Sounds like he is hoping that....in a few years...we will finally begin the Al Franken Decade.

and you are right, Hillary is that same sort of politician, only progressive when it's easy or when it benefits a tight little circle of religiously defined worthies.

'We all do better when we all do better, but those gays should not be allowed to marry'? I just don't get it. How can straights use the words 'we all' when they also pass laws to say 'not you people'?

I'm a Harvey Milk progressive, a Bernie Sanders progressive.

I try not to tell what Paul was like because so many have a crush on him but fuck, I really thought of him as a backward and bigoted man, he seemed to sincerely oppose the rights of others on the basis that his sort was superior and he said so in many ways.

So yeah. Hillary is exactly that sort of progressive, Al. The kind who votes for DOMA like Wellstone did.

Thanks for pointing it out...

but that was his choice, he used Wellstone and said Hillary is like him. Wellstone voted against te rights of minority groups he felt were his inferiors. That is basically why I am for Bernie, I do not care for the DOMA branch of the Party which Al still celebrates.

in it..........

When Debbie Stabenow went to a few Democratic Party events after she voted in favor of the Bankruptcy Reform bill.. she got indignant and bent out of shape when she found out how pissed off many of her constituents were that she sided with the banks. Stabenow has gotten my vote as the lesser of evils...but when it comes to the big banks.. I know whose side she is on...

I seem to recall Klobuchar is a bit more "New Democrat" than progressive as well...and I'm sure I could go on....

I'm not too impressed with what they think at this point.

Denise Rich and her close associates have been bringing in millions for the Clintons ever since her scum husband was pardoned for his well-documented crimes, including massive contributions for this campaign.

Donna Shalala is a long-time Clintonista who took below rate loans as a "Friend of Angelo" (Mozilo, the disgraced CEO of Countrywide - a predatory mortgage lender that Clinton rails against on the campaign trail, even though she helped contribute to the deregulation that made such criminal activity a legal one). She was recently chosen to be president of the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

Lanny Davis is another Clintonista who, like James Carville, became a lobbyist for Latin American oligarchs. The difference is that Davis led efforts to secure $100M in funds to the military coup that toppled the democratically-elected President of Honduras, funds that the Obama administration wanted cut off but was ignored by the Clinton led State Department.

Don't know too many "Paul Wellstone progressives" that would count them as close associates.