2016 Postmortem

smorkingapple

(827 posts) Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:10 PM Oct 2012

The constant looking down is going to be Obama's "sighing" "looking at watch" moment

The optics of that are terrible... He needs to stop that shit and look at Romney directly... It comes off as weak and as if he's intimidated. I'm sure he's not but it comes off that way..

That worked against McCain but not tonight. You're the FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. ACT LIKE IT!!!!!!!

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The constant looking down is going to be Obama's "sighing" "looking at watch" moment (Original Post) smorkingapple Oct 2012 OP

No...that is silly Evergreen Emerald Oct 2012 #1

Optics. It comes across as scared, when was last time you won an argument looking down? smorkingapple Oct 2012 #2

Do not agree. He is taking notes while Romney is sputtering and spitting. Ninga Oct 2012 #3

Or it looks like he's suffering a fool. polichick Oct 2012 #4

You're absolutely right. F. Kafka Oct 2012 #5

He's trying to keep from falling over laughing... Rosco T. Oct 2012 #6

What about Romney's sweaty lower face moment? Generic Brad Oct 2012 #7

He is taking notes Doctor Jack Oct 2012 #8

Romney looks constipated...or he's smirking..He's passing a brick...or creaming his pants. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #9

What the fuck do you need notes for? The next debate? smorkingapple Oct 2012 #10

Its called taking notes on Mittens lies. Tcbys Oct 2012 #11

What was he supposed to do? Rmoney was lying and condescending and gave nothing but platitudes! Overseas Oct 2012 #12

Stop making excuses Vietnameravet Oct 2012 #13

It's till style over substance. Come in like a bully and you win? Even if you're lying through your Overseas Oct 2012 #14

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)

1. No...that is silly

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:11 PM

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smorkingapple

(827 posts)

2. Optics. It comes across as scared, when was last time you won an argument looking down?

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:12 PM

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Ninga

(8,277 posts)

3. Do not agree. He is taking notes while Romney is sputtering and spitting.

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:12 PM

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polichick

(37,152 posts)

4. Or it looks like he's suffering a fool.

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:13 PM

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F. Kafka

(70 posts)

5. You're absolutely right.

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:13 PM

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It's very weird body language. I should have bought some whiskey.

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)

6. He's trying to keep from falling over laughing...

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:13 PM

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Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)

7. What about Romney's sweaty lower face moment?

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:13 PM

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That is reminiscent of Nixon.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)

8. He is taking notes

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:14 PM

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Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)

9. Romney looks constipated...or he's smirking..He's passing a brick...or creaming his pants.

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:20 PM

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smorkingapple

(827 posts)

10. What the fuck do you need notes for? The next debate?

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:20 PM

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Folks, he's not looking down at the notes as if he has a zinger or a comeback he wants to make sure he gets off.

It doesn't come off well. At all. It doesn't appear strong. At all.

We know he's a strong leader, but it's not coming off in this debate, especially since he's not laying into Romney the way he could easily do.

Tcbys

(63 posts)

11. Its called taking notes on Mittens lies.

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:21 PM

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Overseas

(12,121 posts)

12. What was he supposed to do? Rmoney was lying and condescending and gave nothing but platitudes!

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:58 PM

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Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)

13. Stop making excuses

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Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:02 PM

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Obama looked like a whipped dog with is head down..seemed defensive...I dont give a damn why he did that...that is just the way he looked..

Obama lost big time..Romney now has a much better chance of winning...

Overseas

(12,121 posts)

14. It's till style over substance. Come in like a bully and you win? Even if you're lying through your

Reply to Vietnameravet (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:22 PM

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teeth?

I really do think the President was trying to retain his composure while Mitt was allowed to roll out platitude and lie after lie, with none of those details that Jim was pretending he wanted to hear!

Jim let Rmoney rattle on and on and waited for a pause to stop him. Whereas when our president paused to think before speaking, Jim felt just fine to jump in and get him to stop.

The President made great points. He showed that Romney had no facts, no details. He showed that Romney is all talk and no truth.

I certainly hope that people on the street heard the president telling the truth.

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