2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow Hillary Could Get Her Mojo Back
Her surrogates and supporteers must stop projecting the idea that she is the inevitable candidate. As a Sanders supporter I laughed my ass off all through the autumn months as the Clinton supporters on this board kept posting irrelevant poll after irrelevant poll that proved nothing -- and most importantly, did not give any reason to support Hillary. Those posts were clearly intended to discourage Bernie supporters, rather than to persuade anybody of anything. Bad election strategy -- vote for me because I am going to win anyway.
Her campaign must stop its scattershot criticism of Sanders. It should stop talking about him at all.
Instead she should say why she wants to be President.
She should lay out the Hillary Vision for the Future -- and this vision has to be positive, not a vision of not being as bad as the competition.
Instead of arguing about the merits of $12 vs. $15 -- she should say how important it is to raise the minimum wage, and to imply that it needs to keep going up as the years go by. Instead of saying why 12 is better than 15, she should be saying that more is better.
Instead of the utterly insane pitch on health care that Single Payer or anything else like it is Impossible -- she should say that Obamacare was a great first step and that we need to continue to provide health care to more people. Again, a wonkish debate about how to finance improvements will not help her. She needs to make people believe that she is going to take the wisest course forward, and she needs to say she will fight the Republicans to make needed improvements.
Instead of defending herself on her Wall Street connection, she should go right at the banks and say that we cannot allow Too Big To Fail to crash the economy again. The bulk of voters aren't going to care about the names of statutes or the financial manipulation details. All they want is to feel like the President is not in the tank for those bankers.
Instead of the embarrassingly weak argument that I see her fans post on this board that She Is Ready From Day One, she should be saying that she is going to lead the country to a better future, and proclaim her willingness to fight for that future.
She would not have to shift any of her substantive positions to take this approach. And, with her money and institutional support, she could probably right her ship and wind up the nominee if she would just give Democrats a reason to be FOR her, rather just against Bernie and against the Boogey Man Republicans.
Can't you Hillary supporters see how weak her campaign is?
cali
(114,904 posts)She is at campaigning
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)she would be president. Sorry about that.
OhZone
(3,212 posts)Everyone already knows Bernie is likely to win a couple of states like NH.
cali
(114,904 posts)And the primary is being fought on Bernie's issues.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)DaveT
(687 posts)That is how you lost your lead, and unless you stop it, you won't even be tied much longer.
OhZone
(3,212 posts)She's 1 for 1 so far.
Everyone knows Bernie's most likely to win NH.
And PPP, one of the most accurate polls, has her up by 21 points nationally, and she's likely to win almost all the states after NH. Remember, Bernie is not Obama. There aren't millions of skeptical socialists just waiting to see if a socialist can win, like there were millions of skeptical people (of all stripes) wondering if a black man could actually win in 2008.
And the polls say most people expect her to win the presidency, one of the best indicators of what's happening.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/poll-most-people-expect-democratic-victory-november
More polls.
Keep it up. I'm loving it.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)Iowa was tie with bunch of iregurlys.serious PPP is not accurate in this primary at all.
keep telling yourself that.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)marble falls
(57,106 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Yeah, I think I'll go with that one.
DaveT
(687 posts)Just look at the polls that were such comfort only a few weeks ago. Obviously, something is not working.
Please keep your head in the sand.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Widen your scope of vision a little.
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Same rules for everyone pal.
DaveT
(687 posts)which makes me happy.
For anybody paying attention -- Bernie is the Challenger. Hillary is the Favorite.
Bad strategy to argue down. No choice but to argue up.
This is not exotic left wing thinking -- this is politics 101.
I don't expect my humble little post on DU to actually change Hillary's campaign strategy. And I damn sure am not trying to get her to do that. But she would be smart to consider running a positive campaign rather than the unfocused clusterfarce that has cost her the huge lead she started out with.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)DaveT
(687 posts)Grant you that one. For all it is worth.
That you are proud of it explains our disagreement.
Otherwise, the Clinton Campaign Juggernaut is just a-rolling on.
Keep thinking that.
You guys really need some new material.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)She could always pull an Obama, but I doubt anyone will buy it.
Let's face it, she's losing because she and her peers are doing fine in the current system, and screw everyone else. No economic justice, that was taken off the table from the first. Lip service for social justice(if that). No pulling the MIC and Wall St. back, that would be bad for brib...I mean, business!
I liked Hillary when she was a champion for women and children. As an advocate of the haves and have mores? They don't need an advocate.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)But it's too late to do the right thing now.
H campaign has alienated many women by shaming them and not promising she would help women.
I am afraid that H is just out of touch because she has been up in the tower of power, elite castle too long and all she can do is look down and smirk.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts).
Calling Millennial women stupid, by only voting to placate their boys.
Calling Millennials non-productive moochers that like Sanders for his "free stuff."
Telling women they will go to hell if they don't support female candidates.
What a way to win the Under-30 vote!
What a way to win the woman vote!
I'll leave out the Flint issue, since that impacts people's lives, but she was contributory to Ohio's lead problem and promoted worldwide fracking, something that is currently damaging watersheds in OK, NY, PA and TX.
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I never would have dreamed up the "briar patch" approach.....
DaveT
(687 posts)to believe this, but I was totally sincere in this thread, and I believe that if she would just stop running such a BAD campaign, it would be very difficult for Bernie to beat her.
I still cannot figure out why so many of them just have to say that She Will Win no matter what. This morning, they look like the Black Knight from Monte Python and the Holy Grail -- best example is gloating about losing by 22 points while Super Delegates undo the result. You're proud of that?
Of course Hillary will retool, recalibrate, refocus and revamp her up to now Inevitable Campaign. If she just goes positive, she will probably win.
I am confident that she will not, because that is just who she is -- she really believes her own passive aggressive bullshit about how she is obviously the best and there must be something wrong with you if you don't admit it.
Sanders and all of us who support him are lucky to be running against such a consummately bad politician. How many huge leads can she blow before her cheerleaders grasp that fact?
dinkytron
(568 posts)to get it back.
Austin Powers was funny, but fiction. You can't get it back.
Plus she never had any mojo to begin with.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I've been saying this a lot and it's true - the American people perceive Hillary as inauthentic (liar), not much she can do to change that because it's WHO SHE IS.
Once trust is lost, almost impossible to get it back.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Are the people paying for her to run.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)She can't re-invent herself.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)as I see it, She has lost the trust of the people with verifiable contradictory positions on every issue and she is one of the 1% class and I think the electorate is looking for a different path than maintaining the status quo.
Just my opinion.