2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThursday's Debate could be Bernie Sanders's last, best chance to appeal to black voters
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/11/thursdays-debate-could-be-bernie-sanderss-best-chance-to-appeal-to-black-voters/daleanime
(17,796 posts)to tell us that he failed. Have a lovely evening.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)You posted above at 9:36. No?
Perhaps your mind is made up?
Why pretend otherwise?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)pretending, there's only one thing, or person, that matters. For everything and everyone else, "there's a special place in hell".
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Same diff
KentuckyWoman
(6,692 posts)He share's President Obama's ideas that we are the United States of America not black/white/gay/straight/urban/rural etc.
So if you are looking for him to single out a specific group for special considerations you'll be disappointed.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,692 posts)Only an idiot would deny there are serious racial problems in this country.
The OP was expecting Bernie to appeal specifically to black voters. That's not his style. He's the type that stands for what he stands for because it's the right thing to do, not because he wants to gain favor with a specific subset of voters. I find no indication he's been willing to pander at any time in his life. I can't see him starting now.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)was noted in the press and he had a run in with BLM. He also changed the way he spoke about it on the stump in a major way.
Is that pandering? Would people be expected not to notice, if he never spoke about it at all?
I know "his thing" up in NH was to avoid "wedge" issues at all costs.
As a woman- I think that is pandering to conservatives- at my expense.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)This clip is from the Iowa Democratic Party Hall of Fame Dinner (July 17th) the night before BLM disrupted Bernie and MOM at Netroots Nation (July 18).
And like everybody in this room,
I want to see an America
where when young black men walk down the street
they will not be harassed by police officers.
They will not be killed.
They will not be shot.
(standing ovation)
To his credit, to his credit, to his credit,
President Obama did something extraordinary the other day.
He had the courage to go to a Federal jail
and talk about the absurdity of a criminal justice system
in which if we don't change it,
one in four male African Americans born today
will end up behind bars.
That is not the America we believe in.
And that is why, that is why, we believe,
that it makes more sense to invest in jobs and education,
not jails and incarceration.
(standing ovation)
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)that NH is over and SC is the prize. I would call it part of a "course correction" and not pandering. I'm not questioning his commitment, but the cynical part of me notices he waited until after Iowa and NH to make these moves.
That is what politicians do.
KentuckyWoman
(6,692 posts)For me, I don't decide politically "as a woman". In fact I'd go so far to say as soon as I think a politician is pandering to me "as a woman" I turn them off and move on. I expect to be treated with basic human dignity and I expect the candidate of choice to treat world citizens with the same dignity.
I am a supporter of MADRE going back to the early 90's. Neither Democratic candidate has a specific policy position stated on their website for any of the specific world issues MADRE is working on. Personally, I just think there are far too many world problems the chosen leader of the United States has a platform to address for me to get all hot and bothered because they do not have my particular activist group at the top of their list. It's enough for me to know that at least one of the candidates offered has an overall platform designed to get the US out of many of the war zones that are causing so much suffering to women and children. This same candidate has spent a lifetime trying to expand worker rights and reign in the abuses of corporate America. I have faith that when the time comes to petition this candidate while in the White House for a policy that addresses specifics in these area, this one will show up for the fight and ask us all to grab our boxing gloves as well.
Pie in the sky maybe..... but it's always been how I work and will continue to do so.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)too many progressive men, it is an afterthought, and it sucks. I don't like it went they are too chickenshit to stick up for us.
Planned Parenthood - and most of my rights- would not exist if I heavily supported candidates who look at womens' reproductive rights as a "wedge" that is inconvenient. I am glad Bernie is speaking up more, but he had to be pushed to.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And there it goes...
bravenak
(34,648 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)All of the state will go bernie
thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)There's also this...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511149130
It's going to be a contest, I don't think anyone is going to be walking away with it.