Will you believe the results if Ms. Clinton wins? I won't.

...essentially Iowa is going to be the same tie he's claiming now, no matter how they review the vote.

Initially Andy "HRC2016 license plate" McGuire said the results were final and no review would happen.

Then, the Des Moines Register put some heat on her.

Now, she's correcting errors. But McGuire has closed the investigation and said that it's final.

The Iowa Democratic Party has also removed the PDF link that lists every final precinct count. That PDF is how Iowans were discovering that the results were reported wrong.

They've hidden it. So...I suppose they're hoping that the lack of link stops more reporting of cheating/mistakes.

...This is just crazy.

When their candidate polls at 75% untrustworthy, and they commit election fraud on her behalf, it only reinforces the public opinion. Not a good optic, and it probably benefits Sanders more than if he'd won an honest and transparent caucus.

But the optics of Clinton surrogates cheating only reinforces public opinion she can't be trusted. That's a better result for Sanders than winning.

...I think the entire effort questioning such a close result is not only fruitless but makes Sanders look weak and clinging. I liked his answer in the debate better where he pointed out the meaningless of the vote in the bigger picture.

The 'fraud' stuff just looks like more of the C.T. brigade in action, which, by the way, is becoming a trademark of the Sanders support here. It reads like 'Counterpunch'.

He was in NH by 5 am Tuesday giving a stump speech.
It's the DesMoines Register that has been questioning the results. They endorsed Clinton. But they appear to find it important that the caucuses are run honestly and transparently. Bernie has no input whatsoever into the DesMoines Register editorial positions.

Tell the Des Moines Register it's all a conspiracy.

You don't like the facts so your reaction is the bullshit that it's a CT.

...just remarking on the supporters here pining for an investigation that might just produce a result which Sanders is right now claiming is a tie.

...about a caucus that time forgot.

Sanders says it's a tie. You folks do him no good at all with this nonsense.

...I'm addressing, not the Register.

Navel-gazing.

Could have sworn I read blackbox.org or someone looking into some funny stuff going on with ballots in that contest but I couldn't find it to refresh my memory.

I may spend a few minutes on the matter, on google.

Thanks.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5568

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5537

one of the big problems with the 08 nh recount was, the sos would not provide any info ,like the voters checklist to see how many voters voted at a precinct

so if 400 people voted but the machine only counted 300 votes or 400 people voted but the machine counted 500 votes, there was no way to know until months afterward when that paperwork was fioa'ed

or the memory cards, they went straight back to lhs, run by a dude convicted of narco trafficking (what could go wrong there)

what we need is transparency in all our elections

I think I can leave it that way while Iowa irons out the wrinkles

The media and dem voters have turned their attention to other places.

Have you noticed Sanders has leads in a few states and is close in many?

When perception is the game, success breeds success.

Look promising by pointing out more coming successes... sell the dream.

No one dreams of mucking around caucus records trying to squeeze out a few votes that won't make much difference

Hillary won, there were some minor errors, which you expect from a chaotic process like that, but they didn't come close to changing the outcome.

I think it's time to move on to the next conspiracy theory.