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On TV just now- this gives Hillary a chance to "re-tool" (Original Post) SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 OP
Re-tool? She gonna get rid of her current tool? Bye Slick. n/t 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #1
Boom! kath Feb 2016 #3
Yes yes, more BOOM! lol jham123 Feb 2016 #16
She can re-tool all she wants but the facts remain casperthegm Feb 2016 #2
That's what a primary is for. Orsino Feb 2016 #4
The problem is not the mechanics, the car is a lemon. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #5
So The American Electorate Will See Yet Another 'New Hillary'..... global1 Feb 2016 #6
Still the favorite.. speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #7
Yes, still a worry. Kind of like "prying this political grip from my dying hands" or something libdem4life Feb 2016 #8
She is staying with her pattern of making bad decisions SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #10
Oh that's it.... jham123 Feb 2016 #18
Certainly a good example of.. speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #19
so, in your eyes.... jham123 Feb 2016 #21
Hillary is arrogant ... earthside Feb 2016 #27
Very good post. speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #28
The irony of ironies.. speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #9
She'd better do it fast; there's another debate tomorrow. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #11
Mrs. Clinton has to start to listen & team with Sen. Sanders, or EVERY state will be much harder. Sunlei Feb 2016 #12
I have been saying... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #13
That tool has been worn down beyond its capacity R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #14
Spin! longship Feb 2016 #15
Thanks for that! With the exceedingly high spin level of late, ol' Taz has been on my mind a lot. kath Feb 2016 #20
Let the re-branding begin! /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #17
When Reprogramming--DON'T USE MARCO RUBIO'S I.T. STAFF! nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #22
Most tools are now made overseas due to NAFTA. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #23
ouch SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #24
True that Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #25
Hillary v11.0. It's Different This Time (Again)! LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #26
CAmp Weathervane doing what it does best Android3.14 Feb 2016 #29
The American voters are retooling. floriduck Feb 2016 #30
She going to use a bigger hammer? frylock Feb 2016 #31

casperthegm

(643 posts)
2. She can re-tool all she wants but the facts remain
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:30 AM
Feb 2016

And these are the facts;

Her position on Keystone (or lack of one). She waited until the same week that Obama made his decision before announcing where she stood. That's not standing up for the environment. That's politics.

Wall Street money. Whether it's impression or reality, it's there and it can't help but make me wonder. Generally speaking, it's hard to imagine the banks and Wall Street throwing all of that money at her and saying "here you go, we don't expect anything in return."

Her opposition to Glass Stegall. Though I do recall her telling the banks to "cut it out." Thanks Hillary.

Her Iraq vote. You may be sick of hearing about it but it's a big deal. It was poor judgement and lack of foresight. Sanders saw that it would destabilize the region. And it did. Now we not have the legacy of the Iraq war, we have the current ISIS situation.

Speaking of that, there is the no-fly zone proposal. Another poor foreign policy decision. What happens when Russian jets cross that line? You have to be prepared for that and I don't see it.

The email and server investigation by the FBI. Sorry, it's real. It very well could end up being nothing in the end, but what if it's not? What if it drags on until the general election and then she gets indicted? Then you end up with a republican in the White House.

Gay marriage. You can see how she has flip flopped over the years, as confirmed via politifact. Another change based on the political winds.

All of this and more have led me to distrust her judgement and her authenticity.

global1

(25,252 posts)
6. So The American Electorate Will See Yet Another 'New Hillary'.....
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:33 AM
Feb 2016

How many times are they going to have to re-invent her. Aren't the American People wise to this re-tooling by now.
Same book - Different Cover

One thing about Bernie's campaign - he's been on point and is presenting the same platform since the inception of his run for the nomination. Actually - the same platform - his whole political career. He doesn't respond to focus groups and change his story. That consistency portrays confidence, integrity, truthiness. He's genuine.

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
7. Still the favorite..
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:37 AM
Feb 2016

because of the superdelegates and disarray of the Republicans.

But she's getting bad advice from her inner circle, who are living in past times and are out of touch. That's the downside of being in the corridors of power for 20+ years, everything is filtered through other insulated people.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
8. Yes, still a worry. Kind of like "prying this political grip from my dying hands" or something
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:42 AM
Feb 2016

similar. It's not natural...or logical.

jham123

(278 posts)
18. Oh that's it....
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:28 PM
Feb 2016

...bad advice from "people"

Couldn't be the plethora of other fiasco's that she and she alone orchestrated, even down to Albright trotting out there and damning Female Bernie supporters to hell....

Couldn't be that....

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
19. Certainly a good example of..
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:30 PM
Feb 2016

bad advice. A sign that the people around her are a few decades behind the people they are trying to reach.

jham123

(278 posts)
21. so, in your eyes....
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:33 PM
Feb 2016

"None" of what is happening is Hillary's fault? This is all due to her "people" telling her to do wrong things and if left to her own she would have made different choices?

earthside

(6,960 posts)
27. Hillary is arrogant ...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:00 PM
Feb 2016

... and surrounds herself with equally arrogant people.

"That's the downside of being in the corridors of power for 20+ years, everything is filtered through other insulated people."

This is absolutely correct, in my estimation.

Plus, of course, for Hillary this seems to be part of her life's ambition: to be a part of the elite governing class with lots of money and influence.

For me, Hillary just reeks of the "I know what is best for you" attitude; I never get a sense of empathy with regular folks from her; I never even get the noblesse oblige attitude of FDR or Bobby Kennedy from her.

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
28. Very good post.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:06 PM
Feb 2016

I also don't think its entirely her fault. She was separated from her college and law school cohort when she went to Little Rock, made new friends, brought some back to Washington, they didn't translate well for the most part, and had to pick new friends and advisors from the kind of people who gravitate to power.

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
9. The irony of ironies..
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:48 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary will defeat Trump, after beating him up as an arrogant uncaring New York billionaire.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
13. I have been saying...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:56 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary should say - I did not believe that the American people would support these ideas - I can be practical but with your support I will go for the golden ring.

longship

(40,416 posts)
15. Spin!
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:24 PM
Feb 2016

Like this?



We all know that Bugs always gets the best of the spin. Always!

(Just posted the same in another thread.)

Spin is an exemplar of desperation.

kath

(10,565 posts)
20. Thanks for that! With the exceedingly high spin level of late, ol' Taz has been on my mind a lot.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 12:30 PM
Feb 2016


that clip should get posted on all the bullshit spin threads.
 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
30. The American voters are retooling.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:15 PM
Feb 2016

On both sides of the aisle, the electorate has decided it's past time to pick the sharp tools in the shed, instead of the old and rusty ones.

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