It's usually Repubs telling me I'm going to hell for how I vote.

Change your tune. Start singing a different song. Alienating one of your core bases is not wise.

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Dang!


These attacks keep getting more Right Wing by the day.

The Moral Majority types would constantly bring up what is Christian and images of an American Hellscape!


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I remember when Reagan's folks would claim that Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale were the Anti-Christ!

I remember when George H. W. Bush would call Bill Clinton a Socialist, one who was into Government Planning!


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Now, we have Madeline Albright evoking the images of Hell, if women aren't elected.

Now, we have Claire McCaskill bringing up Socialism, the same way Bill Clinton was attacked by it.


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When the term Anti-Christ is evoked, a full circle switch to New Republicanism occurs in that campaign!


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Given the level of fealty her supporters have i think in their minds anti hill is anti christ

Beginning with my Mom, her mom and my other grandmother, along with sisters and friends, I have witnessed their problems in this world just because they are women.

Bernie speaks for women in so many ways without even trying. I would hope we all can come to see that and vote accordingly.

From the time I was five, my mother raised me and my two younger brothers by herself and I know it wasn't easy on her.

I agree with your take on Bernie as well.

Peace to you, RobertEarl.

Bernie WILL GET STOMPED in the general election if he is our candidate. Candidates who promise to raise taxes for any reason simply don't do well against Republicans. Candidates who promise to increase spending don't do well. Bernie promises to raise taxes by a LOT and he promises to spend like an aircraft carrier full of drunken sailors on shore leave.

Vote for Bernie, get a Republican president. That's how the world works.

Bernie is not promising a free-lunch. He is saying that in order to help more people we will need to tax those who have benefited the most from society and the stability the government has provided.

Some have profited greatly from good government and now they should share their profits with others here in the great old USA.

In 1952, a nice, moderate, civil-rights-supporting Democrat named Adlai Stevenson became the favorite of college students nationwide. (When Stevenson ran for office, our candidates were selected in smoke-filled rooms.) Unfortunately, he had the misfortune of running against the five-star general who defeated Hitler...oops.

In 1972, an idealistic young candidate named George McGovern, a Senator from South Dakota, was selected largely by America's college students for the honor of the Democratic nomination. He won Washington, DC, and Massachusetts. His own home state swung to his opponent...who, two years later, declared he wasn't a crook and resigned the presidency.

In 1984, a former vice president named Walter Mondale, a former Senator from Minnesota, was selected by the party to run against Ronald Reagan. At one of the debates, he told the truth: "I'll raise taxes and so will he." (Mondale, however, wanted to raise them to pay off Reagan's first-term spending spree.) Fortunately, this time around he at least was able to win his home state...unfortunately, the four most reliable Democratic strongholds ALL went to Reagan.

Add a couple other items to that: no candidate has ever suggested government control over the private sector to the degree Sanders has, and his tax schemes revolve around taxing the shit out of people who pay huge money to get out of paying taxes. But it doesn't matter anyway because come March 1, Bernie's out of the race anyway.

Remember the internet?

Being as there is no good republican liar running this time winning this campaign should be easy.

Bernie has said he will raise taxes for health care. The other side to that is that take home pay will be higher for the poorer people and everyone will have health care.

He will lower defense spending, and reduce corporate welfare. Bring home grown clean energy to the US thereby lowering future energy costs for everyone.

I get some are stuck in the past and scared shitless about real change. 'Twas ever thus. They all pretty much made claims like yours before Obama was elected.

Reality is, your candidate will be gone after Hillary runs the table on Super Tuesday.

candidate. You have no evidence to support that Hillary will. Even national polls are even, dropping 30-60 points. All you have is your assertions. We shall see.

By Super Tuesday.

Ms. Madeline practically destroyed Hillary's campaign today.

Thought I'd let you in on it.....

it would take a lot of fail and intervention from her people. Remember how long it took her to concede the election to Mr. Obama?

Based on history of different people and different times, your perspective is flawed. Never before has a candidate done what Bernie has done, and he has done it on the purest democracy we have ever witnessed. His base is a mile wide and a mile deep and is attracting people who never felt included before.

Then, with all the loot going to the top .01%.

We had a growing middle class, not one being decimated.

Times are different.

Healthcare is a big part of his campaign platform. Iowans who rate healthcare as their biggest issue broke for Hillary.

The economy is a big part of his platform. The people who rate the economy as their biggest issue broke for Hillary.

Family leave is a big part of his platform. Both married men and married women broke for Hillary.

The only people who DIDN'T break for Hillary are unmarried and under 30...the LEAST likely group to actually make it to the polls in November. The MOST likely group is seniors, and they broke for Hillary.

Liberal Millennials are not going to put this man in the White House alone, and the rest of the electorate doesn't like the SOB.

Let's do a little simile here.

We have these two cars:




We bring ten people who are all friends with one another, and who don't belong to a Camaro or a Mustang club, into a big room as a group and ask, "which car do you like best?"

Every group has a leader. If the leader of this group really likes the Mustang (or the Camaro - either way works) then the other nine people will eventually decide they like the same car the leader likes. They call it peer pressure. However, if you were to take each person into the room alone, it's highly unlikely that all ten would like the same car.

The Iowa caucus is a little like that. Everyone who liked Sanders went into one group, the O'Malley supporters into a second, the Clinton supporters into a third, then people from each group tried to convince the other groups to join them. Peer pressure in action, and it's an effect you won't see tomorrow because New Hampshire runs a conventional secret-ballot primary.

Predicting New Hampshire has always been a huge challenge.

This is 2016...and 1984 was 32 years ago.

Tell me if you would say that the US was different in 1946 vs 1978?

The rise of the tea party was the first crack in a major party, this is the second.

When he loses the primary, he will drop all pretense and go back to being an independent.

Read this...my paper got this in just last week...

http://cdapress.com/columns/my_turn/article_545165a7-89dc-5a92-b655-9875d000326a.html

People will come out in droves to vote against that man if we fuck up and choose him as our standardbearer...and then what will we lose?

Obergefell goes away first. The GOP will waste no time in writing a federal marriage amendment to eliminate same-sex marriage nationwide, and they've got enough states to ratify it. My guess is, if you went to 100 right-wingers and asked them "if you could overturn one Supreme Court decision, would you overturn Obergefell or Roe?" most of them would say Obergefell.

Roe v. Wade dies too. Along with every woman who suffers an ectopic pregnancy.

Net Neutrality dies. Along with the entire online Left.

Obamacare dies. And so do all the people who are dependent on it.

As do any social spending program, and the people depending on them.

Oh yeah...kiss the minimum wage goodbye too.

And let's not forget the 20,000 soldiers who will ALSO die in the three or four assorted wars the GOP wants to start, and will once all those pesky Democratic legislators are swept aside.

Hillary can beat any Republican they run against her. Bernie couldn't beat Carly Fiorina, and that's not who they're running.

43% of the population is independent. And she doesn't have crossover.

I truly believe Bernie is our only hope of having a progressive in the white house.

I will personally have a very difficult time blackening the bubble next to her name on mail in ballot. And I don't believe I am alone.

Bernie Sanders will put a Republican in the White House and that Republican will turn this country into...well, throw your copy of The Hunger Games into your DVD player and look at District 12 to see what America will look like three years after the GOP takes over again. And we will never recover.

But only Bernie thinks it is the number one issue.

She wants incremental change...guess what. We don't have time for it anymore. The tin can has reached the end of the road.

The VERY FIRST PART of his climate change plank: "Reclaim our democracy from the billion-dollar fossil fuel lobby."

We've known it for decades. And what did we do? Gave the industry subsidies = welfare.

It is only a class war in your mind. What it is in reality is that we need to quit giving welfare to the industry that created the problem.

Sanders is going for the "people who need someone to blame for their problems" voting bloc...and he's selling that the Millionaires and Billionaires are to blame, so to fix everything all we need do is erect our idea of a utopian society and send the rich the bill.

On the other side of the spectrum, Donald Trump is also going for the same voting bloc, but Trump has decided Immigrants are the problem. His idea? Shut down immigration and send the countries where the immigrants are coming from the bill.
His challengers believe basically the same thing, but everyone has a different scapegoat...some of them say it's atheists, others liberals, and some union members.

Hillary says, "yes, there's a problem. We've ALL got to help fix it." Which is a hell of a lot more realistic than anyone else.

Equating Trump with Bernie is really stretching it.

Bernie is not talking about a group of people, he is talking about some rich using their monetary power to influence and shape government to their personal benefit.

Big oil has used their power to get government to favor the companies. All the while the companies knew that fossil fuel burning was altering the chemical composition of the atmosphere and then using their power to keep the truths hidden so they could continue to profit from the alterations.

I feel as if I have stumbled into freeperville reading your words.

To course the earth to seek ever hungrier, ever poorer workers to take jobs that Americans used to do as union members who waged war on those same American workers and the reasonable living standard of working people in our country.

It is not Bernie who is stirring up discontent. It is the terrible policies that are squeezing Americans, making Americans work long hours for no or ver inadequate pay increases in spite of automation that should benefit us all.

Note that Bernie has been saying what he says for years. It only rings true to so many people now because the Reagan economics including free markets for corporations and the resulting low wages and deteriorating environment for Amerivan workers has become intolerable for so many.

The billionaires fid not have to choose to sqeeze Americans in this way, through their policy choices. It was not like this pre-Reagan, pre-frr-trade. Don"t blame Sanders. He is responding to the situation created by unbridled greed on the parts of some wealthy people who have lost their perspective and have lost touch with humanity.

It's called. Selfishness. The reaction of voters is what happens when a few powefuk people forget to treat others as thy would like to be treated. The Golden Rule was thrown out of the national conversation in 1980 when Reagan was elected.

Bernie is bringing it back in.

Sorry about spelling. I'm on an ipad, and i cant touch type.

And if we do, we will raise tax revenues. We also have to increase the tax rates on those who earn very high salaries.

We already pay for a lot of the stuff Bernie wants to pay for out of tax funds.

We pay for health care one way or the other. We will on average pay less if we turn to single payer and negotiate drug prices with the pharmaceuticals.

The middle class pays for college tuition for themselves or for their children. It's fairer to spread that burden across everyone. We need teachers. They don't earn as much as some other profession. Certainly earn less than a lot of the Wall Street brokers. But teachers are the insurers of our future. To encourage really talented, intelligent people to become teachers, we should relieve them and others like them, whether nurses or social workers or public interest lawyers, any profession that trades lower pay for public service, of student debt. But we should simply relieve every good student of that debt.

It is very difficult to start a business say in your 20s or 30s if you owe a lot of student debt. You work that 9-5 corporate job because you owe so much money. Spread the debt across the tax-paying lives of all of us. Much fairer. Much fairer if we pay for our health care and our college education in the form of taxes rather than in the form of repayment of debt. We won't have to charge interest on the debt if we pay it back in taxes across the course of our life.

As for people who don't go to college, it's you who profit the most from having nurses and doctors and others with less student debt and perhaps lower incomes because they aren't repaying debt.

Think of the debt a doctor owes, maybe a heart specialist by the time he or she starts earning a salary. A doctor goes to school many, many years. That is especially true of specialists. No wonder the pay has to be high.

Instead of just dumping the whole load of college costs onto the taxpayer, you'd be better off means-testing it (so the taxpayer isn't stuck with paying for a millionaire's kid to go to college - and before you go "ah c'mon, millionaires all send their kids to private school anyway," remember that millionaires didn't get to be millionaires by paying for things they don't have to), using the current funding schema of loans and grants, then using tax dollars to replace student loans.

If elected, she would just revert to the Clintons' Third Way dismantling of social programs and continue handing the government over to the banks. And, IMO, she can't wait to "get tough" in the Middle East. With other people's children.

Of many,many financial statemebts from the families of students.

Further, I don't know whether you have ever been the parent filling out the forms, butt ey are intrusive and demeaning if ou have to admit to the world and your child's school every detsil of your finances. It is no one's business but yours and the IRS's. And for people in their 50s who want or need to go back to school (a much larger number of people than now do go back for retraining) the forms are especially a deterrent to obtaining additional education.

I went back to school at the agr of fifty. For older students in today's rapidly changing economy, we need free college tuition, no quesstions asked about income at state schools.

This is especially important for women who may wish to go to college when their children also go to college.

Hillary is wrong on this issue. Think about how important it is to give all people who want to learn the opportunity to do so. Why should a person's abilitty to get an education at a state school depend on their ability or their parent.s ability to fill out aid forms?

I am also thinking of immigrants here.

The first problem is the simplest: Bernie Sanders must be dumb as a fucking rock if he thinks the "Wall Street Speculators" he's relying on to fund this plan aren't going to do everything they can think of and a few things they haven't yet to get out of paying transaction tax - including moving overseas and playing the US market through foreign banks' trading desks.

The second problem is it's going to cost a HELL of a lot more than $75 billion (Sanders' estimate) to accomplish this...if you could go to college just for the price of books, you would, whereas under the current regime you probably would not.

I've read his explanation for the free tuition plan, and it doesn't hold water. Says Bernie, Germany got rid of THEIR college tuition so we can do the same. College in Germany is far different from that in the US. In America, any person can apply to college - and if you work at it you can get accepted no matter how bad you are at schoolwork. Germans have to go to a specific kind of high school called the Gymnasium and they must graduate (which takes 13 to 14 years of work) with an Abitur certificate to be accepted to college. (AND college tuition there was only $1300 per year anyway, so picking up the rest of it won't kill the economy.)

As with his health care deform plan, I think he just threw this shit together one day just to try to win a few more millennials' votes.

Bernie has proposed a bill that would provide for free tuition at colleges run by state governments.

While Germans have to pass the habitur, we take the SAT.

Germans have a wonderful apprentice system and a Handelsschule system that we would do well to investigate if not copy.

College in Germany has only been for the best students, but not only has that changed somewhat if not a lot, but like us they have alternatives. We include a lot of education under the rubrik of college that some others think of as vocational school. That should all be tuition free.

Part of Bernie"s plan would be to much more strongly discourage capital flight and strongly encourage bringing jobs and investment back to America. A better trained and educated workforce is essential to that end.

Not all who want and need higher education are millenials. People in their 40s and 50s and even older who still need and want to work need to be able to go back to college tuition- free.

This is especially important for women whose educaion may have taken a back seat while they were raising children.

I remember the days of gravel roads back when Eisenhower sold Americans on the idea of a network of superhighways that would connect Americans. That was an impossible dream too.

Today, more than ever, for our nation, it is imperative that we educate ourselbes.

For example, so many Americans simply do not have the ubderstanding of science and the world to understand that climate change is caused by human choices. That is just one exanple of the role that ignorance and lack of education plays in the unreadiness of people to see the need for change.

Now, if say a woman oin her 50s decides she wants to study microbiology or become a pysicsl therapist because she no longer can get a job or do a job that she did as a young woman. (Secreetaries are in less demand now than they were even ten years sgo I think, for example. She will have to borrow the money for her tuition, but she will probably not earn enough as a therapist in the working years that remain in her life to repay the losns she would need to do it.

We cannot afford the system of funding higher education on student debt that we now have.

We must find a way to fund college for many more people without debt.

It is a question of how wr as a nation allocate our resources. My mother used to say we need to know our wants from our needs. We spend so much money on prisons and jails. Let's spend more on education instead starting with free public preschool.

They had that in Germany and France and Austria when I lived there. In fact my children benefitted from fre preschool and the experience was well worth ot.

Choices. As a nation we have to make them.
The high incarcerationn, imprisonment rate in our country is the result of choices we make. Choosing not to invest what is needed in the education of our children and ourselves forces us to invest even more in prisons and juvenile halls.

Investment in free state college tuitiom and free public preschools will pay us back many times just as the decision to invest in superhighways has.

Ask any Cambodian.

Bernie's ideas sound a lot better to me.

...and he's made abortion, atheism and unions all illegal?

For not voting for McCain's running mate.

We live longer, and many women in my generation did not have the career opportunities that men of our ages had. Our career choices were limited to secretarial, nursing, teaching and that was for most of us it.

So we always earned a little less than men our ages with equal skills and intelligence. Older women often have very, very little income. Bernie is the person we trust to maintain good benefits, and maybe improve the benefits from Social Security.

Just raising the minimum wage would help build up the Social Security trust fund. It's about time we raised the minimum wage and secured that trust fund for future generations.

I do not trust Hillary with regard to Social Security. She doesn't need. it. She is not as likely as Bernie to defend it strongly.

And then there is the question of just what the Clintons' relationship is with Pete Peterson the foe of Social Security. Big question.

It is time we had a President that brings ideas to the government that would help ameliorate the history of that oppression.

I would have thought Hillary would speak out like this for women, but I guess she is so out of touch that she can't?

This iis Hillary's strongest point, but for me,her strength about women's issues do not outweigh her weaknesses in so manyy other areas.

For example, her stance on tuition at state schools is weak.

She is not thinking about the many men ammd women who return or would like to return to college to obtain new skills and degrees when they are in their fifties or forties. They may have lost a job in today's rapidly changing economy or for women may be starting a child in college. They may hesitate to take on a student loan because they will not have the time to repay it before retiring. The usefulness of their new skillls or expertise to our society will be never realized.

I could say much more, but I think ypu probably get my drift.

Income onequality is harming our society in ways that we do not realize. Bernie has a plan to deal with that problem. We should do everything possible to help people become more useful in our society. Hillary does not focus on that. Bernie does.

I have, fo example, a friend who went back. To school in her 40s. She got a teaching degree and taught for some years. She had to retire because her husband had to move for his work, and she could not get a new teaching job in their new home. She is repaying her loan from her only income which is Social Security. She took a business risk when she took out her loan, but unlike a recogniyed busiiness, she cannot go into bankruptcy on her loan. That is not a good situation. Bernie's policy proposals would have helped her. There are many people like her.

That is just one example. Hillary is smart, but Bernie is smarter.

I think thatBernie has benefitted frion years and yaears of town hall meetings with constituents.

He knows how to speak to people's everyday problems. Hillary thinks like D.C. and her donors. She did not hang out with working people in recent years. Bernie did.

Speak about these issues loud and clear. Speak about how your ideas will help all women by bringing equality to the whole society. And that by helping mothers you help everyone to cope with the problems we all face.

Call it : Help for Mom is on the way.

Sure would be sweet.

If Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!

As if women needed to be told how to vote and what is important. Offensive.