2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Vote for Bankruptcy Reform that Haunts Hillary Clinton
MANCHESTER, N.H. As Hillary Clinton fights off intense criticism over her ties to Wall Street, a central question has gone unanswered: Has she ever taken any action that favored the financial industry?
Anybody who knows me who thinks that they can influence me, name anything theyve influenced me on, Mrs. Clinton said at a CNN forum on Wednesday. Just name one thing.
Senator Bernie Sanders, her opponent for the Democratic presidential nomination, took up the challenge.
Senator Elizabeth Warren can certainly name at least one thing, his campaign said in a fact-check emailed to reporters on Thursday.
To make its case, the Sanders campaign is leaning on years-old criticism from Ms. Warren, the Massachusetts Democrat and liberal icon, over Mrs. Clintons vote in 2001 to make it harder for Americans to wipe out their debts through bankruptcy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/us/politics/the-vote-for-bankruptcy-reform-that-haunts-hillary-clinton.html?_r=0
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(6,048 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Hillary Clinton: Balance lawful gun ownership & keeping guns from criminals
Q: Both you and Sen. Obama, in the past, have supported strong gun control measures. But now when I listen to you on the campaign, I hear you emphasizing that you believe in an individuals right to bear arms. Both of you were strong advocates for licensing of guns. Both of you were strong advocates for the registration of guns. Why dont you emphasize that now?
CLINTON: I respect the Second Amendment. I respect the rights of lawful gun owners to own guns, to use their guns, but I also believe that most lawful gun owners whom I have spoken with for many years across our country also want to be sure that we keep those guns out of the wrong hands. And as president, I will work to try to bridge this divide, which I think has been polarizing and, frankly, doesnt reflect the common sense of the American people. We will strike the right balance to protect the constitutional right but to give people the feeling & the reality that they will be protected from guns in the wrong hands.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008
Hillary Clinton: Let states & cities determine local gun laws
Q: Do you support the DC handgun ban?
A: I want to give local communities the authority over determining how to keep their citizens safe. This case youre referring to is before the Supreme Court.
Q: But what do you support?
A: I support sensible regulation that is consistent with the constitutional right to own and bear arms.
Q: Is the DC ban consistent with that right?
A: I think a total ban, with no exceptions under any circumstances, might be found by the court not to be. But DC or anybody else [should be able to come up with sensible regulations to protect their people.
Q: But do you still favor licensing and registration of handguns?
A: What I favor is what works in NY. We have one set of rules in NYC and a totally different set of rules in the rest of the state. What might work in NYC is certainly not going to work in Montana. So, for the federal government to be having any kind of blanket rules that theyre going to try to impose, I think doesnt make sense.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)were dismissed.
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(12,769 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)She said oh let me explain (what Warren said). Well there was the bankruptcy bill that came again when I was a Senator. There was a piece in that bill that disturbed women who had child support and this would affect them. So I wanted it out of the bill. The other Senators told me if I got that out I would have to vote for the bill so I did. Really? And of course she did not mention the $140,000 she received from a bank before she voted. Unreal.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)i just don't respect it.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)At the time, Mrs. Clinton said improvements had been made to the legislation, explaining that women could be assured that they would be able to collect child support.
Ms. Warren later cited Mrs. Clintons campaign fund-raising from the banking industry as a factor in her vote. Mrs. Clinton represented Wall Street as a senator, but as she made the case for the legislation, she talked about small credit unions around New York whose members suffered, she said, when the credit union had to cover bankruptcy losses.
Though the Senate passed the legislation in 2001, it did not become law. Congress eventually agreed on an overhaul in 2005; Mrs. Clinton was absent for that vote but expressed disapproval of the legislation. As a House member, Mr. Sanders voted no on that chambers version of the bill in 2001, and he also voted no on the 2005 bill.
Todd J. Zywicki, a law professor at George Mason University who was a supporter of the bankruptcy overhaul, said the opposition to the legislation was the beginning of the idea that anything the banks are for must be bad.
...this sounds a lot less dramatic than the premise and title of the article. The article is baiting twaddle, really.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)the vote.....
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)This actually came up in 2008 as the campaigns went at each other for their non-votes.
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...please proceed.
Surgeons successfully removed fluid and scar tissue from Bill Clinton's chest cavity Thursday, cleaning up minor complications from the former president's heart bypass operation of six months ago.
Clinton was "awake and resting comfortably" after four hours of surgery, said Herbert Pardes, president of New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Columbia University Medical Center. His wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, and daughter Chelsea were with him and are said to be pleased with the outcome.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-clintons-operation-a-success/
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...charming.
Did you miss the part where she would have voted against it anyway? I'm sure you would be prepared to dismiss her statement later if she had said she was for it.
Knowing the circumstances, your point is plainly refuted, if not in your own mind.
Warren on Hillary Clinton and the Bankruptcy Bill of 2005: I assume she would have voted against it"
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)surgery might of been able to be put off a day or so. I've been waiting for surgery to help my Hydrocephalus for over a year now and I bet there are many others who are waiting on having surgery because of lack of funds like myself. Many die waiting for treatment either because of funds or insurance companies blocking funds. But of course we are just being selfish. I'm tired of beating around the bush, chronic pain for over twenty years on top of a headache that has not stopped for over two years will do that to a person.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Heh, I was writing a post up about this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1164663
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)IWR!
THE BANKRUPTCY BILL!
REPEALING GLASS STEAGALL!
and in his Autobiography he said VOTING FOR DOMA WAS A MISTAKE.
So she needs to just stop it. She's invoking the name if a man who would most likely NEVER have supported her... and he's not here to tell her that!
PEACE
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(6,048 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Neither is Al Franken (as someone here claimed) for that matter.
amborin
(16,631 posts)Mrs. Clinton took a strong interest in the fate of the bankruptcy legislation, and President Bill Clinton vetoed it in late 2000. But its supporters pressed on, and in 2001, as a senator from New York, Mrs. Clinton was among 83 senators who voted in favor of overhauling the bankruptcy system, a group that included 36 Democrats.
In a 2003 book, The Two-Income Trap, Ms. Warren offered a stinging portrayal of how, by her account, Mrs. Clinton changed her views.
Had the bill been transformed to get rid of all those awful provisions that had so concerned First Lady Hillary Clinton? No, Ms. Warren wrote. The bill was essentially the same, but Hillary Rodham Clinton was not.
She wrote that as first lady, Mrs. Clinton had been willing to fight for her beliefs.
As New Yorks newest senator, however, it seems that Hillary Clinton could not afford such a principled position, Ms. Warren added.
Campaigns cost money, and that money wasnt coming from families in financial trouble.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)No way EW endorses HRH. EVER.
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BERNIE
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)People who could least afford it.
As long as the banks never have to suffer - it's all good.