2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI know Sen Sanders went to NY to be on SNL and Im going to Flint to see if we can help with the kids
Hillary Clinton told a New York Time reporter that Bernie Sanders went to NYC to do SNL over the weekend, while she was in Flint to help with the water crisis poisoning.
Amy Chozick ?@amychozick 10m10 minutes ago
"I know Sen. Sanders went to New York to be on SNL' and I'm going to Flint to see if we can help with the kids," @HillaryClinton said.
https://twitter.com/amychozick/status/696458950754045953
Edit- Earlier I said this would become a bigger issue. The optics makes Sanders detour to NYC just look bad in comparison to Hillary Clinton's visit to Flint. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511157231
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)be that nice.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)and what her TPP and Corporate buddies will do to the rest of us.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #7)
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JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)I did say that their attendance and their preference for Clinton doesn't change what NAFTA did and TPP may do to their town. That's true whether NAFTA was a net positive or net negative for their town.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Some Flint citizens have even said they would prefer she not politicize the incident.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)Well, here's an earlier take on it
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)with the number of (approximately 10k) children that have been poisoned by Governor Snyder- you'd think attendance would be much higher.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... or if they have finished shooting for this season? Might be an interesting play on SNL appearances...
From when he played Bernie on SNL earlier...
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Shouldn't she have been volunteering at a homeless shelter?
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)ornotna
(10,803 posts)The universe was in perfect harmony when that happened so it was ok for her.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)she is running behind.
Transparent exploitation and pandering
cali
(114,904 posts)Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)dragonfly301
(399 posts)the NAFTA poster city - hope Bill goes with her!
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)I'm sure with all that money she gets from speaking fees, she could donate some money to help their cause. Yeah right! What did she do for Flint while she was there? Drama Queen HilLIARy.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)That was a totally shitty comment for Clinton to make, because she knows that.
elias49
(4,259 posts)She has lots of money.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)DU is funny these days.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)At least that's what some of Flint's residents are thinking:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/07/flint-water-crisis-hillary-clinton-michigan-visit
NowSam
(1,252 posts)There is a tragedy occurring every day for citizens everywhere that can be exploited for political gain. Flint's situation is horrific and an example of what happens when elected officials are bought and paid for by private interests. Tomorrow it will be another city. Maybe it will be poisoning from fracking. Maybe it will be an injustice perpetrated by a for profit private prison system. Who knows? Just know there will be some politician mliking it for political gain woke not actually solving any problems.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Giving speeches or useless advice, instead
of ordering 10,000 bottles of water for them?
I know that if Bernie had been asked to come,
he would not have made it a media event to
be used for political purposes.
Agony
(2,605 posts)She should get her own house in order, how much of her speaking fees was on the back of the people of Detroit.
While people were getting their water shut off, money was flowing into Hillary's sphere of influence.
http://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/water-woes-and-the-swaps-swamp/Content?oid=2214702
i am sure she could tell them to "cut it out" if she cared but
the Corruption in Clintonville is vast and disgusting so I am not holding my breath.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)will somehow spin this as showing how real Bernie is and how fake Hillary is.
I actually don't care that he went to be on SNL. But I do know that if Bernie had gone to Flint this weekend and Hillary had gone to be on SNL, Bernie's fans would have used it to show how little she cares and how much he cares.
It does not matter what either one does. It's the spin.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)It was cheap and undermines her motives for being there.
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Remember that Bernie's appearance on SNL was probably planned in advance.
And although they could have filled the space with something else, I believe he takes his commitments seriously.
Now, what I do care about is the kind of threatening and insulting comments some of Hillary's surrogates have been spewing.
Following the boys, rings of hell-fire.
Yea, now that is presidential material.
And I am not a "Bernie fan"
I am a Bernie Sanders supporter.
Agony
(2,605 posts)local economies. He also understands that we need Federal investment in Infrastructure and Flint is not the only water system in trouble.
While Hillary beholdens herself to the Banksters
and obfuscates the real issues
although now I am doubting that she even has a clue what the real issues are for ordinary americans.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)He is better than that.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:02 PM - Edit history (1)
On edit: I don't now believe that distasteful tweet came from Clinton herself, but a supporter.
I think it's great that she's there drawing attention to the crisis. I just don't think she should be using it for political points because that would be really cruddy. Her supporters probably shouldn't be doing that either.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:00 PM - Edit history (1)
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)How many were killed in the Iraq War she voted for?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Like pick up a shovel to help lay a new water main? Donate $100 million to replace house pipes and faucets? If so, I'd be impressed. But this is Hillary, the bar must be set low...she's probably going to use some black people as props for a photo-op. Anything more would be "doing something".
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)She needed to have kept her mouth shut. On the other hand, I reserve judgment as to whether she really said it. It would be a stupid thing to say.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)I think that it was a supporter. The post makes it look like it was hers.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)for the one where Bernie was in Iowa criticizing Hillary for being where she was.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)If we win I hope he will put her in charge of the Flint rescue. I think the women loves her some little kids.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)She clearly has no shame.
If she were doing it solely for the people of Flint she wouldn't have made that comment. Remember when Bernie met the family of Sandra Bland's family? He didn't go tweeting about it to exploit it for political gain. Because he doesn't use people and tragedies in an attempt to get himself closer to the White House.
Plus, did she forget she went on SNL while this was happening in Flint? While a lot of other terrible things were (and still are) happening? She is guaranteeing her own loss by being such dirty player of politics and a terrible one at that. No wonder the establishment is afraid she is blowing this campaign.
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