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ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:13 PM Feb 2016

Bill Clinton batters and blasts Bernie Sanders

Bill Clinton’s milquetoast stump speech touting his wife’s biography and her power as a “changemaker” has transformed into a brutal litany of attacks on Bernie Sanders and the devious campaign the Clintons apparently believe he is running.

Campaigning in Iowa ahead of the caucus last week, the former President seemed sent to merely soften his wife's image -- he shared gauzy memories dating back to law school about how everything she ever touched, she made better. But two days before the New Hampshire primary, where Sanders is leading by double digits in the polls, the Big Dog turned into an attack dog.

“When you’re making a revolution, you can’t be too careful with the facts,” he told the crowd of just under 300 who came to hear him speak Sunday afternoon while Hillary Clinton paid a visit to Flint, Michigan, to visit a church. “I want you to laugh, because when you’re mad you can’t think.”

Without mentioning Sanders by name, Clinton recited a laundry list of double standards and lack of details in policy proposals he has identified in Sanders’ campaign — and labeled “her opponent the champion of all things small and the enemy of all things big.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bill-clinton-bernie-sanders-hillary-218916#ixzz3zWiZuJBr

As a woman, Hillary Clinton can't delve too much into contrast with Bernie Sanders. The media would crucify her. Fortunately, she has Bill Clinton who can do the heavy lifting for her. He's almost acting like her vice-president.
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Bill Clinton batters and blasts Bernie Sanders (Original Post) ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 OP
I don't see anything to be proud of in that article. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #1
Bill Clinton will go down as one of the best Presidents in our history. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #2
NAFTA, Welfare Reform and Intern problems. I don't think so. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #3
It's the economy, stupid- James Carville nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #5
Yup, just what Bernie Sanders is saying Arazi Feb 2016 #8
+10,000 nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #11
James Carville is supporting Hillary Clinton. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #13
Lol, you say that like its a good thing Arazi Feb 2016 #16
No kidding. Some people just really don't get it. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #19
LOL, Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich. R B Garr Feb 2016 #74
Eeeeeeew. That's not a positive to me. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #34
David Axelrod will be one I'll watch for, if he endorses anyone eom Arazi Feb 2016 #45
He likes Hillary Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #65
"Liking" and "endorsing" are two very separate things Arazi Feb 2016 #68
I'm a Proud Parent of a Transgender Child. Wanna try that again? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #23
Does your child support Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton? nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #38
Posted about it. My Child works at Disneyland and everyone he knows there supports Bernie Sanders. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #39
I am glad that he is politically engaged. You raised your child well. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #41
He's pretty confident that he's chosen wisely. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #42
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #56
Jury Results ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #75
It IS the economy DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #76
Not to mention the Telecom Act hifiguy Feb 2016 #6
Plus, he's the guy who transformed the party into a corporate tool. polichick Feb 2016 #12
Bill, Hill and their DLC - now Turd Way - pals sold the party to the plutocrats hifiguy Feb 2016 #18
+1000. Absofuckinlutely. kath Feb 2016 #78
Really? Wow! elias49 Feb 2016 #4
It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'deserves' is. Jackilope Feb 2016 #37
Even Bill Clinton thinks his presidency was mediocre. reformist2 Feb 2016 #46
Wrong. Blind loyalty to any country or candidate is simply blindness. trillion Feb 2016 #82
No he won't - unless you're a corporatist Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #83
Bill Clinton lecturing Sanders on playing with facts? Boy he really shouldn't remind us of what Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #7
I suppose he is ready for his 3rd term then. sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #9
sadly Obama was his 3rd DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #77
People seemed to forget the 2012 convention speech ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #10
Nope, we got tired of defending him way back. And the damage his policies created are undeniable. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #14
Please stop engaging in revisionist history. Next you are going to say Barack Obama was a bad prez n ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #15
Nope, I am on record as saying Obama will go down in history as one of the best Presidents. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #17
Someone said that Obama kept the country from going over a cliff. hifiguy Feb 2016 #22
Agreed. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #24
Obama is a GREAT president! LOVE him! Arazi Feb 2016 #26
+10,000 nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #30
+10,001 ! thereismore Feb 2016 #53
That speech was great -- But it was the Dr Jeckell side of Clintion Armstead Feb 2016 #20
Don't put words in my mouth or tell me how I feel about Bill Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #63
Good lawd, really: demmiblue Feb 2016 #21
+1 eom Arazi Feb 2016 #25
Just another Clinton lie. And considering the magnitude of Clinton cali Feb 2016 #31
The Guy Used To Be Respected Before We Found Out About All He Did T F Things Up for US CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #80
Lol. Zip it, Bill. cali Feb 2016 #27
Ha! +10 840high Feb 2016 #50
bill was the start of the down fall of our party......bill should sit down and STFU bowens43 Feb 2016 #28
The down fall? He had two terms after 12 years of being shut out of the White House! Metric System Feb 2016 #35
I agree! m-lekktor Feb 2016 #47
The down fall of our party? oberliner Feb 2016 #48
Yeah, but at what price? RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #55
Longest economic expansion in American history oberliner Feb 2016 #58
How could I forget the repeal of Glass-Steagall? RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #61
Bill was the first Democrat in 25 years to nominate a R B Garr Feb 2016 #70
WTH? He's a goddam senator and has worked like crazy on this Presidential campaign Arazi Feb 2016 #73
Where was he 25 years ago when Bill was breaking R B Garr Feb 2016 #79
Yummy! A whole plate full of "Where would Hillary be if not for Bill?" It's what's for dinner... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #29
Poor wittle hilly. She needs her husband to fight her battles. cali Feb 2016 #32
Hillary should not be the first woman President. She has been riding her thereismore Feb 2016 #62
I think she was the brains behind the operation the whole time. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #64
I must confess: back in 1992, I was at a party and they asked me if I like Bill Clinton. thereismore Feb 2016 #67
Bill's obnoxious comments helped scuttle his wife and helped Obama to win the primatry in 2008 Armstead Feb 2016 #33
What?! earthside Feb 2016 #36
Here we go again. Bill out on the campaign trail pissing off more people jillan Feb 2016 #40
So JEB! rolls out his mom and HRC rolls out Bill mikehiggins Feb 2016 #43
lol Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #44
Bill & Hillary have enough Money along with Chelsea and her Hubby to Retire KoKo Feb 2016 #49
The headline could be: Angry Bubba draws crowd of just 300. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #51
Pretty pathetic Dems to Win Feb 2016 #59
Unnecessary and unproductive BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #52
"the champion of all things small and the enemy of all things big.” Baloney. madfloridian Feb 2016 #54
Huh? Hillary 'can't delve too much into contrast with Bernie Sanders?' Dems to Win Feb 2016 #57
And Bill is insinuating that when we are mad we can't think. In other words, thereismore Feb 2016 #60
Bill Clinton battered Obama too Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #66
Bubba should just go batter and baste some catfish and hush puppies. frylock Feb 2016 #69
He was nasty to Barack Obama in 2008 as I recall. milestogo Feb 2016 #71
As expected from a con-man selling a bad investment. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #72
Changemaker haha Truprogressive85 Feb 2016 #81

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
13. James Carville is supporting Hillary Clinton.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:26 PM
Feb 2016

I know that the Sanders's campaign like to claim endorsements they haven't received, but come on. We all know Carville is a Clinton supporter.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
16. Lol, you say that like its a good thing
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie Sanders is the only Dem who gets that it really is about the economy. I'm really happy his message is getting such attention - all the way to the White House!

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
74. LOL, Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

Its hardly Bernie's idea. Bill did that 25 years ago. Where was Bernie?

Hillary talked about the "billionaire class" at the 2008 Democratic National Convention. It's hardly Bernie's idea. Where was Bernie?

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
34. Eeeeeeew. That's not a positive to me.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

Anyone who can be married to someone so diametrically opposed has indicated they think politics is a game, if you ask me.

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
41. I am glad that he is politically engaged. You raised your child well.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton has a message for your child " “I know you may not be for me now, but I am for you, I will work hard for you, I will be a president who puts your future at the top of our national priorities.”

So, even if your child doesn't support Hillary Clinton, she will fight and stand up for him .

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ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
75. Jury Results
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016

he'd kill mine, though.
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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
76. It IS the economy
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:54 PM
Feb 2016

and Hillary's friends like Lloyd Blankfeld wrecked it, and they want to KEEP DOING IT on OUR TAB!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. Not to mention the Telecom Act
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:22 PM
Feb 2016

and "banking reform." His policies were a disaster for the middle class in the long run.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. Bill, Hill and their DLC - now Turd Way - pals sold the party to the plutocrats
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

for the sole purpose of feathering their own nests. And that should never be forgotten.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
37. It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'deserves' is.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

Just a nod to his infamous and lame quotes re: his lying about Lewinsky "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

Third Way, NAFTA, repeal of Glass Steagall.... his judgement and damage to the party means less respect.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
83. No he won't - unless you're a corporatist
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:12 AM
Feb 2016

Ask the people of FLINT how NAFTA has been working for them to this point



Nanjeanne

(4,961 posts)
7. Bill Clinton lecturing Sanders on playing with facts? Boy he really shouldn't remind us of what
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:23 PM
Feb 2016

a liar he is.

Bad move.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
77. sadly Obama was his 3rd
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:57 PM
Feb 2016

and 4th term, Hillary will be his fifth and sixth. I bet Vlad is smiling knowing that America will put in a Clinton, as he will remind the Russians who tried to devour their country after Glasnost.

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
10. People seemed to forget the 2012 convention speech
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

He was loved by all the Bernie Sanders supporters, but once the campaign starts they start to disrespect the former President.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
14. Nope, we got tired of defending him way back. And the damage his policies created are undeniable.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton got more Republican policies through than any Republican ever did.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
17. Nope, I am on record as saying Obama will go down in history as one of the best Presidents.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:30 PM
Feb 2016

Sorry to disappoint you.

Of course, Bernie will go down in history as the best President. Feel the Bern!!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
22. Someone said that Obama kept the country from going over a cliff.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

And while I have many policy disagreements with him, I think that's a fair assessment and no small accomplishment. Now that we're back from the edge of the abyss it's time to turn in a new direction to improve the lives of average Americans.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
20. That speech was great -- But it was the Dr Jeckell side of Clintion
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

He kept the Mr. Hyde side -- the Corporate Crony and Mean Spirited Scorched Earth Politician -- under wraps that night

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
21. Good lawd, really:
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016
As a woman, Hillary Clinton can't delve too much into contrast with Bernie Sanders. The media would crucify her. Fortunately, she has Bill Clinton who can do the heavy lifting for her. He's almost acting like her vice-president.


I am not a Hillary Clinton fan, but you seem to be making her out to be a helpless little woman who is dependent on her man to win the nomination. Heavy lifting? I hope some Hillary feminists will come down on your arse.
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
31. Just another Clinton lie. And considering the magnitude of Clinton
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

whoppers, this is just a minor one on their expansive pantheon of lies

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
80. The Guy Used To Be Respected Before We Found Out About All He Did T F Things Up for US
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:05 AM
Feb 2016

while greasing the rails for himself and his Wall Street cronies... Hers Too!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
48. The down fall of our party?
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:58 PM
Feb 2016

He was the first Democrat to get elected President after 12 years of Republican rule.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
55. Yeah, but at what price?
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:28 PM
Feb 2016

Welfare Reform, the Telecom Act, NAFTA, and DOMA. A Republican President would've been happy to sign any one of them into law.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
58. Longest economic expansion in American history
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:41 PM
Feb 2016

More than 22 million new jobs, Highest homeownership in American history, Lowest unemployment in 30 years, Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation, Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans, Lowest poverty rate in 20 years, Paid off $360 billion of the national debt, Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
61. How could I forget the repeal of Glass-Steagall?
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:51 PM
Feb 2016

You're right. It was a great party.

And one hell of a hangover.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
70. Bill was the first Democrat in 25 years to nominate a
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:16 PM
Feb 2016

Supreme Court Justice.

Thank God he worked his butt off to get elected, something Bernie never bothered with until it was convenient for him. Can't imagine the picks another Repub might have forced on us.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
73. WTH? He's a goddam senator and has worked like crazy on this Presidential campaign
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:20 PM
Feb 2016

you don't think he's worked like hell to get where he is???

Fuck that shit

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
79. Where was he 25 years ago when Bill was breaking
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:59 PM
Feb 2016

down long-standing obstacles about LIBERALS that saw the GOP dominate the political scene.

He could have run for President, too. Makes you wonder what was stopping him

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
29. Yummy! A whole plate full of "Where would Hillary be if not for Bill?" It's what's for dinner...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:40 PM
Feb 2016

God Damn that tastes good.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
62. Hillary should not be the first woman President. She has been riding her
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:53 PM
Feb 2016

husband's coattails since the Arkansas days. She would not be where she is were it not for her husband.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
64. I think she was the brains behind the operation the whole time.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:59 PM
Feb 2016

When she talks about Bill Clinton's administration it's always "WE".

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
67. I must confess: back in 1992, I was at a party and they asked me if I like Bill Clinton.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:05 PM
Feb 2016

I said yes, but it should be Hillary running, not Bill. Either she has changed or I changed or both. Either way, I can't support her now.
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
33. Bill's obnoxious comments helped scuttle his wife and helped Obama to win the primatry in 2008
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

Let's hope history repeats itself, (substituting Bernie for Obama, obviously)

earthside

(6,960 posts)
36. What?!
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016
As a woman, Hillary Clinton can't delve too much into contrast with Bernie Sanders. The media would crucify her. Fortunately, she has Bill Clinton who can do the heavy lifting for her. He's almost acting like her vice-president.


She should drop out of the race if she has to rely on her husband to "do the heavy lifting."

Astounding ... and being a 'strong' woman is the primary rationale for her candidacy?

(I have to laugh at the photo of Bill Clinton at the link ... he looks like an extra for the old Star Trek.)

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
43. So JEB! rolls out his mom and HRC rolls out Bill
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:40 PM
Feb 2016

There probably still are some people who will listen to him but not a lot of them are women under thirty.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
44. lol
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:45 PM
Feb 2016

Says Mr NAFTA

Mr 1996 Telecommunications Act

Mr Good bye Glass-Steagall

Americans have reason to be fearful of your political policies.

I can see his dilemma...it's a hefty list.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
49. Bill & Hillary have enough Money along with Chelsea and her Hubby to Retire
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:12 PM
Feb 2016

in Splendor. That they send out a very ageing Bill to defend his Wife and use their Pregnant Daughter to further their Ambitions is beyond comprehension!

It's time for both to retire and Grandparent "Baby Charlotte, the New Grandchild on the way and allow their Daughter to lead her Own Life!

Enough is Enough with the Clinton Family and their Past History that has to be dragged up Over and Over cutting out NEW and REAL PROGRESSIVE DEMS from Moving Our Party Forward!

Let the CLINTON's GO!

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
59. Pretty pathetic
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

I thought Bill's actions were sometimes beneath the dignity of a former prez in 2008. Sad to see it again.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
52. Unnecessary and unproductive
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:23 PM
Feb 2016

Between this and the gender pledge stuff, it's like the plan this weekend was, "let's be assholes."

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
57. Huh? Hillary 'can't delve too much into contrast with Bernie Sanders?'
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:39 PM
Feb 2016

What are you talking about? I thought Hillary was a full size, grown up Presidential candidate ready to win the office in her own right.

If she wins, will she be hobbled in her confrontations with Putin, needing her hubby to help out?

Personally, I don't think it helps her at all to have angry Bill out there reminding people of the all drama, all the time Clinton Administration.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
60. And Bill is insinuating that when we are mad we can't think. In other words,
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:46 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie is not thinking and neither are we, his mad as hell supporters!!

Subtle and clever, Bill. But we've had enough of you. I loved you in the 90's, but now just go back to saving the world with your foundation. You've lost your touch (back in 2008).
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