-Hillary media versus the people: The people won.
History was made twice at the hands of Iowas voters. No woman has ever won the Iowa caucus. And no candidate has ever won after a monumental effort by the national media and commentariat to eviscerate her integrity, to lie, lie and lie some more about her trustworthiness and honesty.
media spin
A headline on CNN.com reads: Clintons Tough Night.
No, Hillary didnt have a tough night, she had a groundbreaking night in the Hawkeye State. But all youll hear today is spin about her trustworthiness (which in fact is the direct effect of non-stop Hillary bashing), retroactive expectations-setting about the margin of her victory and denial from those who have devoted an entire year to undermining her campaign with lies and smears......................
Tweet:
@BlueNationRev For the 1st TIME in US History a woman- wins Iowa Caucus! The Force was with Hillary>V-I-C-T-O-R-Y This is the story! #p2
DanTex
(20,709 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)lots of coverage. Even now they aren't giving Sanders the credit of essentially tying the "front runner" backed by Citizens United the big money of Wall Street.
This is a battle of Citizens United vs. the People. I'd say we did pretty well fighting the Big Money.
mcar
(42,372 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)It's that simple.
dsc
(52,166 posts)no wait he lives on the Sunday shows. Is there any Sunday in the last 3 months he hasn't done at least 1?
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)The evidence is clear in refuting EVERYTHING about your post. Go on line... watch just what she did in the past week... First screaming that "Universal health care can Never Ever Happen... To Making Universal health care happen IF she's selected..."
The Meltdown back stage the other night! The list goes on and on... landing under sniper fire in Bosnia... Chelsea jogging around the world trade center on 9/11... Being named after Sir Edmund Hillary... Advocating for a No Fly Zone over Syria... Shoot down Russian planes???%$#&@#$This IS ENTIRELY about TRUST and INTEGRITY! Bernie has it ... Hillary not so much.... She has ONLY to blame her OWN judgement over the years...
THIS is just a sampling... And you think Hillary deserves to be President? Please remove head from sand...
Look objectively at the facts and make a better more informed decision as to who you choose to support for this very important position.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)The "gold standard" Des Moines Register- Hillary by 3
Hillary Supporters were posting Iowa polls with under them 4 months ago......
Robby Mook put 90% of Team Hillary's resources into Iowa and her support plummeted....
The only Epic Fail is her collapse of support.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Admit it, there's a genuine insurgency at the gates of your citadel.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)I will leave you with your security blanket.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)side with Goldman-Sachs and Wall Street for the promise of "security". This is a class war.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)it's very unbecoming.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)the fact we've been sold the idea that Hillary is the best, safest hedge against a GOP taking the WH. She had the infrastructure and support (of all the wrong people) to win. In order to make that happen we were also told we had to sacrifice the very things we were fighting for merely 8 years ago, i.e. single-payer and no more wars of self-indulgence. Those with the temerity to stick to their principles over sure-they're-corporatists-but-at-least-they're-our-corporatists were branded racist and sexist.
And now the best, safest hedge has been shown to claim victory while the insurgents are at the citadel's gates secured only by a few coin tosses and several dozen uncounted precincts.
That's pathetic.
This is an anti-Establishment election cycle. Just look across the aisle at the GOPers. Their anti-Establishment candidates hold a combined total of better than 2:1 over the Establishment's second choice, Rubio.
And we have yet to hear from the Independents.
Hillary won by 6 highly improbable coin tosses with everything she had going into this race. She has ceased to be the safe bet. She can't rely on 1-in-64 odds to carry her through the general election.
The Establishment is going to lose this election and so will anyone who hides under their banner.
blue neen
(12,328 posts)this discussion.
I'm sure you can do better next time you make an analogy.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Just out of curiosity, is Libya considered a win? It definitely seems like it belongs in the "W" column.
blue neen
(12,328 posts)Right. Tells me all I need to know about you.
Bye.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Or is righteous indignation only count when it's politically expedient?
earthside
(6,960 posts)And a come-from-behind win for Sanders.
There is enough messed-up in Iowa that for anyone to call the results of last night's caucuses a win is just wrong.
This is huge for Sanders. We heard here for months from the Hillarians that Iowa was Clinton's ... from the polls to all the establishment endorsements, to all the money, etc.
And the best she could do is tie a guy who most Iowans and American hadn't even heard of six months ago.
By tomorrow even the establishment media that had Hillary all but coronated will be talking about the Sanders upset in Iowa and Sanders momentum.
I'm sure inside the Clinton campaign they are mumbling that old aphorism ... anymore 'victories' like this and we're done for.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)All of Bernie's? Pure vote and passion. So who really won?
cali
(114,904 posts)That has overwhelmingly endorsed her and punched hard at bernie for the past 2 weeks?
One of the silliest Hillary myths of all.
That dog doesn't even make it off its doggy bed, let alone hunt.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Did you ever have to yell at the dog because he's licking himself so loudly and won't quit while company is watching?
I hate that.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Ignoring reality doesn't change it.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)What a ***kin joke eh?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)Media is doing everything they can to give this race the appearance of being a "dogfight". They want this primary to stay competitive for as long as possible so they have more to report on and more for people to tune in to. People aren't going to tune in to watch reports such as "Clinton leads SC by 30 points".
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Oh wait, that would be an insane claim to make.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Because a Bernie win is a sure-fire way to get another Republican into the White House.
Bernie's been on teevee and radio almost every day, and surely every weekend. The point we were making was, he's not being VETTED by the media who'd gotten their marching orders to tear Hillary Clinton apart every chance they got. Even now, the media is trying to turn Hillary's historical win in Iowa into something negative.
Bernie, in contrast, was being fawned over to gin up the hype for him - and they FAILED in Iowa last night. All those tens of thousands of people showing up at his rallies didn't translate - as Hillary Clinton supporters were telling you and your fellow Berners - into votes.
Perhaps a lesson learned here, jeff? Nah. I'm afraid not.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Sanders only started getting media attention in the last month. If they were "all in", they would have been covering the hell out of him since he announced.
Clinton spent 90% of her money the last 3 months on Iowa. She sacrificed her super Tuesday strategy - now has no paid staff in several super Tuesday states. The "ground game" required for caucuses massively favors her endorsement lead. She spent twice as much money.
And she tied.
But please, continue to show us the content of your character in your whining. It really helps when deciding if one can hold their nose and vote the way you want in the general.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Iowa was tailor-made to Sanders' strengths. U.S. Media have NOT vetted the man even slightly. Yet, he STILL LOST.
Case in point: no media are reporting that Hillary's win in Iowa is [font color="red"]HISTORICAL[/font] as the first woman to win the State. Instead, much like you, they're working very hard to play down her historical win.
[font color="red" size="5" ]A WIN is a WIN is a WIN is a WIN.[/font]
Woman POWER!!
retrowire
(10,345 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)He didn't. That, alone, is a major fail on his part.
He also needed to win Iowa by a large margin. Couldn't pull that off, either.
He's behind in the delegate count that could've won him the State despite being behind Hillary Clinton. Couldn't pull that off, either.
So how again do you conclude he didn't lose?
retrowire
(10,345 posts)And how many of Bernie's were won by the actual will of the people?
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)[font color="red" size="5" ]A WIN is a WIN is a WIN is a WIN.[/font]
Woman POWER!! The Democratic Party WON last night. Why the sadz?
From Slate:
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Where did I show any sadness? Please, I'll wait. lmao
Good for you though. You can type in big red letters. XD
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)You Hillary folks really didn't have a happy night did you.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)You Hillary folks really didn't have a happy night did you.
Haven't seen my posts this morning? Or those of other Hillary Clinton supporters? We've been DANCING.
[font color="red" size="5" ]A WIN is a WIN is a WIN is a WIN.[/font]
Woman POWER!! The Democratic Party WON last night. Why the sadz?
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)When someone has a constant giant smile on their face, and they keep insisting on telling you how 'VERY VERY HAPPY THEY ARE, SERIOUSLY JUST SO HAPPY!!' then a cynical person might wonder..
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Last night will end up being 22-22. Sorry if that doesn't feel as much of a win as you'd hoped. Enjoy the dance tho.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Bernie couldn't beat Hillary Clinton in a State TAILOR-MADE to his strengths! Woooohoooo!
[font color="red" size="5" ]A WIN is a WIN is a WIN is a WIN.[/font]
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)cross over to Bernie - especially since he's such a shoe-in, what with all the support he's getting from PoC.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Our candidate won.
Very strange that you say we didn't have a happy night.
frylock
(34,825 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)My purpose in life is to convince you.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)and it's hilarious that you are spinning it.
On one side you have a candidate with a 98% name recognition who has won most admired woman in the world multiple times, a former FLOTUS and is one of the most recognized people on the planet.
On the other side you have a guy who had 4% name recognition who his opponents have called a "socialist" and say he is not electable just tied the biggest political name on the planet.
But Hillary didn't lose.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)who is running a SuperPAC that coordinates with the Clinton campaign. And is also behind the massively sleazy attacks of the last few weeks.
The OP might as well be citing infowars.com
But hey, it is the silly season!
frylock
(34,825 posts)Run it!
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I should have known that.
Nanjeanne
(4,975 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)She won 6 out of 7. Sanders wins 4 out of 7, and he gets more delegates.
Nanjeanne
(4,975 posts)Ron Green
(9,823 posts)Which is the bigger story?
Laser102
(816 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)[font color="red" size="5" ]A WIN is a WIN is a WIN is a WIN.[/font]
Woman POWER!! The Democratic Party WON last night.
For you, Laser102 -
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)A 'news' site owned by a SuperPAC run by David Brock. A SuperPAC who received their largest donation from Hillary's own campaign. This 'news' site is now complaining that the 'Elite Media Furiously Spin Defeat of Their Anti-Hillary Agenda in Iowa'.
I'm fairly sure that if this was fiction, people would complain it just wasn't believable enough.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Her behavior at the end was the cherry on top.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)And to think that Howard Dean lost by just a little enthusiasm.
earthside
(6,960 posts)After looking elsewhere around DU, I was struck again by this post.
If there is anything that speaks to the near desperation of the Hillarians this morning it is an article like the one noted here in David Brock's Blue Nation Review.
The mainstream establishment corporate media that have assumed for over a year that Hillary Clinton was going to be the 2016 presidential nominee of the Democratic party is now .... the elite anti-Hillary media!!!
That the Clinton campaign, the Hillarians, and the Democratic Party establishment feel compelled to adopt this line of spin is almost all the proof you need that even they see Hillary's pyrrhic tie yesterday as a defeat.
In the next few days the frantic panic of the liberal establishment is going to be something to behold, in my estimation. All those establishment endorsements; all those millions and millions of dollars from bankers and investors to the Clinton SuperPAC; all the 'conventional wisdom"; all upset by a democratic socialist that most Iowans and Americans hadn't even heard of six months ago.
The 'force' obviously isn't with Hillary ... the empire is on the ropes and the rebel alliance is going ground.
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)BWHAAAAHAHAHAHA!!! Newsflash: It wasn't the media that wiped her emails clean. Now I've heard it all!
basselope
(2,565 posts)FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)and then y'all would request a recount,
and then chaos might ensue...
The candidate who they really want, Marco Rubio,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110738863
will be able to win the election sounding semi sane against a guy calling for Revolution.
Hillary is not who the media is backing....
not even close!
Read this...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110740076
basselope
(2,565 posts)TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)Keerist, are the Clintonista apparatchiks desperate. I'm looking forward to laughing at your interpretation of the results in NH next week, so keep up the good work.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)It is going to be fun.
treestar
(82,383 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)impressive victory, by God!
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840high
(17,196 posts)Bernie!!!!
6chars
(3,967 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)please