2016 Postmortem

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts) Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:07 PM Feb 2016

The title of this article by CNN is Clinton's 'me' versus Sanders' 'us' but

the video on the link is totally at odds with the story, it depicts Hillary "moving" to the left again in agreement with Bernie in order to obfuscate the differences between the candidates.

The written text is enlightening as to the candidates' actual perception.

That's the conclusion reached when we analyzed the content of the speeches given by Vermont Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton after their finishes in New Hampshire Tuesday night.

Clinton may be one of the most experienced presidential candidates in recent history, and yet a pitch based on that might be a drawback on a campaign. She used the pronouns "I" or "me" in that speech 44 times. She used the words "we" or "us" less than half that amount -- 21 times.

For Sanders, it was the exact opposite. Sanders used the words "I" or "me" 26 times. "We" or "us" was used more than twice as much -- 54 times.

Sanders' experience is about them. What they all can do together.

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/12/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-pronouns/index.html

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The title of this article by CNN is Clinton's 'me' versus Sanders' 'us' but (Original Post) Uncle Joe Feb 2016 OP

A critical and telling difference cali Feb 2016 #1

I agree. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #3

Thems that have to think so much to justify their positions tend to get confused. highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #2

Just consistently speaking the truth does make that process easier. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #6

Bernie never has to remember who he's supposed to be hifiguy Feb 2016 #10

CNN had Van Jones on and he spoke about this just after Clinton gave her concession speech Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #4

I like Van Jones, he's a sharp advocate. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #7

Back at ya. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #8

and then they interview an adviser who calls it "sexist" to criticize poor Hillary magical thyme Feb 2016 #5

Good stuff. frylock Feb 2016 #11

Little things tell a lot. hifiguy Feb 2016 #9

CNN didn't even need to point this out. JimDandy Feb 2016 #12

I agree, JimDandy but it's nice that they did. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #15

It's not just the constant 'I'. s-cubed Feb 2016 #13

She has the humility of Napoleon hifiguy Feb 2016 #14

We Us Together - Vs - Me MyBank And I cantbeserious Feb 2016 #16

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #17

Thank you, Enthusiast. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #18

cali

(114,904 posts)

1. A critical and telling difference

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:09 PM

Feb 2016

k&r

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)

3. I agree.

Reply to cali (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:24 PM

Feb 2016

Peace to you, cali.

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)

2. Thems that have to think so much to justify their positions tend to get confused.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:11 PM

Feb 2016

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)

6. Just consistently speaking the truth does make that process easier.

Reply to highprincipleswork (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:42 PM

Feb 2016

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)

10. Bernie never has to remember who he's supposed to be

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:49 PM

Feb 2016

in front of any given audience. Bernie's Bernie no matter where he is or who he's talking to.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)

4. CNN had Van Jones on and he spoke about this just after Clinton gave her concession speech

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:31 PM

Feb 2016

and before Bernie's victory speech..listen he said, you're going to hear WE, US not I
from Bernie.

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)

7. I like Van Jones, he's a sharp advocate.

Reply to Jefferson23 (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:43 PM

Feb 2016

Peace to you, Jefferson.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)

8. Back at ya.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:46 PM

Feb 2016

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)

5. and then they interview an adviser who calls it "sexist" to criticize poor Hillary

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:36 PM

Feb 2016

for going on about herself.

frylock

(34,825 posts)

11. Good stuff.

Reply to magical thyme (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:19 PM

Feb 2016

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)

9. Little things tell a lot.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:48 PM

Feb 2016

I wonder how HRH's "I" count compares to Il Douche's?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)

12. CNN didn't even need to point this out.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:37 PM

Feb 2016

It's been felt/known by his supporters since he started campaigning.

That's the difference between genuine and weathevaning... intuitively knowing when someone is on your side without having to minutely study and take apart what they are saying