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Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:07 PM Feb 2016

After Sanders' Big Win in New Hampshire, Establishment Figures Want to Scare You with Superdelegates



Here's Why It's Bullshit

Bernie Sanders’ win in the New Hampshire primary Tuesday night came with some pretty impressive footnotes:

1. His margin of victory was the highest for a non-incumbent candidate in any state since JFK.

2. He won almost every demographic group—male, female, young, old, moderate, liberal, college educated, high school-educated—with the exception of voters making more than $200,000 per year.

3. He became the first Jewish candidate to win a state primary in U.S. history.

4. He became the first non-Christian candidate to win a state primary in U.S. history.


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The narrative has changed, which means that establishment figures are duty-bound to change it back. If you’re an avid follower of politics, you may have seen tweets like these in the aftermath of the win:

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Oh no, you might be thinking, look at those delegate totals! He’s getting killed! The New Hampshire primary is meaningless! He didn’t even really win! On the Sanders Reddit page this morning, users were asking whether the whole primary process was a Sisyphean task, and if victory was impossible.


Make no mistake: That’s the point of this kind of messaging. To discourage, dismay, and dishearten, in the wake of something that should feel really positive for Sanders supporters. Reality check: The system is bigger than you, and you can’t change it, so go home.
I have no clue if Timothy McBride has any affiliation or even affection for Hillary Clinton, and he was certainly not alone in advancing this talking point. What I do know is that he tweeted these statistics out last night and again this morning, and whatever his intentions—and those like him—Clinton herself could not have written a better media script.

So what’s happening here? Are those delegate counts right?


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http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251



This is a good explanation of how the process works and the motivation behind those misleading tweets etc. it's well worth the read.

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After Sanders' Big Win in New Hampshire, Establishment Figures Want to Scare You with Superdelegates (Original Post) Uncle Joe Feb 2016 OP
Have no fear. seaotter Feb 2016 #1
I know, the author makes that point in the article. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #2
Indeed. seaotter Feb 2016 #6
who is the establishment that you are afraid of? these superdelegates have riversedge Feb 2016 #3
I'm not afraid of them, that's the point of the article, how propaganda is used to mislead the Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #4
Yeah that's gonna backfire. dchill Feb 2016 #5
All that tweeting and talk of super delegates after Bernie's lopsided win in New Hampshire Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #8
They're trying to curb your enthusiasm. dchill Feb 2016 #7
Exactly. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #9
If Hillary supporters want the superdelegates to choose the nominee,... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #10
There you go. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #11
That's awesome. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #15
They're only digging their hole deeper. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #12
they are making a a great case for bernie! nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #14
Yeah, it's hilarious. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #16
Good old voter depression Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #13
It's just scare tactics, the people need to throw that cereal in their face. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #17
 

seaotter

(576 posts)
1. Have no fear.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:08 PM
Feb 2016

These are mere "endorsements" at this time. Super delegates do not count until they cast their vote.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
3. who is the establishment that you are afraid of? these superdelegates have
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:11 PM
Feb 2016

been here since the beginning of the campaign. And only now you are all hot and bothered.

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
4. I'm not afraid of them, that's the point of the article, how propaganda is used to mislead the
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:13 PM
Feb 2016

people into despair.

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
8. All that tweeting and talk of super delegates after Bernie's lopsided win in New Hampshire
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:17 PM
Feb 2016

is just another sign of Clinton campaign/supporters fear as to what's happening among the people.

So they trot this out there as a means to discourage and create despair, and thereby dampening the peoples' will to vote.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
10. If Hillary supporters want the superdelegates to choose the nominee,...
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:18 PM
Feb 2016

Then there's no reason for them to vote in the primaries.

TIME TO PANIC

(1,894 posts)
12. They're only digging their hole deeper.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 06:47 PM
Feb 2016

By trying to discourage us with the super-delegates, they're exposing how undemocratic the process has become.

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