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Related: About this forumA pyrrhic tie for Clinton.
A win in Iowa for Sanders.A pyrrhic tie for Clinton.
When a guy most Iowans and Americans hadn't even heard of six months ago, and who at one point was down 53 points in the polls, battles to a draw with someone of Hillary's stature -- it is a big win for the Sanders.
Clinton is a terribly flawed candidate and likely a loser to a Trump or Rubio. Democrats need to get over this 'first woman president' thing and get serious about who connects with and champions average working Americans ... or they are going to hand the White House over to the Republicans in January 2017.
Hard-nosed Democratic pols are going to understand this in the days before the New Hampshire primary, as will the Clinton campaign, and as will Hillarians (though they won't admit it): Hillary is the same -- but eight years older -- uninspiring, conservative, one percent candidate she was in 2008.
It is going to get real interesting as the Clintons and the Democratic Party establishment go into frantic panic mode during the next few weeks ... they know they've got big trouble.
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A pyrrhic tie for Clinton. (Original Post)
earthside
Feb 2016
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ucrdem
(15,512 posts)1. She won by 4 delegates.
Not a tie.
and that's because of a handful of coin-flips. So numerically it may not be a tie, but that's how it will be perceived by any rational observer.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)4. AP says 4, with 100% of precincts reporting:
AS OF FEB. 2, 2016, 10:24 a.m. EST
100.0% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING (1,681 OF 1,681)
NAME VOTES PERCENT
Hillary Clinton 701 49.9%
Bernie Sanders 697 49.6%
Martin OMalley 8 0.6%
Uncommitted 0 0.0%
Other 0 0.0%
100.0% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING (1,681 OF 1,681)
NAME VOTES PERCENT
Hillary Clinton 701 49.9%
Bernie Sanders 697 49.6%
Martin OMalley 8 0.6%
Uncommitted 0 0.0%
Other 0 0.0%
https://elections.npr.org/
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)7. Which will translate into 22-22 delegates.
How is that not a tie?
Jackilope
(819 posts)5. Hmm, are you game to flip a coin on that?
That close and coin flips? It isn't a full on bonafide win.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)6. And 5 coin tosses...
definitely a winner.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)2. Yep, gonna get real interesting from here. The look on Bills face said it all last night
when she was giving her "victory speech"