2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBREAKING: HILLARY CLINTON DECLARED THE WINNER IN IOWA!
Congrats, Hillary!
DES MOINES Hillary Clinton was declared the winner of the Iowa caucuses on Tuesday after final vote counts showed her narrowly beating Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, according to The Associated Press and other news organizations.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/03/us/politics/hillary-clinton-declared-winner-of-iowa-caucuses.html?_r=0
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)Such a close result in a state she was leading by 30 points a couple months ago is not much of a victory for her.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)They didn't amount to much. Even in this tight of a race.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)I am not super familiar with the caucus rules, but would those county delegates not have a role in choosing that final state delegate?
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Similar situations played out at various precincts across the state, but had an extremely small effect on the overall outcome, in which Clinton won 49.9 percent of statewide delegate equivalents, while Sanders won 49.5 percent. The delegates that were decided by coin flips were delegates to the party's county conventions, of which there are thousands selected across the state from 1,681 separate precincts. They were not the statewide delegate equivalents that are reported in the final results.
The statewide delegate equivalents that determine the outcome on caucus night are derived from the county-level delegates, but are aggregated across the state and weighted in a manner that makes individual county delegate selections at a handful of precincts count for a tiny fraction of the ultimate result.
George II
(67,782 posts)...you may want to read this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511123143
George II
(67,782 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)I assure you, the Clinton campaign is not celebrating. Bernie's campaign is.
mvd
(65,180 posts)0.3% in a caucus with coin flips? Congrats to both on a good job though.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)Very emblematic of the current democratic party situation. We must "win" in November, only to be eventually stonewalled by our own "scared of their own shadow" members of the House and Senate when it comes to bold legislation. Just ask Obama.
JI7
(89,264 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)A hard fought win based on good ground game.
Alfresco
(1,698 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)Yeah Bernie!. And that's not counting the shenanigans documented here on DU by the Hill campaign.
This is a big deal for Bernie. And a big blow for the Hillarians.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)a microscope in order to see
livetohike
(22,163 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Right after everyone has seen the news in the morning.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts):/
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)From down 30 points to .02 points. Fan-fucking-tastic!
Game on Hillarians.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)After that, probably Vermont. But he was polling pretty close in Iowa, so it could have gone either way, but didn't! I'm glad we both have something to celebrate!
panader0
(25,816 posts)And when he wins in New Hampshire, it won't be by .02 points or a coin flip.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)When he was down 30 points, he'd barely started running. Obviously he was never going to stay that low, that's silly.
jkbRN
(850 posts)Hillarys camp doesn't feel like it was a win, because basically, it wasn't.
And three, if you don't want to take our word for it, here's the attitude inside Clinton Land. "Clinton advisers said they did not know if a significant staff shakeup was at hand, but they said that the Clintons were disappointed with Monday night's result and wanted to ensure that her organization, political messaging and communications strategy were in better shape for the contests to come," the New York Times writes.
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read-why-clinton-s-apparent-iowa-win-feels-more-n509606
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Let's have a parade
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]
SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)She was down in Iowa just a few weeks ago and managed to climb back and pull out a win. She's a fighter, and so are her supporters!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Beacool
(30,251 posts)First woman to win the IA caucus.
Also congratulations to Sen. Sanders. It was a well fought and extremely close race.
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onehandle
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bowens43
(16,064 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)I think South Carolina is going to be a much more significant test.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Congratulations Hillary!
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts).
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)She won by a few VOTES not points.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)caucuses as Democrats (and perhaps more because we don't know the raw vote totals) chose the other guys (including O'Malley supporters, too). This despite Hillary's enormous advantages in terms of money, organization, and endorsements. I would hardly be jumping up and down, and your all caps headline, as though Hillary took it by a landslide, is just obnoxious. For all intents and purposes Iowa was a draw. Now it's on to New Hampshire and let's see what happens there.
frylock
(34,825 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)K&R
modestybl
(458 posts)... just before the trendlines caught up with you...
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-caucus
last pollster trend: HRC 47.7
BS 44.6
last night: HRC 49.8
BS 49.6
You guys didn't it coming ...
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)Mrs. Clinton quickly sought to capitalize on the skin-of-her-teeth victory, presenting herself as a winner during a rally in New Hampshire on Tuesday morning as she and Mr. Sanders intensified their competition to win the primary there.
Don't know if I'd break out the fireworks just yet. A sparkler or two, certainly. Congrats.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)(Lucky, or supported by the establishment. Because she certainly doesn't inspire enthousiasm or votes. She lost the youth votes by 70 percent. Going with her would be a GE disaster that would put 2014 in the shadow.)
mcar
(42,372 posts)Perogie
(687 posts)That's what it came down to. Not that more people wanted HRC. She just had better luck on the coin flips.
Great job Hillary.
With all your powerful backers and endorsements. All the big money contributors.
The name recognition from running for President since 2006.
Bringing in the big dawg Bill into Iowa.
You won it by a coin toss. I sincerely congratulate HRC on her luck.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Nanjeanne
(4,975 posts)Hillary gave a speech very much like one would expect from someone who is the "winner". And because she touts her experience as the primary reason to vote for her - her speech was all about what "I will do".
Bernie, on the other hand, gave a gracious speech about both his competitors, while pointing out the truth, that the results were a virtual tie - and his speech was all about what "We can do".
riversedge
(70,299 posts)For the 1st TIME in US History a woman- wins Iowa Caucus! The Force was with Hillary--->V-I-C-T-O-R-Y
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)And you get 1 delegate. Like Napoleon declaring the Russian campaign a successful victory since they still had troops left.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)The Annointed One did NOT sweep Iowa!
She didn't even get 50%!
ismnotwasm
(42,008 posts)Eh, didn't do anything for me.
Congratulations to Hillary Clintion! Let's take her to the White House!
ORjohn
(36 posts)pandr32
(11,611 posts)Won't be long now!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It's a funny squeaking sound.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I'm glad. It may be a marginal win, but it's a win, and she worked so hard for it.
(I think just one of Hillary's typical days would kill me. Thrown in cold anyway.)
basselope
(2,565 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...plus at least six Super Delegates.