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Thursday's Debate could be Bernie Sanders's last, best chance to appeal to black voters (Original Post) bravenak Feb 2016 OP
Make sure to wait until after the debate..... daleanime Feb 2016 #1
He did not deliver bravenak Feb 2016 #2
You didn't wait. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #3
They seem to be done.., daleanime Feb 2016 #6
I left to go watch cartoon network bravenak Feb 2016 #10
I'll bet white racism made you do that. n/t Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #11
I'm watching. Still not convinced. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #4
I watched cartoons. bravenak Feb 2016 #9
Sanders will not pander. KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #5
So, it's a post-racial America? I don't think Bernie believes that. bettyellen Feb 2016 #13
That's a whole other thing. KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #14
Well he added social justice issues to his website (including @POC) only after the glaring omission bettyellen Feb 2016 #15
Yes and no. Bernie was addressing BLM issued before NN16, but not with BLM phrases. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #19
but he did adjust his strategy, and promised to money bomb black communities and visit Rev Al now bettyellen Feb 2016 #20
You might be right. KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #21
Well there is too much of a RW war on women for me not to care about our civil rights. I know for bettyellen Feb 2016 #22
That ship has sailed. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #7
Gone baby GONE bravenak Feb 2016 #8
the people "standing on street corners" didn't resonate with inner city me. bettyellen Feb 2016 #12
OTOH "MSBNC Host Reid Talks With African American Voters In SC, And Finds No Clinton Supporters" thesquanderer Feb 2016 #16
Umm hmm bravenak Feb 2016 #17
Nope, but the AA vote may not be the entire blowout some are expecting. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #18
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
3. You didn't wait.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:11 PM
Feb 2016

You posted above at 9:36. No?

Perhaps your mind is made up?

Why pretend otherwise?

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
6. They seem to be done..,
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:02 PM
Feb 2016

pretending, there's only one thing, or person, that matters. For everything and everyone else, "there's a special place in hell".

KentuckyWoman

(6,692 posts)
5. Sanders will not pander.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:32 PM
Feb 2016

He share's President Obama's ideas that we are the United States of America not black/white/gay/straight/urban/rural etc.

So if you are looking for him to single out a specific group for special considerations you'll be disappointed.

KentuckyWoman

(6,692 posts)
14. That's a whole other thing.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

Only an idiot would deny there are serious racial problems in this country.

The OP was expecting Bernie to appeal specifically to black voters. That's not his style. He's the type that stands for what he stands for because it's the right thing to do, not because he wants to gain favor with a specific subset of voters. I find no indication he's been willing to pander at any time in his life. I can't see him starting now.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
15. Well he added social justice issues to his website (including @POC) only after the glaring omission
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:02 PM
Feb 2016

was noted in the press and he had a run in with BLM. He also changed the way he spoke about it on the stump in a major way.
Is that pandering? Would people be expected not to notice, if he never spoke about it at all?

I know "his thing" up in NH was to avoid "wedge" issues at all costs.
As a woman- I think that is pandering to conservatives- at my expense.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
19. Yes and no. Bernie was addressing BLM issued before NN16, but not with BLM phrases.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:43 PM
Feb 2016

This clip is from the Iowa Democratic Party Hall of Fame Dinner (July 17th) the night before BLM disrupted Bernie and MOM at Netroots Nation (July 18).



And like everybody in this room,
I want to see an America
where when young black men walk down the street
they will not be harassed by police officers.
They will not be killed.
They will not be shot.
(standing ovation)
To his credit, to his credit, to his credit,
President Obama did something extraordinary the other day.
He had the courage to go to a Federal jail
and talk about the absurdity of a criminal justice system
in which if we don't change it,
one in four male African Americans born today
will end up behind bars.
That is not the America we believe in.
And that is why, that is why, we believe,
that it makes more sense to invest in jobs and education,
not jails and incarceration.
(standing ovation)

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
20. but he did adjust his strategy, and promised to money bomb black communities and visit Rev Al now
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:51 PM
Feb 2016

that NH is over and SC is the prize. I would call it part of a "course correction" and not pandering. I'm not questioning his commitment, but the cynical part of me notices he waited until after Iowa and NH to make these moves.

That is what politicians do.

KentuckyWoman

(6,692 posts)
21. You might be right.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:37 AM
Feb 2016

For me, I don't decide politically "as a woman". In fact I'd go so far to say as soon as I think a politician is pandering to me "as a woman" I turn them off and move on. I expect to be treated with basic human dignity and I expect the candidate of choice to treat world citizens with the same dignity.

I am a supporter of MADRE going back to the early 90's. Neither Democratic candidate has a specific policy position stated on their website for any of the specific world issues MADRE is working on. Personally, I just think there are far too many world problems the chosen leader of the United States has a platform to address for me to get all hot and bothered because they do not have my particular activist group at the top of their list. It's enough for me to know that at least one of the candidates offered has an overall platform designed to get the US out of many of the war zones that are causing so much suffering to women and children. This same candidate has spent a lifetime trying to expand worker rights and reign in the abuses of corporate America. I have faith that when the time comes to petition this candidate while in the White House for a policy that addresses specifics in these area, this one will show up for the fight and ask us all to grab our boxing gloves as well.

Pie in the sky maybe..... but it's always been how I work and will continue to do so.



 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
22. Well there is too much of a RW war on women for me not to care about our civil rights. I know for
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:46 AM
Feb 2016

too many progressive men, it is an afterthought, and it sucks. I don't like it went they are too chickenshit to stick up for us.
Planned Parenthood - and most of my rights- would not exist if I heavily supported candidates who look at womens' reproductive rights as a "wedge" that is inconvenient. I am glad Bernie is speaking up more, but he had to be pushed to.

thesquanderer

(11,991 posts)
18. Nope, but the AA vote may not be the entire blowout some are expecting.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:24 PM
Feb 2016

There's also this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511149130

It's going to be a contest, I don't think anyone is going to be walking away with it.

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