2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBill Clinton batters and blasts Bernie Sanders
Campaigning in Iowa ahead of the caucus last week, the former President seemed sent to merely soften his wife's image -- he shared gauzy memories dating back to law school about how everything she ever touched, she made better. But two days before the New Hampshire primary, where Sanders is leading by double digits in the polls, the Big Dog turned into an attack dog.
When youre making a revolution, you cant be too careful with the facts, he told the crowd of just under 300 who came to hear him speak Sunday afternoon while Hillary Clinton paid a visit to Flint, Michigan, to visit a church. I want you to laugh, because when youre mad you cant think.
Without mentioning Sanders by name, Clinton recited a laundry list of double standards and lack of details in policy proposals he has identified in Sanders campaign and labeled her opponent the champion of all things small and the enemy of all things big.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bill-clinton-bernie-sanders-hillary-218916#ixzz3zWiZuJBr
As a woman, Hillary Clinton can't delve too much into contrast with Bernie Sanders. The media would crucify her. Fortunately, she has Bill Clinton who can do the heavy lifting for her. He's almost acting like her vice-president.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)I think he deserves your respect.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)Only Dem who seems to get it
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)I know that the Sanders's campaign like to claim endorsements they haven't received, but come on. We all know Carville is a Clinton supporter.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Bernie Sanders is the only Dem who gets that it really is about the economy. I'm really happy his message is getting such attention - all the way to the White House!
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Its hardly Bernie's idea. Bill did that 25 years ago. Where was Bernie?
Hillary talked about the "billionaire class" at the 2008 Democratic National Convention. It's hardly Bernie's idea. Where was Bernie?
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Anyone who can be married to someone so diametrically opposed has indicated they think politics is a game, if you ask me.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Hillary Clinton has a message for your child " I know you may not be for me now, but I am for you, I will work hard for you, I will be a president who puts your future at the top of our national priorities.
So, even if your child doesn't support Hillary Clinton, she will fight and stand up for him .
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)And thanks.
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ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)he'd kill mine, though.
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DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and Hillary's friends like Lloyd Blankfeld wrecked it, and they want to KEEP DOING IT on OUR TAB!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and "banking reform." His policies were a disaster for the middle class in the long run.
polichick
(37,152 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)for the sole purpose of feathering their own nests. And that should never be forgotten.
kath
(10,565 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)I can't go there!
Jackilope
(819 posts)Just a nod to his infamous and lame quotes re: his lying about Lewinsky "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
Third Way, NAFTA, repeal of Glass Steagall.... his judgement and damage to the party means less respect.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)trillion
(1,859 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)Ask the people of FLINT how NAFTA has been working for them to this point
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)a liar he is.
Bad move.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and 4th term, Hillary will be his fifth and sixth. I bet Vlad is smiling knowing that America will put in a Clinton, as he will remind the Russians who tried to devour their country after Glasnost.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)He was loved by all the Bernie Sanders supporters, but once the campaign starts they start to disrespect the former President.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Clinton got more Republican policies through than any Republican ever did.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Sorry to disappoint you.
Of course, Bernie will go down in history as the best President. Feel the Bern!!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)And while I have many policy disagreements with him, I think that's a fair assessment and no small accomplishment. Now that we're back from the edge of the abyss it's time to turn in a new direction to improve the lives of average Americans.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)Clinton's presidency can't hold a candle to Obama's
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)He kept the Mr. Hyde side -- the Corporate Crony and Mean Spirited Scorched Earth Politician -- under wraps that night
Nanjeanne
(4,961 posts)demmiblue
(36,865 posts)I am not a Hillary Clinton fan, but you seem to be making her out to be a helpless little woman who is dependent on her man to win the nomination. Heavy lifting? I hope some Hillary feminists will come down on your arse.
cali
(114,904 posts)whoppers, this is just a minor one on their expansive pantheon of lies
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)while greasing the rails for himself and his Wall Street cronies... Hers Too!
cali
(114,904 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)He was the first Democrat to get elected President after 12 years of Republican rule.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Welfare Reform, the Telecom Act, NAFTA, and DOMA. A Republican President would've been happy to sign any one of them into law.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)More than 22 million new jobs, Highest homeownership in American history, Lowest unemployment in 30 years, Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation, Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans, Lowest poverty rate in 20 years, Paid off $360 billion of the national debt, Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)You're right. It was a great party.
And one hell of a hangover.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Supreme Court Justice.
Thank God he worked his butt off to get elected, something Bernie never bothered with until it was convenient for him. Can't imagine the picks another Repub might have forced on us.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)you don't think he's worked like hell to get where he is???
Fuck that shit
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)down long-standing obstacles about LIBERALS that saw the GOP dominate the political scene.
He could have run for President, too. Makes you wonder what was stopping him
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)God Damn that tastes good.
cali
(114,904 posts)They are... something else.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)husband's coattails since the Arkansas days. She would not be where she is were it not for her husband.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)When she talks about Bill Clinton's administration it's always "WE".
thereismore
(13,326 posts)I said yes, but it should be Hillary running, not Bill. Either she has changed or I changed or both. Either way, I can't support her now.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Let's hope history repeats itself, (substituting Bernie for Obama, obviously)
earthside
(6,960 posts)She should drop out of the race if she has to rely on her husband to "do the heavy lifting."
Astounding ... and being a 'strong' woman is the primary rationale for her candidacy?
(I have to laugh at the photo of Bill Clinton at the link ... he looks like an extra for the old Star Trek.)
jillan
(39,451 posts)mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)There probably still are some people who will listen to him but not a lot of them are women under thirty.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Says Mr NAFTA
Mr 1996 Telecommunications Act
Mr Good bye Glass-Steagall
Americans have reason to be fearful of your political policies.
I can see his dilemma...it's a hefty list.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)in Splendor. That they send out a very ageing Bill to defend his Wife and use their Pregnant Daughter to further their Ambitions is beyond comprehension!
It's time for both to retire and Grandparent "Baby Charlotte, the New Grandchild on the way and allow their Daughter to lead her Own Life!
Enough is Enough with the Clinton Family and their Past History that has to be dragged up Over and Over cutting out NEW and REAL PROGRESSIVE DEMS from Moving Our Party Forward!
Let the CLINTON's GO!
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)I thought Bill's actions were sometimes beneath the dignity of a former prez in 2008. Sad to see it again.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Between this and the gender pledge stuff, it's like the plan this weekend was, "let's be assholes."
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)What are you talking about? I thought Hillary was a full size, grown up Presidential candidate ready to win the office in her own right.
If she wins, will she be hobbled in her confrontations with Putin, needing her hubby to help out?
Personally, I don't think it helps her at all to have angry Bill out there reminding people of the all drama, all the time Clinton Administration.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Bernie is not thinking and neither are we, his mad as hell supporters!!
Subtle and clever, Bill. But we've had enough of you. I loved you in the 90's, but now just go back to saving the world with your foundation. You've lost your touch (back in 2008).
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)It doesn't make the Clintons look good.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Truprogressive85
(900 posts)Thank God for Obama who had to clean up Bill's dirty laundry - DOMA, DADT