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berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:31 AM Feb 2016

Two big surprises from Democratic Primary exit polls...

By ABC NEWS ANALYSIS DESK Feb 9, 2016, 9:46 PM ET

Sanders won women by 53-46 percent, as well as prevailing far more widely among men, 65-34 percent. Sixty-nine percent of women under 45 backed Sanders (including 82 percent of those under 30 women), while Clinton won women 45 and older by 56-43 percent.


By ABC NEWS ANALYSIS DESK Feb 9, 2016, 9:46 PM ET


Nonwhites roughly divided, 52-48 percent, Clinton-Sanders.
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Two big surprises from Democratic Primary exit polls... (Original Post) berniepdx420 Feb 2016 OP
Nevada polling will be interesting to watch over the next 10 days DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2016 #1
Nevada is a tough state to poll jfern Feb 2016 #9
Can Sec. Clinton win the nomination with a split "non-White" vote? KeepItReal Feb 2016 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #3
Bless your heart Fumesucker Feb 2016 #5
...... madfloridian Feb 2016 #7
Thanks... Fumesucker Feb 2016 #16
I believe you are mistaken on the political acumen of POC.... they know the struggle Bernie is berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #6
Wrong. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #10
Super delegates? The Tea Party & Grover Norquist style "Loyalty Pledges" that hinder politicians? TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #8
heads up SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #15
Thanks. Some people cannot accept that the HRC oaths are the same as a Norquist pledge. nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #17
Hillary told the truth tonight - not with words... but SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #18
Good luck with the superdelegates. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #11
Nope, Bernie won pledged delegates 15-9 jfern Feb 2016 #13
Keep talking down to them and lose them forever. nt artislife Feb 2016 #14
I noticed the smug superiority is beginning to wane.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #22
You lost those young voters already. Especially women and increasingly Blacks who you might want to sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #19
Bernie is not an atheist. Just like Jesus, he's Jewish. nt. mwooldri Feb 2016 #20
How did supporting hideous free trade deals, financial deregulation Chakab Feb 2016 #21
Hopefully, the unpledged delegates will wake up mdbl Feb 2016 #24
And what did Bill Clinton do to help them? mdbl Feb 2016 #25
SO YOU THINK IT IS GOOD THAT SHE CAN BUY DELEGATES SHE CAN'T WIN BY PPL VOTING? Dragonfli Feb 2016 #26
If he has a similar angrychair Feb 2016 #4
K sheshe2 Feb 2016 #12
There really isn't much crossover vote appeal for Clinton. Sky Masterson Feb 2016 #23
1. Nevada polling will be interesting to watch over the next 10 days
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:38 AM
Feb 2016

There hasn't been a Nevada poll since the end of December and before that one it had been two months going back to October. With the reaction from the White House and the Clinton campaign pre-New Hampshire...I think we can assume it's tightened up there. The Real Clear Politics average right now is 19.5 for Clinton, but that's based off of some old polls. If Sanders can win in Nevada...all bets are off. South Carolina would definitely be up for grabs. The statements on MSNBC about how Clinton never goes up in the polling and historically stays level and drops is huge news because I never knew that.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
9. Nevada is a tough state to poll
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:50 AM
Feb 2016

The good pollsters are too scared of being horribly wrong, so we we might just get junk polls from Gravis or Overtime.

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berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
6. I believe you are mistaken on the political acumen of POC.... they know the struggle Bernie is
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:46 AM
Feb 2016

outlining... don't ya think ? The system is rigged... Duh .. no shit...

Your point about Hillary having more delegates just aides in illustrating and illuminating the struggle.... Bernie is for the People (the voters) Hillary is for the Establishment (super delegates)

the Political Revolution is picking up steam... jump aboard.....

TheBlackAdder

(28,208 posts)
8. Super delegates? The Tea Party & Grover Norquist style "Loyalty Pledges" that hinder politicians?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:49 AM
Feb 2016

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If the super delegates go too far against the popular vote, "Political Legitimacy" comes into question.


The act of requesting or demanding "loyalty oaths" plays right into the image of a rigged system.


(Oh, with the "New Yorker atheist"... there is an allusion to "Brooklyn Jew." Why not just write it too?)


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SoLeftIAmRight

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15. heads up
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:03 AM
Feb 2016

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this person is offensive with this racial bullshit


&quot Oh, with the "New Yorker atheist"... there is an allusion to "Brooklyn Jew." Why not just write it too?) "


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SoLeftIAmRight

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18. Hillary told the truth tonight - not with words... but
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:09 AM
Feb 2016

her eyes showed fear - body posture slumped and her movements were mechanical and flailing - her voice was hollow and lost

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. Good luck with the superdelegates.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:50 AM
Feb 2016

They aren't committed, they can change their minds. It's very unlikely they'll overturn the pledged delegates elected by voters. If they do, there will be another Chicago '68. Even if the DNC was considering going scorched earth on the presidential nomination, there's still the down ticket races, where most of the superdelegates hold office. A civil war in August would cause a bloodbath in November.

http://www.history.com/topics/1960s/videos/violence-batters-1968-democratic-convention

jfern

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13. Nope, Bernie won pledged delegates 15-9
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:51 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary got the support of some superdelegates who will switch the moment they see the writing on the wall.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

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22. I noticed the smug superiority is beginning to wane....
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:25 AM
Feb 2016

In fact, a couple of Hillary supporters I know said they'd never actually heard Bernie speak until recently and it wasn't what they were told by other Hillary supporters. They were telling them Bernie was spending the whole time bashing Hillary to the cheers of a stadium full of misogynists.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. You lost those young voters already. Especially women and increasingly Blacks who you might want to
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:10 AM
Feb 2016

LISTEN to instead of TELLING them, as women were told, that we all OWE our votes to one candidate. If that candidate had actually LISTENED she would not have been surprised that her negative campaigning, along with her 'incremental, pragmatic, that word they think means something, caused he landslide loss in NH and Bernie and his fantastic supporters have only just begun.

Maybe this will help you, your post is dismissive of millions of Americans. It is talking DOWN to people, Bernie talks TO people, as equals.

We were told last May that Bernie would be gone by Summer. We laughed then as it as clear those in power have no clue what the people want. They are so out of touch as was evident tonight

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
21. How did supporting hideous free trade deals, financial deregulation
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:54 AM
Feb 2016

and mass incarceration help black people?

That's not even mentioning all of the times that the Clintons have shit on the black community to pander to other demographic groups when it suited them.

BTW she didn't do a fucking thing to "win" those super delegates. They're party insiders who committed their support to her nearly a year before any votes were cast. How anybody can go around bragging about that anti-democratic nonsense is beyond me.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
24. Hopefully, the unpledged delegates will wake up
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:22 AM
Feb 2016

That count can change. Sounds like an election system that needs to be changed also.

Dragonfli

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26. SO YOU THINK IT IS GOOD THAT SHE CAN BUY DELEGATES SHE CAN'T WIN BY PPL VOTING?
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 07:14 AM
Feb 2016

I guess one can purchase anything these days, especially elections.

angrychair

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4. If he has a similar
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:42 AM
Feb 2016

Showing with the young, females and males as he has in Iowa and now New Hampshire and splits the black vote, he wins South Carolina.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
23. There really isn't much crossover vote appeal for Clinton.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:52 AM
Feb 2016

There were actually voters torn between Trump and Bernie which is batshit crazy.
They are so different but this is the mentality of a part of the American electorate that votes.
I will vote for the eventual Dem Candidate but I truly believe that Clinton will not fare well in the general because she really isn't
creating any excitement among people. Bernie is.

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