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Hillary's "I"ll look into it" may become a "let them eat cake" moment. (Original Post) Avalux Feb 2016 OP
I think it's her "47%" moment, a la Romney. Myrina Feb 2016 #1
Yes, that too. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #2
It could become a catch phrase for something you have no intention of doing. PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #3
That's a good one. Like saying 'maybe' and meaning no. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #4
Like "We must do lunch sometime." nichomachus Feb 2016 #8
It's like parents saying "We'll see" when you live in a city apartment and merrily Feb 2016 #36
The speeches don't interest me.... daleanime Feb 2016 #5
+1 southerncrone Feb 2016 #6
Possibly nothing. Goldman Sachs need only remember how hard Bubba lobbied merrily Feb 2016 #37
If she doesn't release them, it mostly means she chose to not be responsive HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #7
I don't know the transcripts = her speeches and that is propriatary information hollysmom Feb 2016 #33
Actually hundreds, maybe thousands of people heard those speeches. JimDandy Feb 2016 #38
I'm so glad this issue is being widely discussed here ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #9
Bernstein and the White House seem to be pretty worried that it might be enough to bring her down. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #13
Bernstein ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #14
I am sure you know better that Bernstein, what with all your connections and all. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #15
I'm as capable of saying ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #17
Try some humility sometime. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #18
What humility is required ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #22
I just thought you would like to try it. I think it would look very nice on you. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #23
If I thought "some people are sayin'" ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #31
Well, I wonder what Romney would advise Clinton in this situation? JimDandy Feb 2016 #40
How to Erect a Strawman ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #43
Another great campaign slogan. I'll Look Into It," followed by "Can't Do It." nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #10
I said, "Cut it out!" reformist2 Feb 2016 #19
Right, forgot that one. I guess it fits in the middle. LOL nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #20
"that will never, ever come to pass" uhnope Feb 2016 #25
And that fits at the end. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #28
Don't forget the ever-popular : " It's What They Offered"... AzDar Feb 2016 #29
single payer "will never, ever" happen... nt hopemountain Feb 2016 #30
Isn't that what she is doing in Flint, right now? Looking in to it? nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #11
She's in Flint giving a speech on how wonderful free trade agreements are. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #26
That's right, the one thing she agrees we 'Can Do'. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #27
She's been looking into it for exactly: Dragonfli Feb 2016 #12
LOL! In never cease to amaze me how creative people can be: JimDandy Feb 2016 #39
Next time somebody asks I hope she says "Don't worry about it" Wig Master Feb 2016 #16
I am hoping for "Na ga da" nt grasswire Feb 2016 #34
The Harriet Woods moment. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #21
Wouldn't be prudent, at this juncture. JBoy Feb 2016 #24
What if someone recorded one of her paid speeches Truprogressive85 Feb 2016 #32
That scenario of an unauthorized recording probably has Hillary sweating bullets right about now... JimDandy Feb 2016 #41
Is she going to hire a Goldman Sachs stooge to run the Treasury too? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #35
Shhh farleftlib Feb 2016 #44
It absolutely SHOULD be perceived that way. stillwaiting Feb 2016 #42

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. It could become a catch phrase for something you have no intention of doing.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:08 AM
Feb 2016

"Honey, you gonna take out the garbage?!"
"I'll look into it".

merrily

(45,251 posts)
36. It's like parents saying "We'll see" when you live in a city apartment and
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 05:09 AM
Feb 2016

ask for a pony for your fifth birthday. Except the transcripts are not impossible to provide and Hillary is not your abuela or your mamacita.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
5. The speeches don't interest me....
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:12 AM
Feb 2016

what I would like, and what we will 'never ever' get, are the discussions that happen behind closed doors before and after the speeches.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
37. Possibly nothing. Goldman Sachs need only remember how hard Bubba lobbied
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 05:12 AM
Feb 2016

for things like Gramm, Leach Bliley, the Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000 and Poppy's NAFTA.

Here, we're told we can't associate Bill's administration with Hillary--except when she wants us to-- but maybe no one told Goldman Sachs that.

Besides, the Clintons did a lot toward having us associate both of them with Bill's administration.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12778412

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. If she doesn't release them, it mostly means she chose to not be responsive
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:21 AM
Feb 2016

There can be lots of reasons that could motivate that result.

I can't think of any one of them that says 'on average, not responding boosts my support with voters'.

The damage of not releasing them may not be much greater than admitting she and Bill made millions giving them and that damage is done.

The damage of releasing them, and only she knows, could be greater than the harm of not releasing them.






hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
33. I don't know the transcripts = her speeches and that is propriatary information
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:03 AM
Feb 2016

i.e. she sells her speeches, if she gave them away for free, no one would pay her supposedly.
anyway, you slice and dice it , I don't see this happening.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
38. Actually hundreds, maybe thousands of people heard those speeches.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:27 AM
Feb 2016

If something in them is going to be ruinous to Clinton's presidential ambitions, it will come out. Her audience was probably mostly right wingers. One of those audience members, or wait staff, or assistants may have made an unauthorized recording. All this publicity about those speeches is going to motivate someone to dig their recording out of a closet and offer it to the highest Republican bidder. They then will sit on it and, if she becomes the nominee, release it to the media where it will be played over and over, just like what happened with Romney. That will end Clinton's political life, the Democrats chance at the White House and a potential opportunity to appoint a couple of liberal Supreme Court Justices. Hillary must be sweating bullets worrying about such a possibility, if there is anything at all damaging to her in them.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
9. I'm so glad this issue is being widely discussed here ...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:38 AM
Feb 2016

... because it is no doubt uppermost in the minds of average voters.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
14. Bernstein ...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:47 AM
Feb 2016

... says that the White House is worried.

He's been in some people are sayin' territory for a while now.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
17. I'm as capable of saying ...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:53 AM
Feb 2016

.... some people are saying' as he is. So are a lot of people. Actually, so is pretty much everyone.

Carl's problem is that he still wants people to believe he has the connections he once had.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
22. What humility is required ...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:30 AM
Feb 2016

... to say "some people are sayin'"?

As I said, pretty much anyone can say it. And it's just as meaningless when Bernstein says it as when anyone else says it.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
31. If I thought "some people are sayin'" ...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:56 AM
Feb 2016

... was reliable journalism, I wouldn't be here - I'd be too busy watching FOX-News.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
40. Well, I wonder what Romney would advise Clinton in this situation?
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:35 AM
Feb 2016

He's familiar with unauthorized recordings of speeches.

The average voter was pretty well informed about what Romney thought of them when they pulled the lever in the voting booth.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
43. How to Erect a Strawman ...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:49 PM
Feb 2016

1. Demand that HRC release transcripts of speeches that have absolutely nothing to do with her campaign for the nomination or the presidency.

2. Insist that HRC isn't releasing those transcripts because she has "something to hide".

3. Keep make references to Romney and his "47%er statement" in order to instill the idea that there is a similar statement contained in the unreleased transcripts.

4. Insist that this is a MAJOR issue that everyone is interested in - when the only folks who ARE interested are desperate Bernie supporters who are hoping against hope that something in those speeches will destroy HRC's commanding national lead over BS.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
26. She's in Flint giving a speech on how wonderful free trade agreements are.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:46 AM
Feb 2016

IDK if there is a transcript.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
12. She's been looking into it for exactly:
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:22 AM
Feb 2016
http://iwilllookintoit.com/

There must be an awful lot of places to look, it also takes a few days to re tape together paper that has been shredded (not that those transcripts are in a shredder basket somewhere or anything, but accidents sometimes happen)

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
32. What if someone recorded one of her paid speeches
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:59 AM
Feb 2016

And it turns out she sides with banks over the average person

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
41. That scenario of an unauthorized recording probably has Hillary sweating bullets right about now...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:42 AM
Feb 2016

The kind she can't dodge--unlike sniper fire.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
42. It absolutely SHOULD be perceived that way.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:13 AM
Feb 2016

Americans are FED UP with politicians catering to elite financial interests over average American interests.

For the love of God I have no idea how anyone could possibly discern otherwise.

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