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John_Doe80004

(156 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:51 AM Feb 2016

Clinton/Sanders, Sanders/Clinton ticket

How about that idea,

if Bern get's nominated he can grab Hillary as his VP pick,,,

If Hillary is nominated she can grab Bern as her VP pick,,,

think the tow would be a power house duo that would clean up in the election or would Bernie's Democratic Socialist label drag the campaign down?

just an idea i thought up.

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Clinton/Sanders, Sanders/Clinton ticket (Original Post) John_Doe80004 Feb 2016 OP
No.... daleanime Feb 2016 #1
I doubt either one of them is interested. CentralMass Feb 2016 #2
No thank you... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #3
If it begins to appear likely that Bernie is going to win ladjf Feb 2016 #28
That's "shoo in". Just fyi. kath Feb 2016 #44
Thanks for the correction. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #45
Well, if the "shoo" fits... "where" it? lol InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #60
Like the way you're thinkin... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #57
I think all the time that... DaGimpster Feb 2016 #66
No doubt had Elizabeth run, she'd be our next President... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #67
Especially if she were to have two terms after Bernie retires. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #72
Hillary would never cede the power. djean111 Feb 2016 #4
I think you have a good point there Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #36
No bigwillq Feb 2016 #5
No farleftlib Feb 2016 #6
How about mixing ammonia with chlorine bleach? HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #7
LOL! (eom) mak3cats Feb 2016 #11
LOL +1 LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #25
Well that will make the Democratic party breathe easier. Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #42
Perfect analogy. Zorra Feb 2016 #48
I'm not interested in either pengu Feb 2016 #8
Well, I can tell you that one person's ego would never allow it... casperthegm Feb 2016 #9
Only if you want to assure the Repubs take the White House. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #10
I think it would be a mistake to do that. napi21 Feb 2016 #12
Hillary would sink any ticket she is on gyroscope Feb 2016 #13
Sad how far Hillary's "star" has fallen politically, but you're right... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #64
Not a good fit for either candidate firebrand80 Feb 2016 #14
I think it's a fine idea. ucrdem Feb 2016 #15
No thanks. Autumn Feb 2016 #16
They have vastly different strategies for enacting change... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #17
Too old, they need balance. Bernie and Hillary need someone younger to balance out the ticket. JRLeft Feb 2016 #18
Especially if the GOP settles on Rubio. moriah Feb 2016 #22
Hillary is only interested in power. So no. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #19
No. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #20
No Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #21
Tulsi Gabbard JRLeft Feb 2016 #23
Interesting idea Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #30
Female, local girl, minority, and a vet. JRLeft Feb 2016 #32
Sen Warren tazkcmo Feb 2016 #27
No RiverLover Feb 2016 #24
No thank you. tazkcmo Feb 2016 #26
No! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #29
Not just NO - Hell NO. n/t in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #31
Not a chance in h- e- double-hockey-sticks. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #33
NO. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #34
No. SamKnause Feb 2016 #35
No, no, a thousand times no. SheilaT Feb 2016 #37
the nays have and I agree with them nt Jarqui Feb 2016 #38
No. Hillary would never choose Bernie because her backers wouldn't let her. stillwaiting Feb 2016 #39
First it wouldn't be a popular choice. Second, then the top of the ticket could be assassinated cascadiance Feb 2016 #40
Oil and water don't mix well. No. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #41
Hell no 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #43
Absolutely not!!!! Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #46
No and no NV Whino Feb 2016 #47
Since we have population much larger than 240 years ago olddots Feb 2016 #49
I'd be happy to vote for the ticket without the Clinton part. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #50
No. NowSam Feb 2016 #51
NO: Third Way's time has come and gone. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #52
Not only no, but hell no! peacebird Feb 2016 #53
No Kalidurga Feb 2016 #54
Give her an Ambassadorship to Somalia. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #55
Dumb idea. No way either would want it at their age. Aside from a ton of other reasons. HERVEPA Feb 2016 #56
Nope Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #58
What a slap in the face that would be! n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #59
Bwahahahaha! I can't even tell if this is satire anymore! Best one I've heard all day, regardless! Fearless Feb 2016 #61
You've watched too many tv sitcoms and tv dramas. Everything doesn't get solved neatly FSogol Feb 2016 #62
Hm... whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #63
Hell fucking no! wavesofeuphoria Feb 2016 #65
yeah, uh huh marions ghost Feb 2016 #68
Absolutely Howler Feb 2016 #69
Fuck/No frylock Feb 2016 #70
Not a chance. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #71
I think if Hillary gets the nom she will need Sanders. But Sanders would not need Hillary nt Quixote1818 Feb 2016 #73
I can't believe this got a rec. And you should keep thinking. ebayfool Feb 2016 #74
Electoral Reality: odds favor a Trump vs Clinton election - Clinton/Sanders ticket is most electable LVZ Feb 2016 #75
A friend brought this up over the weekend, and her comment was offensive but funny arcane1 Feb 2016 #76
No. If Sanders was just running to win the White House it might work mikehiggins Feb 2016 #77
It will be either a Sanders / Warren ticket or a Clinton / Castro hoosierlib Feb 2016 #78
Don't think either would... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #79
May be a good idea, 'win-wise,' elleng Feb 2016 #80
Bernie's 'DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST LABEL' would lift the ticket Trajan Feb 2016 #81
No. Never. malokvale77 Feb 2016 #82

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
28. If it begins to appear likely that Bernie is going to win
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:34 AM
Feb 2016

the nomination, Warren might be interested in the VP slot. If Bernie were to win the Presidency, he might not wish to keep the position after four years. Warren would then be a "shoe in" for another eight years. That would give us at least eight years of sane, ethical and highly intelligent leadership from the White House. The Senate and House would likely regain a Democratic balance.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
57. Like the way you're thinkin...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:28 PM
Feb 2016

While I wish Elizabeth had run her own campaign this time around - either along with, or in place of, Bernie - I'm definitely excited by the prospect of having both of them on the ticket. Just hope it's Donald Chump we're goin up against... they'll crush his obnoxious, pompous ass.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
67. No doubt had Elizabeth run, she'd be our next President...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

but, I'll settle for havin her as our next VP.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. Hillary would never cede the power.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:54 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie would be wasted as VP - reduced to attending events and the occasional tie-breaker.
I could see Warren as VP - because I think Bernie would give her more power. They would be teammates, not the president and a sidekick. JMO and all that.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
36. I think you have a good point there
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:40 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie would be wasted as VP.
Bernie and Warren would make good teammates, I think.

On the other hand, Warren in the Senate is a big plus.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
9. Well, I can tell you that one person's ego would never allow it...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 09:59 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary is all about Hillary. She's not interested in anything but the presidency. And I can't imagine that Sanders would feel that his ideas would have any chance of becoming a reality if he were to be VP.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
10. Only if you want to assure the Repubs take the White House.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:02 AM
Feb 2016

They have antithetical visions and policy prescriptions. Many voters of both group would see that as their candidate completely selling out.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
12. I think it would be a mistake to do that.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:03 AM
Feb 2016

His age doesn't bother ME, however, I've heard enough complaints from others to know that he needs a younger person than Hillary. The other objection is that Hillary is seen as being from New York, and Bernie is of course from NH. Two North East States. It's a much better idea to have a good candidate from some other "purple state" where you can bolster you chances. Somewhere like Ohio, Florida, or an important State in the Midwest, or West.

Many say the VP candidate doesn't matter, but think back 7 years ago when McCain chose Sarah. I KNOW many times I heard voters say "OH GOD, he's pretty old, the SHE could become President! ARGH!!!"

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
64. Sad how far Hillary's "star" has fallen politically, but you're right...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:35 PM
Feb 2016

It's Bernie's time now... we need to unite behind him as our eventual nominee so as to move this country forward.

Go Bernie!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
15. I think it's a fine idea.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016

Barack wound up doing much the same though he didn't put Hillary on the ticket. I think Hillary will prevail, and Bernie knows or has expected that all along, though it's possible that she won't. Either way I think they'd make a good team.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
17. They have vastly different strategies for enacting change...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:05 AM
Feb 2016

...it wouldn't work out well to have them fighting it out in the White House.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
22. Especially if the GOP settles on Rubio.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:16 AM
Feb 2016

That was a friend's prediction before Iowa who would actually end up with the GOP nomination after they got sick enough of Trump talk on forums like RedState to start lumping him in with Ron Paulers, and all of the Evangelical candidates did their grandstanding.

Young, while both of our candidates are older.

I could see Elizabeth Warren as Bernie's VP tap, especially since she declined to run and endorsed him.

I don't think Hillary would pick Elizabeth, just because the "girl power" ticket might be too heavy. At the same time, if Rubio or someone else young and claiming to be something less than batshit insane wins the GOP ticket, she might ask O'Malley, or someone else. (I know SNL has made plenty of jokes about her asking Bill, but he truly wouldn't be qualified for the full duties of the office, namely being the President in the unlikely event Hillary died first).

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
21. No
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:11 AM
Feb 2016

Either one would need someone younger. For Hillary, someone like Julian Castro probably.

For Bernie, I don't know. I don't think he and Warren would make a winning ticket. And since he does not really have strong ties with the Democratic Party, I can't think of any Dem that he would be a natural fit with. If he's the nominee, I'm sure he'll find someone though.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
30. Interesting idea
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:36 AM
Feb 2016

She seems quite interesting. Two things, though: I think most people would go, "who?". And secondly, the optics (although not the politics, of course) would probably remind a lot of people of McCain/Palin: old man and young, pretty, unknown woman from one of the off-mainland states.

Interesting though.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
27. Sen Warren
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:33 AM
Feb 2016

A Sanders/Warren ticket would win 50 states in the GE, IMO. But that's all it is, my opinion. I would also like O'Malley due to his youth and most of his positions.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
37. No, no, a thousand times no.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:40 AM
Feb 2016

They would NOT be a powerhouse duo. They are diametrically opposed in many essential ways, including the real need for a universal health care/single payer system, the role of the military around the world, the presence of Wall Street in our country's economy, just to name three things.

Can you seriously imagine Hillary campaigning for Bernie and sounding sincere? Can you imagine Bernie saying Vote for Hillary?

You can only suggest this pairing if you don't fully understand how the system works, or if you haven't been paying much attention to the genuine gulf between the two.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
39. No. Hillary would never choose Bernie because her backers wouldn't let her.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:50 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie would be foolish to choose Hillary because things happen.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
40. First it wouldn't be a popular choice. Second, then the top of the ticket could be assassinated
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:50 AM
Feb 2016

If you had a VP that extremists from either side would rather have in power, there would be a far higher likelihood of the top of the ticket getting assassinated, which would not be good for our country whether the person in question were Hillary or Bernie.

i'd rather have someone like Warren as VP for Bernie, as then if Bernie wanted to only be president for one term, then Warren running for 2020 would be a great thing. He'd have the freedom to stay in office one or two terms, and those voting him in would feel good either way.

Bernie as VP to Clinton would also lose his power in the Senate too, which most of us wouldn't like if he weren't president.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
49. Since we have population much larger than 240 years ago
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:33 PM
Feb 2016

I think we should have around 40 co-presedents that represent the diversity of the population and are not allowed to be lobbyists for monopolies .
Naw tooooo logical .

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
52. NO: Third Way's time has come and gone.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:36 PM
Feb 2016

So like the rest of her corporate coddle club, Clinton should neither be at the top of the ticket, nor anywhere near it. Plenty of good VP choices beside Sanders. Ms. Turner would be my favorite, although I wouldn't mind Martin O'Malley either.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
53. Not only no, but hell no!
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:42 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary would not strengthen Bernie's presidency, and if she were to win the nomination then I want Bernie in the Senate holding her feet to the fire!

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
54. No
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:49 PM
Feb 2016

I would stop supporting Bernie if he announced Hillary as his VP pick. He needs to go outside the box when he chooses his VP way outside. I think he might even pick someone maybe 5 people have even heard of.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
62. You've watched too many tv sitcoms and tv dramas. Everything doesn't get solved neatly
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:31 PM
Feb 2016

in 30 or 60 mins. Neither HRC nor Sanders will be each other's vp pick. It never happens in real life. There are no easy solutions.

LVZ

(937 posts)
75. Electoral Reality: odds favor a Trump vs Clinton election - Clinton/Sanders ticket is most electable
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:31 PM
Feb 2016

Whether you like Clinton or Bernie, you must look at the most likely reality and prepare for it.

The current reality is that it will likely be Trump vs Clinton in the general election.

If that happens, the best way to keep the most fervent supporters of both candidates engaged, young people and minorities, is to ensure there is some sort of negotiated power sharing. That is what democracy is all about.

As Clinton's VP, Bernie would serve as our irrepressible and highly vocal progressive inside watchdog objecting proudly, loudly and publicly when the Clintons stray from our progressive agenda. Outside of the presidency itself, what more visible platform could we have than an insider keeping the American public informed of what is really going on behind closed doors in Washington?

Trump is far stronger among the general public than polls now indicate. The election may be very close and we cannot afford to lose three or more Supreme Court seats to anti-progressive Republicans should some of you decide to sit out the election in spite.

Clinton may not want Bernie as VP to serve as a thorn in her side but electoral reality and a grassroots movement to draft Bernie as her VP choice would go a long way toward forcing her hand.

I really wish that someone who is Facebook social media savvy would start a Clinton-Sanders movement GROUP to share our thoughts about this. There are already two very small Facebook Clinton-Sanders PAGES but that format is not conducive to member interaction. At the start, to gain membership, a PUBLIC FACEBOOK GROUP would be best. Later, after the inevitable trolls and spammers join in, it should be changed to a PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
76. A friend brought this up over the weekend, and her comment was offensive but funny
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:33 PM
Feb 2016

"Hillary's dick is too big to settle for Vice President"

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
77. No. If Sanders was just running to win the White House it might work
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016

but people trying to build a movement don't generally enlist the people who represent what they are fighting against.

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
78. It will be either a Sanders / Warren ticket or a Clinton / Castro
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016

If not Julian Castro, then it will be Corey Booker...

But Clinton's first choice will be Castro...

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
79. Don't think either would...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:39 PM
Feb 2016

...accept. But, they will work and appear together. They just don't balance each other correctly. Both would need a "next generation" running mate, first. Hillary brings experience, but it's way too much... people wouldn't accept her as subservient to Bernie. He brings the left, but she'll be looking for left-center and people would see him as a sell-out.

elleng

(130,964 posts)
80. May be a good idea, 'win-wise,'
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:40 PM
Feb 2016

haven't thought it through, but don't know how the principals would go for it OR how it would work. We're spoiled now with such a good working relationship w Obama/Biden.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
81. Bernie's 'DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST LABEL' would lift the ticket
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:46 PM
Feb 2016

It's what people really want, but the word has been poisoned by abuse over the decades ...

I'm not ashamed of FDR ... Are you?

Voted into office FOUR TIMES ... imagine a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST winning the top office in the land FOUR TIMES !

Please name the NON-Democratic Socialist who was so beloved that they were voted into office four times ...

The conservatives have been pounding away at that label for decades ... And now, here comes you ....

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