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earthside

(6,960 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:40 AM Feb 2016

A pyrrhic tie for Clinton.

A win in Iowa for Sanders.
A pyrrhic tie for Clinton.

When a guy most Iowans and Americans hadn't even heard of six months ago, and who at one point was down 53 points in the polls, battles to a draw with someone of Hillary's stature -- it is a big win for the Sanders.

Clinton is a terribly flawed candidate and likely a loser to a Trump or Rubio. Democrats need to get over this 'first woman president' thing and get serious about who connects with and champions average working Americans ... or they are going to hand the White House over to the Republicans in January 2017.

Hard-nosed Democratic pols are going to understand this in the days before the New Hampshire primary, as will the Clinton campaign, and as will Hillarians (though they won't admit it): Hillary is the same -- but eight years older -- uninspiring, conservative, one percent candidate she was in 2008.

It is going to get real interesting as the Clintons and the Democratic Party establishment go into frantic panic mode during the next few weeks ... they know they've got big trouble.


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A pyrrhic tie for Clinton. (Original Post) earthside Feb 2016 OP
She won by 4 delegates. ucrdem Feb 2016 #1
2 delegates eqfan592 Feb 2016 #3
AP says 4, with 100% of precincts reporting: ucrdem Feb 2016 #4
Which will translate into 22-22 delegates. Kentonio Feb 2016 #7
Hmm, are you game to flip a coin on that? Jackilope Feb 2016 #5
And 5 coin tosses... daleanime Feb 2016 #6
Yep, gonna get real interesting from here. The look on Bills face said it all last night Autumn Feb 2016 #2

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
3. 2 delegates
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:44 AM
Feb 2016

and that's because of a handful of coin-flips. So numerically it may not be a tie, but that's how it will be perceived by any rational observer.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
4. AP says 4, with 100% of precincts reporting:
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:46 AM
Feb 2016
AS OF FEB. 2, 2016, 10:24 a.m. EST
100.0% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING (1,681 OF 1,681)
NAME VOTES PERCENT
Hillary Clinton 701 49.9%
Bernie Sanders 697 49.6%
Martin O’Malley 8 0.6%
Uncommitted 0 0.0%
Other 0 0.0%


https://elections.npr.org/

Jackilope

(819 posts)
5. Hmm, are you game to flip a coin on that?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:48 AM
Feb 2016


That close and coin flips? It isn't a full on bonafide win.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
2. Yep, gonna get real interesting from here. The look on Bills face said it all last night
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:43 AM
Feb 2016

when she was giving her "victory speech"

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