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Almost 60k signatures now.

Complete with slightly over heated comment.
Slightly.

It's done x 2 in this household

Motherfuckers...

Signed.

to these party shenanigans have done her in. ENOUGH is ENOUGH!

Many people I know feel the same, they think the DNC and the RNC suck and are fed up with the entire system!

This needs to be investigated. It's just like her Donors giving Chris Mathews wife money to get him to shill for her. She is attempting to buy the election.

Hillary, understand this, if you win the Primary by Super Delegets alone we will not support you!!!

I'm going to see if I can change my registration now and still vote for Bernie, I am completely finished with these cheating lying piece of shit bastards.

This country needs to start looking out for everyone, and Bernie is the only candidate I've heard that knows what equality, opportunity and fairness mean for the 99%!

And by the way, there's no crying in baseball.....or politics.

what the final vote count. in the end, he won by less than 1/2 percent of the final vote count, but the super delegates had put him over the top some time before.

about the election process that you see this as 'unfair'. It is set up so that those who pay closest attention to elections over a number of years and have worked for electing Democrats to office for many years gain an added voice by doing so.

I am a longtime GOTV activist in a purple state and go through long days and nights every election year, and not just presidential years. I am not a super delegate and will never even bid to become one, but, I do understand why they are given the slightest privilege within the party that they are given. Without these people the party and the organized left, itself, would have collapsed under the pressure of the muscular Bush years.

Elections are HARD WORK year in and year out. Some of you need to get a grip and start facing reality. Sanders would be the last to complain about what some of you complain about in such a knee-jerk fashion. Want to know why? Because he's been in an office for 3 decades. He knows how hard it is and how hard it is to MAINTAIN. Some of his greatest assets to his campaign are also super delegates who EARNED their position the hard way - by being there many more hours, weeks, months, and years than 99.5% of the party.

Got it.

don't like it, then work to change it in the years before the next prez primary. Of course, one can always take the HRC supporter route from 2008 that some (not all) have chosen - complain loudly and incessantly about super delegates then gloat about it 8 years later.

Or….take action to change the process in the years before.

they will,support the winner or risk the ge, the party, and their own political futures.

them in.

My ears are still ringing!

They do not seem to realize a bigoted echo chamber merely reinforces the bigotry. It in no way encourages independent thought.

If superdelegates overturn the will of the people as expressed through regular delegates, it'll be President Trump. Because Yuuuuge numbers of the voters won't take kindly to that.

But it is fun to see the masks pulled away.

a F about elections!

she'll bring down the democratic party.

...if the party doesn't want us... Fuck them!

Time for a write in campaign to break both parties...

Not among real Democrats.

And this is the Democratic Party, after all. Bernie knew the rules when he chose to run as a Democrat.

Just because a Democratic Socialist/Independent decides that he will finally declare himself to be a Democrat and use Democratic Party resources to run for President - after years of refusing to join the Democratic Party - doesn't mean that he can also rewrite party rules that have been in place since the 1970s.

Every other Democrat has played by these rules since them. Why should Bernie be any different?

Because you are obviously not among them.

You need independents more than they need you. Without independents, you lose.

of various stripes help to give us Nixon, Raygun, and Bush II in my lifetime. I only except Bush I because he was no worse than Raygun and not anywhere near as bad as his son. I absolutely loathe "Independents" for that.

I don't share your "purist" principles and never will. I am very proud to be a real Democrat and have no need of comfort.

I'm proud of things I've accomplished. You're proud that you signed your name to a document.

me!

Enjoy your bubble!

But, you know that.

Bernie has more class in his pinky than that whole herd.

he is running at all, and would complain no matter what.

Bill opened the the gates for Wall Street takeover of the Democratic party during his administration. What was once Democratic Party values and platform is all but a hollow shell of itself, which most of us are too painfully aware. So tossing out moribund grenades naturally lands with a thud at this point.

just saying.. come up with something fresh to make your case, if you honestly think you have one to make.

respect whatsoever.

Born and bred in MT and a gal to boot. You have a lot to learn in just about every single way.

learn new things every day, but after 65 years on this planet and surviving, witnessing up front and personal political shenanigans/tomfoolery/outright corruption within our political system and "elected" office holders, I know I've learned a thing or two in just about every single way.

Thank you. and again, this ain't the 1970's.

been there too.

Brick by brick if necessary.

And we know how that turned out
Relax and

If they want a real revolution in the Party... then let them try it.

If they think they can force Hillary down peoples' throats they've got another thing coming. All that will do is energize Bernie's constituency even more.... just what Hillary needs to complete her self-dstruction.

Hillary is like a saleslady trying to sell us something. I just find her so plastic and a slick talker.

Think of it as redistribution of votes.

I'm glad this happened now. I hope more people see this and make it to the polls and vote for Bernie. Steal an election and pay the consequences. I have said early on that I would still vote for HilLIARy if she's the nominee. But if they do this kind of shit, I will write in Bernie's name. Laugh that off. And I'm not alone.

the new comers. You leave.

I am a Bernie supporter and volunteer.

At 52, I am a lifelong democrat.

For me to vote for her, she must defeat Bernie with no doubt as the will of the people.

I will leave the party if these DLC shenanigans continue.

My fucking ignore is getting longer and longer, I have to add every silly person I see to it,it is a compulsion with me...Gets longer every day...cannot stand silliness..

If Bernie supporters left the Democratic Party, the remaining Party would be so small a Democrat would not be elected dog catcher. We would remain under corporate and Republican rule, something neither of us would like too much!

can you be more specific about which of us you want to go away and form a 3rd party (which would almost certainly cost Democrats multiple national elections)?

eta: i have been neutral in this primary so far, but let me just say you are doing a bang-up job of representing your preferred candidate

Your blind support for Hillary is what will damage the Democratic party.

This is Bernie Sanders party now, deal with it.

That's funny considering Hillary's demographics have "see a woman president" on their bucket list.

30% of the electorate make up your party, and that number continues to drop.

Thomas Jefferson had advice that was aimed at you.

Ignorant, too.

I know.

The supers can change their minds, but it rarely happens. The failsafe of the superdelegate was first explored after Kennedy was murdered in 1968. I believe that the 1972 election caused the party to adopt the measure.

But it does sound vaguely like redistribution of wealth... in a way.

nominating process? Indies have ZERO right to determine our nominee. they aren't registered Dem. They don't attend our meetings or have anything to do with our operations. Why no OP's reaming the Iowa and NH Democratic establishment?

Of course Indies voted for Sanders in Iowa and NH, so maybe your hypocrisy is showing just a little, eh? A little non-democracy is ok when it helps your guy.

that regard.

In order to vote in the California primary. I have a right to register/vote any way that I want to. Sorry that is so upsetting to you. If you don't like it, um, too bad??

is your right. But that is not what happens in all states.

we have an open primary here.

California is an open primary state.
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/political-parties/no-party-preference/

"Fairness" is voting in a Dem or Repub primary so that each party picks their nominee. I like Bernie but the fact that he's a registered independent running in a veiled democratic socialist label doesn't sit right. He's riled up independent voters and a social media driven college crowd who spew hatred here like Trump supporters. Let the process play out and a true democratic candidate will emerge as the nominee... I agree that independents shouldn't vote in party primaries and will see what happens in the upcoming Dem Primaries...

But I have voted strictly for Democrats my entire life. Just because I didn't fill out a form doesn't mean I am less liberal or deserving of a vote than registered D's. This is NOT the Party of exclusion.

Since when did people like me become mudbloods?

ETA: you don't have to register any party affiliation in Virginia to vot in the primary.

Thank you for voting for dems. This isn't the GE.

It has never been necessary.

And if they don't vote for your candidate in the GE, it will be their fault that your candidate lost, right?

but we're required to vote for the candidate of your choosing? Have I got that right?

Take a guess as to who has my vote.

Lovely democratic attitude? Do you even read what you post?

Think much of yourself ?!!?!?

YOU do not attend meetings. Do NOT help organize the party. Do NOT attend conventions. You do NOT knock on doors doing the work of growing the party through voter registration. You do NONE. ZERO. NADA of the work that goes into developing and maintaining a nationwide organization yet you think you have the right to vote as if you do.

Well take a flying fucking leap backward. BECAUSE YOU DON'T.

is check a box on a voter reg. form. Pretty damn simple, but evidently too much for you to do.

They aren't fooling anyone except gullible Clinton supporters. The superdelegates don't vote until the convention...they can change their mind, as they did in 08. At the convention, the superdelegates will fall in line with the majority of pledged delegates. Otherwise there will be a November bloodbath for Democrats including downticket races.

the superdelegates have never gone against the majority wishes. The reason is probably the threat that those superdelegates presently in elected office can be sure they will be voted out soon after. Bad for everybody.

becomes non-democratic with regards to our most basic practices in democracy, they will lose me for good.

I've said all along that (a) I really don't dislike HRC and think she'd be a good POTUS and that (b) while I support Sanders I'd happily vote for her in the GE, especially considering the crappola we'd be facing from the other side, whichever slime emerges from that feces-flinging contest.

But if this were to happen, I'd have to reexamine all of that. It would be the opposite of democracy.

I really hope this doesn't happen.

If Hillary gets the nomination against the will of the voters, I may sit out a presidential election for the first time in my life. And I'm pushing 60.

are free to change their mind at any time. Most of them have the decency to follow the wishes of their states voters.

Hopefully they will see that she is misusing their pledge to claim inevitability. They should not even be listed in primary polls.

The justification is that it's needed in case a scandal breaks regarding the leading candidate shortly before the Democratic National Convention.

However, another means could be created to deal with that situation. For example, letting the scandal-plagued leading candidate file a form to release the delegates he-or-she won to vote for another candidate.

and have been upset with them for years now because IMO I've seen so few of them going to bat for "we the people" even IF they didn't have control of either House.

I told the person who answered that to me even IF they didn't have control I RARELY HEARD any of them even stand up outside of their offices to at least make speeches in the public square and denounce in strong terms how offended they were about the Repuke policies. Told them I realized they may not have had the NUMBERS to vote against issues, but they could have at least made enough noise and tell their constituents how they were willing to help us fight back. I've seen so little of it in many, many years. And then of course there are the DINO's who actually voted WITH the Repukes!

Mainly made the point that people in this country might have FINALLY reached the boiling point, and STILL they fight against us by getting on the Hillary band wagon before ANY VOTE had been cast.

I find it offensive that they don't understand THEY WORK FOR US, but apparently THEY don't think they do! They are going to find that THIS DEMOCRATIC PARTY doesn't really want anything to change. They should be out showing us how MUCH they appreciate their constituents, but basically they are completely UNWILLING to go against "group think" and fall in line with the DNC meme!

We all need to let our Congress Critters know about our anger, and in my case depending on who the nominee is, I will be leaving the Party. I will vote for our nominee, even if it's Hillary... but after that I WILL let the door hit my ass on the way out.

I NOW need to see WHAT they will do for us, the people of this country and STOP us from becoming a complete OLIGARCHY!

That's how the Democratic Party functions. He hasn't been a member so I give him a pass, but he can't complain now.