2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumProgressive means making progress, not purity which accomplishes very little.
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Purity never accomplishes much. It can't. Being progressive means making forward progress. Simple as that.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Hillary. Talk about purity.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)no you can't will never ever move forward.
shawn703
(2,702 posts)Sanders would make more progress than Clinton
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)By that definition:
Ted Cruz is a progressive...towards theocracy.
Donald Trump is a progressive...towards corparatocracy.
Hillary's history does suggest which direction she would progress, and it's iffy at best if it's the right direction.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)I know you really want to believe that Hillary is a progressive but she's not. Sorry.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)simple .
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)and what's with the Purity Test. The Democratic Party is diverse, sorta like the United State of America.
AOR
(692 posts)by policies that cater to the whims of a ruling class that puts profit over the needs of the whole. If taking an unrelenting stance against that destruction is purist...then purists fighting against that should proudly wear that label.
All the when will you purists ever be happy really means is when will you fall in line with the idea that it is business as usual and stop upsetting our defense of that
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)snip
The contemporary common political conception of progressivism in the culture of the Western world emerged from the vast social changes brought about by industrialization in the Western world in the late 19th century, particularly out of the view that progress was being stifled by vast economic inequality between the rich and the poor; minimally regulated laissez-faire capitalism with out-of-control monopolistic corporations; and intense and often violent conflict between workers and capitalists, thus claiming that measures were needed to address these problems.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)things. Similar but not the same.
I believe that one can be progressive but NOT liberal.
QC
(26,371 posts)it means just what I choose it to meanneither more nor less.
The question is, said Alice, whether you can make words mean so many different things.
The question is, said Humpty Dumpty, which is to be masterthats all.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)for every time someone chirped that "Being a progressive means you want to make progress!!!" I would be hanging out with the guys from Goldman.
No. Words mean things.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Wig Master
(95 posts)Some people think progress is about equal opportunity. Other people think it's about collective self-improvement.
moondust
(19,993 posts)"Think small, then compromise it away to create a legacy of accomplishment!"