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EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 04:47 PM Feb 2016

Do big donors expect influence with their candidate or not?

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/hillary-clinton-says-she-never-ever-let-donor-183509048.html

Hillary Clinton Says She Has 'Never, Ever' Let a Donor Influence Her Vote
JENNIFER HANSLER,ABC News 28 minutes ago

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton defended her voting record Sunday in an interview on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," saying she has never been influenced to vote one way or another by a donor.

“I have never, ever been influenced in a view or a vote by anyone who has given me any kind of funding,” she said.

The defense came in the wake of criticism over Clinton’s alleged ties to Wall Street from her rival for the nomination, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

“I'm happy to set this record straight and I really want to, once again, call out the Sanders campaign, which claims they like to run a positive campaign, but they have been quite artful in raising questions and trying to cast doubts about my record,” she said. “I really am not going to sit and take it anymore.”


And if they do donate, and don't get influence, why would they continue to give money to that candidate?

If they don't expect influence, what advantage or motivation is there for them to give in the first place?

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Do big donors expect influence with their candidate or not? (Original Post) EndElectoral Feb 2016 OP
money = access and access = influence. nt antigop Feb 2016 #1
Naw. They invest in politicinas and would never expect a return on their investments. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #2
Her evil plan is to weaken Goldman Sachs by taking their money and leaving them broke arcane1 Feb 2016 #5
Ha! That's out-of-the-box thinking!! elias49 Feb 2016 #9
Yep! They look at the ROI and invest accordingly for the best returns! Hence, sometimes the Koch's, RKP5637 Feb 2016 #11
I really don't see how they can not be influenced to some degree. Those that contribute, big or RKP5637 Feb 2016 #3
What a load of steaming shit! Of course corp. donors are paying for influence... polichick Feb 2016 #4
Based on what Hillary said in the debate... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #6
What motivation do people have to give money to Bernie? DanTex Feb 2016 #7
I gave his campaign $50. I don't expect any favors. elias49 Feb 2016 #12
Yep, it's the same! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #13
Yes! farleftlib Feb 2016 #14
So you're expecting personal favors? You're expecting him to compromise his values to DanTex Feb 2016 #15
You play dumb very well farleftlib Feb 2016 #17
Another weak analogy. malokvale77 Feb 2016 #18
And yet nobody can rebut. Wonder why? DanTex Feb 2016 #20
Once again - it's a weak analogy. malokvale77 Feb 2016 #22
The elected person has to follow the law treestar Feb 2016 #8
"The elected person has to follow the law" malokvale77 Feb 2016 #19
like fish in a barrel (n/t) farleftlib Feb 2016 #21
Hah. nt malokvale77 Feb 2016 #23
She's making the same argument as Scalia and Thomas in Citizens United. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #10
They just like giving away millions of dollars for no reason. cyberswede Feb 2016 #16

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
11. Yep! They look at the ROI and invest accordingly for the best returns! Hence, sometimes the Koch's,
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

for example, invest in democratic candidates and well as republicans. It's all about $$$$$'s in a drastically skewed to the wealthy capitalistic country.

I've often said why even have elections anymore in the US. Put the candidates on the auction block and the highest bidder wins them. Thanks to Citizens United, we might as well let eBay do the presidential election.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
3. I really don't see how they can not be influenced to some degree. Those that contribute, big or
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

small donors, generally expect something in return.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
4. What a load of steaming shit! Of course corp. donors are paying for influence...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 04:53 PM
Feb 2016

You have to be an idiot to think they're just being patriotic, knowing they do everything they can to avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
6. Based on what Hillary said in the debate...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

Only the Republicans are corrupted by big corporate money. Democrats would never in a million years be corrupt on this issue.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
14. Yes!
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 05:00 PM
Feb 2016

We're supposed to have influence. We hold elections for candidates to represent our interests and promote the general welfare.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
15. So you're expecting personal favors? You're expecting him to compromise his values to
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 05:01 PM
Feb 2016

align more closely with yours? Wow.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
22. Once again - it's a weak analogy.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 05:17 PM
Feb 2016

I certainly hope Bernie will be influenced by the millions of us giving small donations. Laws of for and by the people.

Do you get it now?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. The elected person has to follow the law
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 04:56 PM
Feb 2016

and the big donors must know that.

They might get their ideas heard. I don't know why that's harmful. If they really went against the good of the people overall, the President would not want to go along with it either. How would a POTUS get re-elected if they really allowed the banksters to take over or whatever it is they are accused of.

Also a lot of times there are no big donors, just the employees of a big company adding up.

Democrats like Obama and Hillary have also listened to ordinary people. How many campaign stops have we seen? Even after Obama was President he did that.

Overall GDP has boiled away all of the subtleties of life to make it this simple quid pro quo thing that every politician must certainly be corrupt. This is only telling me what the accusers think they would do if they had the money.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
10. She's making the same argument as Scalia and Thomas in Citizens United.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

Is she going to include them alongside Kissinger as her 'progressive' influences?

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