so far over on the right? Personality I think we're way over-due to have it over on the left, and isn't that what this primary is about?

Then start your own goddamn party, and quit crashing ours.

They should just become republicans and get it over with.

The "party" has left the people for corporations. Bernie represents the people's Democratic Party.

how many do you think will take you up on that?

Good. Then you, Bernie, Raul, Keith and Baby Jane can jolly well start one. When not only Hill but Feinstein, Boxer, Frank, Pelosi, Dean, every other member of Congress (and yes, even McCaskill, bless her sweet heart) are villified, you've gone too goddamn far.

The sense of entitlement from the Clinton supporters is preposterous. It's a primary. We get to choose. It's nobody's turn.

or less likely that we'll win vs the GOP. And this Hillary-is-no-progressive stuff is making it less likely.

Do you think she was going to run as a progressive in the general? In September she was calling herself a proud moderate and this was in a primary while there was an actual socialist in the race.

continuum of political views to a few fixed labels for the sake of denigrating Clinton is beneath Bernie. It's hard to believe that anyone seriously thinks you can either be "moderate" or "progressive" and that's the end of the story.

Bernie probably pulled her to the left a bit during the primary, that's true. But what really matters is (A) do the Dems beat the GOP in the general and (B) what can they get done if they do. Everything else is peripheral.

She said she is a moderate and I assume she planned on running as one in the general election, which is usually what the Democrats do every election.

Personally, the labels "moderate" or "progressive" don't matter to me, what matters is what actually happens to the country. YMMV.

I myself have looked at her record and have determined it is not progressive. Hence, I will not back her in a primary contest.

Deal.

With.

It.

Your candidate will say anything.

Taking our party back from the corporatists who hijacked it. Geaux Bernie! We got your back!

It isn't much of a Democratic Party if it is sold out to corporate and wealthy benefactors is it?

It is like blaming the open door and allowing sunlight in revealing the scads of cockroaches (Koch-roaches?) on the mess within.

Where they belong.
Good Fucking Riddance!

The exact opposite is true.

Bernie is bring a lot of people bak INTO the party...

Gallup: Share of Democrats reaches record low

"Going back to 1988, 29 percent is the lowest overall share of self-identified Democrats since the polling institution began interviewing subjects via telephone instead of in person. According to its data from 1951 to 1987, however, there was never a year in which less than 37 percent identified themselves as Democrats, making the 29 percent the lowest in Gallup’s 65 years of asking the question."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/poll-political-party-identify-217562

Shafting over the middle and working classes has doomed the Dems, not Bernie, who is doing his best to pull back all those people your candidate and her husband drove off.

Oh, I know, because the CORPORATION OWNED PARTY ELITES HATE DEMOCRACY AND HATE THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE and would rather force corporate hacks down our throats!

She is exposing the unsavory alliance between establishment insider Democrats and the Wall Street investment bankers that wrecked our economy in 2007-2008.

This is going to alienate millions of moderate and liberal voters who are sick and tired of corrupt politicians.

I completely understand why.

Hillary shouldn't have run in the first place, so this is all so needless.

Fracture away, Bernie.

Imagine that.

The Clinton's are greedy and unworthy of leading our party...

Time to move on and return to our economic roots...

I see it as being quite the opposite.

dissatisfied people on the right and left in a 2 party system. With a coalition government a new party can get seats and then deal.

Jebus Haploid Christ in combat boots.

n/t.

Good riddence etc

Make up their minds about their priorities.

Getting back to our roots...what made the Democratic Party the party of the people. And the Progressives/Liberals want our party back. It's lost its way.

That's what they said in Iowa, too...remember? Bernie has a lot of introduction to America to complete before this plays out.

"Clinton's brazen acceptance of funding from interests promoting fracking, and all the hazards that result from fracking, speaks volumes. From an environmentalist's perspective, this is the equivalent of Hillary Clinton's prison lobbyist donors.

Bernie Sanders never accepted money from corporations involved in fracking, and certainly never accepted money from prison lobbyists. His challenger, on the other hand, is linked to oil and gas contributions that span across the globe. According to Reuters, "the Wall Street Journal reported that the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative have accepted large donations from major energy companies Exxon Mobil and Chevron." Clinton's foundations also accepted money from an office of the Canadian government linked to promoting Keystone XL.

For some reason, many Democrats overlook the fact that Clinton promises to uphold a progressive value system, while simultaneously accepting donations from corporations and governments working to undermine these principles.

When evaluating a future president, voters must look towards the candidate's value system. Nothing exemplifies the value system possessed by Bernie Sanders better than his desire to ban fracking. His plan to save America from the scourge of fracking is illustrated in a Washington Post piece titled Bernie Sanders puts forward ambitious plan to combat climate change"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/bernie-sanders-will-ban-fracking-_b_9156182.html#comments

It could only have been a tragedy if HRC had had no real competition for the nomination. She'd be back on Bill's 1996 platform, and you would be saying we should be glad to settle for that.

The rotten third way faction is worse than useless. Good riddence.

Go Denver...

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I'm sickened by the 'New Democrats' who destroyed the Democratic Party

I mean, it's fucking called the Third Way! They called themselves the Third Way!

The party has been fractured for quite a while. He's simply giving hope, energy, and a voice to so many who have been thrown under the bus since the neo-liberal takeover of the party.

He's giving the party a chance to be relevant to voters again. That's a good thing.

He's not alienating people. He's bringing them together. Everywhere he goes. That's a great thing.

I think your lens is fractured.

So what. If all it takes is some senior guy from Vermont to fracture the party it mustn't have been very strong to begin with.

I say saving, let's call the whole thing off.

It's past time the DNC had its ass kicked for turning it's back on the everyday working people and becoming another corporate whore

bringing it back to the people and out of the hands of the corporate masters who have been chipping away at it for 30 years.

Some of Bernie's supporters and some of Hillary's supporters are. But the candidates are not.

But every so often you need to sweep out the house, and now is a good time.

Hillary will be the nominee. Here's hoping those who regard her as a corporate stooge go either join the Greens or form their own party.

You offer no support or reason why you think this. As such, I'm guessing it's what you want to believe rather than based on anything concrete.

He has consistently represented priorities that Hilary is parroting because she just wants elected and not to help America.

Bernie goes the rout of FDR, which was/is the base of the party;

Bernie brings new blood into the party;

Bernie represents integrity!

And THAT fractures the party???

In that case:It was/is high time!

sickle on his chest today. Better get used to it Bernistas.

Bernie is unifying the Democratic Party, the Independents and some Republicans to one America.

and making it harder for Hillary to win the GE. Its very similar to Ted Kennedy and Jimmy Carter is 80'.

I didn't even see the other post but knew it had to be there because this is obviously ironic. It's not like this is the first day of school at DU...

I really don't want to watch you and Cali fuck with each other right out in public.

Full of derp. Dripping derp. Bernie is trying to restore a party that has so lost it's way dems are deserting by the millions. It's a freaking sinking ship steered by folks that are so full of party fed BS that they are unable to see the forest for the trees.

Bernie/Elizabeth 2016

Denver is going to be ROCKING tonight! Party till the CRACK of dawn would be my guess.

Hillary is going to lose NH and probably NV and you will be posting a lot more of this stuff because you are nervous.So what will you be like after NV? Even more nervous Right?

from the people it traditionally represented.