the first black POTUS who promised change and all we got was even more huge corporate money in politics. The revolution is giving the political system back to the people. Identity politics doesn't mean much of anything if the same ultra powerful interests continue pulling all the strings of our elected officials. We need a lot less corporate money and a lot more integrity in our political system. There is going to be an outright revolt at some point.

with Republicans and republican leaning independants supporting Sanders right alongside the very liberal left.

Barack Obama has been one of the greatest Presidents in history.

Obama's earliest acts in the Oval Office included appointing people like Larry Summers and Tim Geithner to lead his economic agenda. Do you think the amount of populist anger on both the right and left has anything to do with how people are struggling in the economy out there right now?

But I do not blame President Obama. He has done a tremendous job of taking this country from the brink of economic disaster to relative stability now. It could have been much better had congress not fought him tooth and nail at every step and it could have been much much worse with someone else at the helm.

Scary times we live in. They took interest rates from 5% to 0% to help prop up things, but now rates are only 0.25%. If there is another bubble that busts (like the oil industry or student loans), what can the Federal Reserve do at 0.25%? Tricky situation and very scary.

We could fall back into a recession if something happens that scares the financial markets or employers or consumers. In fact, that is another reason why I think Bernie is a risk. His economic reform ideas sound a bit radical and could destabilize our economy.

We can start repair of infrastructure around the country. History has shown that when we have economic uncertainty, we are well advised to build our way to prosperity and economic stability.

If he had gone after the bankers who caused the economic meltdown, the whole dynamic of the political world would have shifted and the American people would have rallied behind him. It was his chance to become a great leader. Of course it would have been hard for him to go after his largest campaign financiers, which is Bernie's main point, that the influence of big money has totally corrupted our political system.

Even with the headwinds that he faced. President Obama has made more change than LBJ. Imagine what would have happened if the left of our party had stayed involved after helping to elect President Obama? Imagine where we would be if President Obama had been given a more progressive Congress every midterm election?

Then failed to back him through midterm elections. We need to realize that all of us need to show up to vote in all elections, general as well as midterm elections, that is the only way that we will move the nation consistently toward progressive policies.

Bernie is a big risk to the security of this country should he somehow win the WH. His positions on foreign policy are simplistic and uninformed. The world is too complex and dangerous for a foreign policy amateur like Bernie Sanders to be making critical decisions affecting the future of this planet. Its good other Senators are finally speaking up about this.

I'll take his judgement over Clinton's any day.

He seems very uncomfortable with discussing this issue. I think its because he knows very little about foreign policy issues and is not all that interested... not good for someone running to President of the United States and de facto leader of the world.

"go to hell" your words. I believe that is a violation... you might want to delete that.

Compared to what we were discussing. Speaks volumes to your priorities Bob.

I am done with you. not worth the effort.

Now run along and beat your war drum some where else. I've got that t-shirt and it's drenched in my son's blood.

The reason marco rubio is a senator in fla.is because "thickheaded democrats" like me didnt abandon the elected nominee of the democratic party and vote for repulican charlie crist.
No ban hammer was applied even though they advocated not voting for the democrat.
Some animals are more equal than others.

Bernie will not be the nominee.

No he's not ready to maim, kill and destroy for no reason. Apparently, Sec. Clinton and her supporters can't wait to create more veterans to cast under a bridge to self medicate and eventually kill themselves not mention the millions these veterans will kill. You have no friggin clue.

In this very thread you refer to Obama as one of the 'greatest Presidents in history' yet now you say the world is too complex for a 'foreign policy amateur'. Would you be kind enough to explain how Bernie is any more of an amateur than Obama was when he ran, or alternately how the world is any more complex than it was 8 years ago.

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In 08. Her entire campaign against him was based on her argument that Obama lacked the experience to handle foreign policy. Remember her "Three a.m. Phone call" ads?

Clinton was wrong in 2008. Obama has handled foreign policy extremely well.

Clinton is wrong now.

see this..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1163883

I didn't say that Bernie was Obama.

I said that Clinton's claims in 2008 were wrong. And they're wrong now.

I was comparing her tired, useless, baseless attacks that she tried to use against Obama in 2008. She's simply resurrecting the same talking points against Bernie, and applying them to Bernie.

She's wrong.

But to your irrelevant point--I do agree, "Bernie is No Obama." Bernie has more experience than Obama had. Bernie is a seasoned, experienced public service with three decades of outstanding service to our country.

Clinton's argument is dull.

Her judgment on foreign policy is dangerous. Selecting Robert Kagan, the founding father of the neocon movement, to be one of her closest foreign-policy advisors, during her time as Secretary of State, doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Candidate Obama was limited in foreign policy experience but clearly much better prepared than candidate Sanders is now.

Hillary made the "Obama doesn't have the experience to lead" argument in 2008. She was proven to be absolutely incorrect.

Now, she makes the same argument about Sanders.

Why in the world would she have any credibility when she made this point before, and it was proven wrong?

And BTW voting is not experience.

Please be specific. Thanks.

It is by no means a revolution to elect a female president of the

United States of America.

It would be a giant step forward, but by no means a revolution.

It would be a grand achievement for the woman and a great influence

on young girls and ladies in this country.

I want a woman president.

I don't want Hillary for president.

I don't hate Hillary.

I don't like her polices or poor judgment.

I don't like how casually and with ease she talks about war and invasions.

She is out of touch with rural America.

She has not admitted her ties to Wall Street, CEO's, and global corporations

will be a problem.

The Republicans hate her and her husband.

Bernie is the right choice.

FEEL THE BERN

wants him so they can tear him to shreds.

...that the DNC thought Hillary would be able to "tear him to shreds" in the Democratic primaries.

That hasn't worked out so well now, has it?

Obama bailed out Wall Street
and not one banker went to jail.

and the middle east. THe old style diplomacy worked a lot better than "damn the torpedos" when it comes to paranoid, isolated nations.

Sid

...with the blather about how electing a woman is "the revolution".

I don't think anyone is buying it.

Bernie will not be the nominee.