2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHenry Fucking Kissinger
The only man who might *possibly* have more blood on his hands than Dick Cheney.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)she knows she is worse.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)I was about to ignore her past connections with Bloodinger, until she praised him at that very recent debate. The fact that she considers him her guru in foreign policy makes my blood turn to ice to think that this will probably be the policy a Clinton administration will follow. What can only happen is war and more war so that the war industries keep profitable.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)It's not funny, but I still couldn't help laughing.
Mbrow
(1,090 posts)Bat shit nuts, Thanks for the laugh!
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Although he called his character Harvey Wallinger.
https://m.
(Clever disguise. No one would've ever guessed!)
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Cheney responsible for 600,000 deaths in Iraq.
Kissinger responsible for 6,000,000 deaths across three continents.
If Clinton has a problem with Dick Cheney, it would appear that she thinks he didn't go far enough.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Plus other people killed in the Middle East, Central Asia, Africa, and wherever the hell else we've been engaging in secret wars.
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
How many people have been killed by the US military in the last 50 years?
But props to your numbers.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)though Vietnam and Cambodia suffered more deaths than Iraq.
OTOH, lots of people can be blamed for Vietnam, but Cheney had a special place in promoting the Iraq war.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)because Kissinger and Nixon sabotaged LBJ's peace talks in 1968, then agreed to almost exactly the same deal four years later to cement the Trickster's re-election.
Henry Kissinger is a demon in human form and utterly evil.
senta
(5 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)after Nixon was inaugurated. Just to clarify.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)ErikJ
(6,335 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)But didn't think that, as an outgoing President, he could do anything about it.
Rilesome
(33 posts)Why do they hate us. That's why.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Speaks to how far to the right the party has wandered. And how little memory we have of those events.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)No one can prove Cheney did anything wrong, so there's no reason to prosecute him for war crimes.
As for Kissinger, anyone that thinks he's anything but a good patriotic American that did what was best for America is a conspiracy theorist.
Lots of people get mighty upset when anyone appoints themselves the judge of who is and isn't liberal or progressive, but it kind of feels like the cutoff oughta be somewhere way before defending or praising people responsible for hundreds of thousands if not millions of deaths, otherwise neither word has any meaning at all.
John Poet
(2,510 posts).
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)Real Politic - euphemism for killing tons of poor people to achieve some military/political objective that makes Wall Street happy. I guess Hillary thinks he's an OK guy? Maybe she doesn't understand how many Americans despise war criminals like fuckhead Henry? Probably she thinks it will secure her some votes?
But like some have already said, it speaks volumes about our country that she even sees an opportunity to bring up his name. Too many citizens let the TV do their thinking for them (if they think much at all) and when they see war criminals like Kissinger, or Rumsfeld, or others on TV they get the message that these people are acceptable and credible.
Unfrigginbelievable!
jalan48
(13,881 posts)this is the kind of shit we are talking about.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Henry the K was all for taking the Vietnam War into Cambodia. That gave the world the Khmer Rouge and 2.5 million dead Cambodians in the killing fields.
in addition to the millions of Vietnamese and countless Laotians, Argentinians, Chileans, Timorese. This list is far from all-inclusive.
And she's so PROUD and HAPPY to embrace one of the post-WW II era's most notorious butchers.
That tells me every last thing I need to know about HRH.
In a world that truly cared about the rule of law, Kissinger would have been hanged for crimes against humanity 30 years ago and his ashes dumped in a river.
Rilesome
(33 posts)The bidding of the MIC. Which rolls through administration after administration. Follow the freaking money. Simple.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)As Fox Mulder put it, the Military-Industrial-Entertainment Complex.
Follow the freaking money.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)she really thinks that kudos from Kissinger are a feather in her cap.
To me, it shows that she is so much a part of the foreign policy elite that
she does not understand how millions of people, including most
democrats, feel about that unreconstructed war criminal.
Living in a bubble - a very dangerous one for the rest of us.
And by the way folks, don't just complain about this, do something -
like join Veterans For Peace
You owe it to your grand kids to at least try.
Now I am off to a pot-luck with the ladies from WILPF - they are almost
as much fun as the Raging Grannies.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)The information comes from documents declassified at the request of the National Security Archive.
They show that Mr Kissinger was eager for the US to stand up to Cuba.
The documents from the Gerald R Ford Presidential Library show that US officials devised plans to attack ports and military installations in Cuba in addition to measures ordered by Mr Kissinger to deploy Marine battalions based at the US Navy base at Guantanamo Bay to "clobber" the Cubans.
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"I think we are going to have to smash Castro," Mr Kissinger told Mr Ford in a White House meeting in February 1976, adding Mr Ford should defer action until after the presidential election that November.
"I agree," Mr Ford said.
US contingency plans drawn up on the options warned any military aggression by the US in Cuba could lead to a direct confrontation with the USSR.
"The circumstances that could lead the United States to select a military option against Cuba should be serious enough to warrant further action in preparation for general war," one document said.
The plans were never undertaken, as Jimmy Carter was elected president that year.
Thank God cooler heads prevailed and Carter won. We probably wouldn't be here now if Kissinger had his way.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)(Quote from Clinton's review of Kissinger's book: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clinton-reviews-henry-kissingers-world-order/2014/09/04/b280c654-31ea-11e4-8f02-03c644b2d7d0_story.html )
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)democrank
(11,100 posts)~PEACE~
~LOVE~
~BERNIE~
I don't know what sickens me more: her connection to the bastard, or the obvious fact that she thinks people would be stupid enough to regard it as an asset.
"Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize."
-Tom Lehrer
sorechasm
(631 posts)"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." Kissinger As quoted in The New York Times (28 October 1973)
"I've always acted alone. Americans like that immensely." ; Kissinger, as quoted in "Special Section: Chagrined Cowboy" in TIME magazine (8 October 1979)
"The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvelously."
As quoted in "Special Section: They Are Fated to Succeed" in TIME magazine (2 January 1978)
"America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests."
Henry Kissinger: The White House Years, quoted from Dinesh D'Souza: What's so great about America. This echoes Lord Palmerston's words: "We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual".
Best characterized as cold-hearted arrogance. Don't you dare question his motives or 'you will seem weak'.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Dr. Henry Killinger is a man (or being) of extraordinary means who offers his services as a consultant, advising those he believes to be truly in need, whether they be good or evil. He has always tried to do what he sees as best for his client. When his task is completed he moves on to find another person who needs his assistance.
The only exceptions to his kind behavior were when he murdered a group of obstinate union representatives that were thwarting his plan to re-start work at Venture Industries, and was indifferent to Byron Orpheus. He at times uses references from The Bible, ancient proverbs, and moral stories to represent the situations his patients are going through and will often use his powers to create situations similar to these parables as symbolic challenges that his patients must overcome. Oddly enough he assumes the role of the Devil during these metaphors.
His existence and abilities appear to be beyond mortal understanding as not even Doctor Byron Orpheus could penetrate into his mind and soul to find out the truth about his identity. Orpheus' attempt to use his abilities to read Dr. Killinger's mind proved so straining that it resulted in his temporary mental collapse.
http://venturebrothers.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Henry_Killinger