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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:47 PM Feb 2016

Bernstein on CNN: WH is "terrified" that HRC is blowing her campaign and may lose.

He spoke to Poppy Harlow for many minutes, citing reasons why people in the WH have told him that Obama is flabbergasted and unhappy that Hillary has made many mistakes and is not showing well. Harlow actually tamped him down a couple of times, seeming to be afraid to let him say what he had to say.

Will post the video if it comes available.

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Bernstein on CNN: WH is "terrified" that HRC is blowing her campaign and may lose. (Original Post) grasswire Feb 2016 OP
LMAO leftofcool Feb 2016 #1
" this posts has been hidden by a DU Jury" DanTex. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #2
So You're one of THEM!! Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #6
I see what you did there. neverforget Feb 2016 #50
? nt grasswire Feb 2016 #7
Simpsons reference. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #74
I don't doubt it. Punkingal Feb 2016 #3
What mistakes? OhZone Feb 2016 #4
Bernie won IA and I'm sticking to it. Fraud Fraud Fraud bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #28
. DrDan Feb 2016 #99
Its not official on Iowa. So there's that. any other nonsense? dont bother, your now ignored litlbilly Feb 2016 #46
The WH probably expected a real win in Iowa, not just .2% cyberswede Feb 2016 #60
Aha! Old Crow Feb 2016 #69
Dead heat was not a win- her "sigh of relief" said it all Hydra Feb 2016 #80
This post was hidden by jury decision GusBob Feb 2016 #5
new tactic this. actually, its kind of cute. Seriously. :D roguevalley Feb 2016 #11
they are all fucking sparticus Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #12
Or something. bunnies Feb 2016 #32
I guess Bernstein has a direct line to what Pres Obama thinks, fat chance FloridaBlues Feb 2016 #8
if anyone does, it's likely to be Carl. nt grasswire Feb 2016 #15
I'm now picturing HRC hitting Carl in the face with a key lime pie. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #31
Carl Bernstein says angel123 Feb 2016 #21
Good. CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #52
In a primary, certainly. I would love to see our party return to roots and purge the Third Way silvershadow Feb 2016 #61
Hillary isn't bad, she just shouldn't be president. She should have retired. n/t Loudestlib Feb 2016 #64
It was Obama who picked DWS. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #9
Obama picked DWS? She's been a disaster for Democrats...at least Progressive Democrats. OMG. libdem4life Feb 2016 #10
Yes, she's a disaster for progressives. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #14
Queen's plans angel123 Feb 2016 #22
After the classless way both Clintons treated him in 08 you couldn't blame the president tularetom Feb 2016 #13
Huh? He made her Secretary of State. Metric System Feb 2016 #17
To keep her from primarying him in '12. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #25
No, that's Sanders. Metric System Feb 2016 #36
Bernie made her SoS? daleanime Feb 2016 #44
so it took away the possibility of her primaring him in 2012 INdemo Feb 2016 #71
Bernstein sounded like he has an ax to grind. He wasn't exactly complimentary to Sanders either. Metric System Feb 2016 #16
He wasn't really bashing her. moondust Feb 2016 #26
Guess it's Karma Nite Owl Feb 2016 #18
+1 n/t ejbr Feb 2016 #23
+100000000 MissDeeds Feb 2016 #29
+ Brazillian HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #34
Yup. hifiguy Feb 2016 #38
+∞ Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #57
^^ Duppers Feb 2016 #83
Alt + 236 (three numerric characters; no zero in front) Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #86
Thanks. Duppers Feb 2016 #87
Poor Obama m-lekktor Feb 2016 #19
I'm surprised his partner Woodward... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #20
more Clinton scandals? grasswire Feb 2016 #24
It's like that old Dan Hicks (RIP) song hifiguy Feb 2016 #39
Nah. Redford had prior commitments LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #30
:D roguevalley Feb 2016 #68
i'm worried too. i'm a bernie supporter, DesertFlower Feb 2016 #27
+1 JRLeft Feb 2016 #35
You're a Bernie supporter? Since when? INdemo Feb 2016 #73
i've been a bernie supporter since he announced, but DesertFlower Feb 2016 #77
I agree TSIAS Feb 2016 #33
WHY is Obama so invested in Hillary? Duppers Feb 2016 #84
TPP would be my guess Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #91
Thank you, Art! That reason is the most feasible. Duppers Feb 2016 #93
Good to "see" you, too! Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #94
Will do. Duppers Feb 2016 #95
Thanks Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #97
Found a site with some quotes but no video Jarqui Feb 2016 #37
Transcripts are probably being vetter and possibly edited at this moment. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #41
I was thinking the exact same thing. Avalux Feb 2016 #53
Here's the video... johnnyrocket Feb 2016 #40
Oh got it! Thanks again! zentrum Feb 2016 #43
At 6:45 "He has started a movement and that too has the White House upset" Fumesucker Feb 2016 #48
Yeahup..... daleanime Feb 2016 #56
All Them Folks Not Happy With Crumbs! scottie55 Feb 2016 #67
Interesting thanks. leftcoastmountains Feb 2016 #76
amazing video BigBearJohn Feb 2016 #82
Please do Post! Thanks! zentrum Feb 2016 #42
She needs to corral her surrogates and saltpoint Feb 2016 #45
In other words.... johnnyrocket Feb 2016 #47
Yep. Seeing Jon in that visual reminds me saltpoint Feb 2016 #49
And speaking of Jon... kenn3d Feb 2016 #59
There it is. I like his politics. eom saltpoint Feb 2016 #63
I've heard rumors... Oilwellian Feb 2016 #65
Oilwellian, thank you for the saltpoint Feb 2016 #66
And her daughter and her husband and... well, herself, she should start with herself. A Simple Game Feb 2016 #58
There do seem to be some grievous saltpoint Feb 2016 #62
Consistent with her 2008 campaign: She seems to lack a certain self-awareness. sorechasm Feb 2016 #98
Yes. There's a campaign organization issue saltpoint Feb 2016 #100
Those are keeper descriptions! Duppers Feb 2016 #85
More stupid tone deaf out of touch stuff from the D and see elehhhhna Feb 2016 #51
Perhaps Obama is telling people this, perhaps, but really I don't think he likes her much at all Fearless Feb 2016 #54
He doesn't Hydra Feb 2016 #81
The president himself, or the president's aids? This doesn't sound like something Obama would let on Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #55
We All Know Who Is Disappointed And It's Not Obama scottie55 Feb 2016 #70
Can You Imagine All Those Corporations Having To Pay Taxes For Once scottie55 Feb 2016 #72
Why would PBO give a shit one way or the other? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #75
because, apparently, Hillary is the guardian of PBO's legacy. nt grasswire Feb 2016 #79
says who? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #90
I want video, damn it!! nt quantass Feb 2016 #78
Reply 40. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #89
Looks like a long line of hear-say and creative thinking to me. Todays_Illusion Feb 2016 #88
I've been amazed at what a bad campaign she's been running. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #92
The status quo is starting to feel the Bern? GOOD! Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #96
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
74. Simpsons reference.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:34 PM
Feb 2016

Homer joins a secret society called the Stonecutters, like the Masons. They sing a song about all the power they have





Lyrics:
Who Keeps The Metric System Down?
We Do, We Do...
Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We Do, We Do...
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg, a star!
We Do, We Do...
Who robs kegfish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We Do... We Doooo!

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
69. Aha!
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:29 PM
Feb 2016

I thought your post in another thread, to which I just responded, was an aberration of judgment. Now I come into this thread and find this post of yours, which tells me these rather bizarre opinions of yours aren't aberrations but reliable identifiers.

Sure: Hillary Clinton has made no mistakes in her campaign. LOL.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
80. Dead heat was not a win- her "sigh of relief" said it all
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:32 AM
Feb 2016

The number of mistakes today was pretty noteworthy as well- "A place in hell" for all the little traitor girls who won't vote for her? Goodness...

angel123

(79 posts)
21. Carl Bernstein says
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:20 PM
Feb 2016

Carl Bernstein does not like Hillary at all. I'm not at all surprised that he has negative opinion of her. He's always putting her down.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
61. In a primary, certainly. I would love to see our party return to roots and purge the Third Way
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:11 PM
Feb 2016

completely someday. Prefer sooner to later.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
9. It was Obama who picked DWS.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:56 PM
Feb 2016

Her incompetence has been known for years, he shouldn't have been surprised.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
14. Yes, she's a disaster for progressives.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:09 PM
Feb 2016

But her incompetence has also been a disaster for Hillary...she was supposed to organize a coronation, not start a civil war. We owe a debt of gratitude that "Heck of a job, Brownie" is fouling up the Queens plans.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
13. After the classless way both Clintons treated him in 08 you couldn't blame the president
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:08 PM
Feb 2016

But I think he is far too honorable and dignified to act that way.

Unfortunately.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
71. so it took away the possibility of her primaring him in 2012
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:30 PM
Feb 2016

and that is why. There were plenty of people qualified (John Kerry would have taken the job back then)

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
16. Bernstein sounded like he has an ax to grind. He wasn't exactly complimentary to Sanders either.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:10 PM
Feb 2016

I don't believe him anyway. The only time he shows up on TV now is to bash Hillary, all because he wrote a book about her in 2008.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
26. He wasn't really bashing her.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:33 PM
Feb 2016

Seemed to me he was just trying to report honestly on the White House's angst over the race. I actually figured he might be a Hillary supporter since he wrote that book about her and didn't really have anything nice to say about Bernie.

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
18. Guess it's Karma
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:11 PM
Feb 2016

He should have stuck with us instead of letting Emmanuel call us fxxxin' retards and get away with it.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
87. Thanks.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 04:02 PM
Feb 2016

The two scientists in the household occasionally use it. I just like seeing it artfully used for emphasis.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
20. I'm surprised his partner Woodward...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:13 PM
Feb 2016

...has not appeared to put down Hillary. I expected a Woodward book unveiling more Clinton scandals. Hope Woodward isn't in ill health...

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
24. more Clinton scandals?
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:29 PM
Feb 2016

Don't know if I can get through that. In the first go-round, I was defending them. Now I just want them to go away and leave us alone.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
27. i'm worried too. i'm a bernie supporter,
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:34 PM
Feb 2016

but will vote for hillary if she's the nominee. can't let the presidency go back to the republicans.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
77. i've been a bernie supporter since he announced, but
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:55 PM
Feb 2016

i will vote for hillary if she's the nominee. i've said that all along.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
33. I agree
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:54 PM
Feb 2016

However, I would guess he'd have other worries about Sanders as well.

I think Obama has been invested in HRC succeeding him for the past four years and is worried it's all falling apart.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
91. TPP would be my guess
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:52 AM
Feb 2016

It's about the only thing Obama has overtly campaigned really hard for, and he had to solicit lots of Republican support when the majority of his own party in Congress was opposed to it.

Hillary-- "TPP sets the gold standard for trade agreements."
-- "With what I know today, I would not be in favor of it."
-- "I will not actively lobby against the TPP."

Bernie-- "I will do whatever I can to defeat the TPP."

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
94. Good to "see" you, too!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:36 AM
Feb 2016

Say "Hi" to your husband for me.
And let me know the next time he comes to my neighborhood! (He was practically just down the street from me last time, and I didn't even know it).

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
37. Found a site with some quotes but no video
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:01 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2016/02/05/bernstein-likens-sanders-bobby-kennedy-clinton-might-be-terrible
What we are seeing is that Hillary Clinton could be a very capable President, but she is a terribly flawed candidate who has ethical baggage that is costing her terrifically, the GOP is exploiting it, and in Bernie Sanders we have a candidate who has begun a real movement the likes of which we haven't seen -- and I'd like to know what Bob (Beckel) thinks about this -- since Bobby Kennedy.

That there is a potential -- I never would have believed this a few weeks ago -- for him to go on and win the nomination, and he has hit on the issues that go to her weaknesses which have to do with character issues and trust.


On Flint:
Bernstein began by expressing his hope that Clinton and Sanders would not attack each other on the issue of Flint's problems:

"I would hope this rises above this political race, that both she and Sanders have said the right thing. Sanders has said that this governor should leave office. He ought to be recalled. This is a terrible thing that's happened and shouldn't be exploited in a presidential campaign. They're both on the same wavelength -- Sanders and Hillary -- on this."


On Speech Transcripts

He then pivoted to Clinton's paid speeches which he saw as a big problem:

"And let's talk about the real questions. And the real question that's been raised, as Chuck Todd did last night, is this question of the transcripts of Hillary Clinton's meetings and speeches before these groups. It's not going to go away. She's going to need to produce them, or she is in terrible, terrible trouble if she can't."


She can't produce them if they have a Romney-like 47% comment - for example, maybe sucking up to Wall Street in some way.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
41. Transcripts are probably being vetter and possibly edited at this moment.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:20 PM
Feb 2016

After all, if she has the only copies, she just needs to make sure what she releases has nothing particularly damning in them, and no one will be able to produce proof that anything was edited out.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
53. I was thinking the exact same thing.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:47 PM
Feb 2016

There's no evidence of the speeches, and no other copy of the transcripts. It would be easy to edit and then release them.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
48. At 6:45 "He has started a movement and that too has the White House upset"
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:37 PM
Feb 2016

Yep, they hate the idea of a left populist movement...

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
67. All Them Folks Not Happy With Crumbs!
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:24 PM
Feb 2016

Eat your damn cake.

Be glad the banksters didn't take every house!

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
45. She needs to corral her surrogates and
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:34 PM
Feb 2016

glue their mouths shut. That's step one.

This would include, Howard "Hum A Few Bars & I'll Fake It" Dean; Claire "Hammer & Sickle" McCaskill; Madeleine "Hot Blue Blazes of Hell" Albright; and not least, Gloria "This Is All About Genitals" Steinem.

They aren't doing her any favors.



saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
49. Yep. Seeing Jon in that visual reminds me
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:39 PM
Feb 2016

how much I miss his program. He can throw the hurt onto Trump as well or better than anybody.

kenn3d

(486 posts)
59. And speaking of Jon...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:08 PM
Feb 2016

The hashtag #SixWordBernieStory was trending on Twitter today and Jon had this tweet to offer:

Daily Show Jon ?@DailyShowJon 6h6 hours ago
He's had integrity since the beginning. #SixWordBernieStory
118 retweets 216 likes

If there comes a #SixWordHillaryStory hashtag...
Hillary not so much I say

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
65. I've heard rumors...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:15 PM
Feb 2016

He's talking to HBO about a possible weekly show similar to Maher & Oliver.

Also loved your post 45.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
66. Oilwellian, thank you for the
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:19 PM
Feb 2016

kind words.

I hope the rumor you've heard comes to pass. I could listen to Jon on just about any topic. I love that he can do hard-hitting parody and comedy, but when it's time to make a serious point, he's just as good at that.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
58. And her daughter and her husband and... well, herself, she should start with herself.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:07 PM
Feb 2016

But I don't think any or all of it would be enough.

Every time she opens her mouth people expect to hear a lie.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
62. There do seem to be some grievous
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:11 PM
Feb 2016

problems in her campaign.

It lacks a thematic rationale.

It lacks language. With the dough she has to spend she could hire a dozen speech writers.

It lacks emphasis on 'We' and over-emphasizes "I" whenever she fields reporters' questions.

It lacks coherence and coordination. Her surrogates are a complete mess.

And as you indicate, it kind of lacks a candidate, too. Her limitations are vulnerabilities and she just is not making a case for her candidacy right now.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
98. Consistent with her 2008 campaign: She seems to lack a certain self-awareness.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:03 AM
Feb 2016

If there is a drive to care about the American people, it comes across as: confront our enemies with rancor. Building a consensus by defining a common enemy only works in the short term. It is not a vision, it's a defense. She has to keep circling the wagons, defining all who disagree with her as her sworn enemy. Didn't work in 2008, and it doesn't appear to be working now.

Besides his integrity, Bernie doesn't have too many advantages over Hillary. It's been working because his opponent appears completely lacking it.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
100. Yes. There's a campaign organization issue
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:06 PM
Feb 2016

(it's not just the rogue surrogates). And at the same time, that lack of self-awareness is maybe the largest problem.

If Sanders is running solidly to enthusiastic crowds about the 1 percent, why would she invoke Kissinger? But of course she did.

Tone-deaf and out-of-focus.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
54. Perhaps Obama is telling people this, perhaps, but really I don't think he likes her much at all
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:47 PM
Feb 2016

Stemming from 2008 and such.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
81. He doesn't
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:45 AM
Feb 2016

But they are working out of the same office, so to speak...and he can't be happy that she's a potential anchor tied to him that could wind up sinking his precious "legacy."

Also, this is also a sign of panic from the establishment. I think I'm going to need more popcorn before this is done.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
55. The president himself, or the president's aids? This doesn't sound like something Obama would let on
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:49 PM
Feb 2016

He's too cool for school.

Now, some of his aids I could see taking issue.

Actually, scratch that...

I think it's probably VP Biden.

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
70. We All Know Who Is Disappointed And It's Not Obama
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:30 PM
Feb 2016

It's her mega-donors figuring returns, and not liking the numbers.

Sad day in oligarchland if you ask me....

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
72. Can You Imagine All Those Corporations Having To Pay Taxes For Once
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:32 PM
Feb 2016

And not being able to hide all their loot offshore.

And move their factories to slaveland.

And not being able to pollute at will.

And, the list goes on.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
92. I've been amazed at what a bad campaign she's been running.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:55 AM
Feb 2016

What's worse is, even when it's clear the old playbook isn't working, her team and supporters just double down on them.

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