2016 Postmortem

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts) Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:56 PM Feb 2016

When You Ask Me To Vote For Hillary

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robyn-morton/when-you-ask-me-to-vote-for-hillary_b_9197254.html

I'm going to set aside all of the standard issues I might have with Hillary Clinton. This isn't about policies with which I disagree, or the fact that she's never met a war she didn't like, or that she has turned her back on her own policy goals for the sake of political expediency, or that I have the real sense she sold me out three times today before I even got out of bed.

Push all of those issues off to the side and focus on the ask -- what are you asking me to do when you ask me to vote for her in the primaries over Bernie Sanders?

You are asking me to consciously give up on any hope I may have of living a sane life in our country. To vote for her in the primaries, I would need to believe that the establishment on both the right and the left have so thoroughly strangled the political system that it is no longer "reasonable" to even try for reform. I have to be so scared of political opponents gaining power that it is worth it to sacrifice even the hope of being able to get ahead, have a savings cushion, access healthcare, send our kids to college, retire, or just not feel like we're constantly living on a knife's edge, all because of fear of a potential future.

If this doesn't make sense to you -- if you think it is reasonable to fear the opposition more than to hope for having a better life -- then I'm guessing you live a fairly comfortable life and don't feel strong motivation to change it.

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When You Ask Me To Vote For Hillary (Original Post) Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 OP

Thank you for such a fantastic articulation of how I feel. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #1

Thank you Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #2

Works for me. Thanks for the share! onecaliberal Feb 2016 #3

Fear is the product Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #4

If I might jump in here for a moment Glamrock Feb 2016 #5

The DNC, so far, isn't planning on supporting Bernie Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #6

I know man, I know Glamrock Feb 2016 #8

Ya kjnow, I dont' trust Hillary to put LIberals on SCOTUS. Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #10

someone read my mind roguevalley Feb 2016 #7

My guess/hope is that she learns something and gets the message.... kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2016 #9

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)

1. Thank you for such a fantastic articulation of how I feel.

Reply to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:59 PM

Feb 2016

You get a heart for that.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)

2. Thank you

Reply to onecaliberal (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:01 AM

Feb 2016

just to be clear - I didn't write this article. I just though it was excellent and wanted to share

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)

3. Works for me. Thanks for the share!

Reply to Ferd Berfel (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:01 AM

Feb 2016

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)

4. Fear is the product

Reply to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:03 AM

Feb 2016

and I don't frighten.

I also don't vote for people who consider Henry Kissenger a friend and role model.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)

5. If I might jump in here for a moment

Reply to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:08 AM

Feb 2016

I'm in full agreement with y'all. My only caveat is that, should she win the popular vote for the nomination, I'll support her. The Supreme Court ain't something to fuck around with...

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)

6. The DNC, so far, isn't planning on supporting Bernie

Reply to Glamrock (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:11 AM

Feb 2016

in fact they keep floating Kerry, Biden, now Bloomberg - basically anybody but Bernie
None of their alternatives has a chance but they are miking noises

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)

8. I know man, I know

Reply to Ferd Berfel (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:19 AM

Feb 2016

That's why I used the qualifier "popular vote". If Bernie wins and Hillary gets the nom, it's over. The WH, Supreme Court picks, and the Democratic party. I'm hoping we don't have shenanigans at our convention. I'd like to focus on the shenanigans at theirs. (I don't believe the GOP will allow a Trump nomination. I further believe Trump will run 3rd party if that comes to pass.) Should be highly entertaining!